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Post by Captain Charisma on Mar 18, 2015 1:45:56 GMT -5
Agree with Bret.
Still baffled by the Hogan decision to induct Savage. I guess it's to please the Mega Powers fans..
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2015 6:25:18 GMT -5
First Triple H, now Bret Hart is trolling the IWC...I love it! I'm not sure where the trolling is? Is that cause he thinks Roman is talented and ready? Even though he also supports Bryan (who is an "internet darling")? Did you feel trolled, being part of the IWC? Thanks for posting this @monoxide23 Curious for @cabbageconkers's thoughts. I don't have to agree with Bret on everything . I think considering how starved they are for stars, it's absolutely Roman's time. D-Bry should absolutely be back in the main event scene following WM. I agree with him about Hogan though.
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Post by Yambag Jones on Mar 18, 2015 7:40:47 GMT -5
First Triple H, now Bret Hart is trolling the IWC...I love it! I'm not sure where the trolling is? Is that cause he thinks Roman is talented and ready? Even though he also supports Bryan (who is an "internet darling")? Did you feel trolled, being part of the IWC? Thanks for posting this @monoxide23 Curious for @cabbageconkers's thoughts. I was joking. I actually think the ceiling for Reigns is high, but the majority of "smart" fans tend to disagree.
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Post by punksnotdead on Mar 18, 2015 10:08:37 GMT -5
I'm not sure where the trolling is? Is that cause he thinks Roman is talented and ready? Even though he also supports Bryan (who is an "internet darling")? Did you feel trolled, being part of the IWC? Thanks for posting this @monoxide23 Curious for @cabbageconkers's thoughts. I was joking. I actually think the ceiling for Reigns is high, but the majority of "smart" fans tend to disagree. I don't know, I think most people agree that if you remove Reigns from the situation that his ceiling is high. I think it's Batista high though, not Cena high. That hasn't stopped me from having a straight " Roman Reigns" mentality right now. His "potential" skill set is completely secondary to how he is being booked. That's what people are angry about. This is a Cena-Lite situation, only Reigns isn't anywhere near Cena was at this point in his career from a popularity standpoint.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2015 10:12:13 GMT -5
I'm not sure where the trolling is? Is that cause he thinks Roman is talented and ready? Even though he also supports Bryan (who is an "internet darling")? Did you feel trolled, being part of the IWC? Thanks for posting this @monoxide23 Curious for @cabbageconkers's thoughts. I was joking. I actually think the ceiling for Reigns is high, but the majority of "smart" fans tend to disagree. Explain what the difference between your opinion and a supposed smarks is.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2015 10:20:07 GMT -5
He also needs to understand that Daniel Bryan also came back from a very serious neck injury and SHOULD NOT be in the main event this year just because of health issues alone.He needs more time to be 100% healthy which is why I'm fine with reigns getting this opportunity.Yeah I know he's in a ladder match but atleast its multi man ladder match where he doesn't have to do that much work.Im just looking out for the mans health and him working with lesnar could be a bad idea.
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Post by June on Mar 18, 2015 10:25:34 GMT -5
Never have fans wanted Bret pushed over another competitor outside of that fateful night in Montreal.
Bret is stroking his ego big time and using revisionist history.
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Post by The Yes Man on Mar 18, 2015 10:56:53 GMT -5
He also needs to understand that Daniel Bryan also came back from a very serious neck injury and SHOULD NOT be in the main event this year just because of health issues alone.He needs more time to be 100% healthy which is why I'm fine with reigns getting this opportunity.Yeah I know he's in a ladder match but atleast its multi man ladder match where he doesn't have to do that much work.Im just looking out for the mans health and him working with lesnar could be a bad idea. Bryan wouldn't be back if he wasn't 100%. A ladder match is way more dangerous than a Brock Lesnar match. Taker only got hurt last year because he bumped his head, not because Brock is careless and dangerous.
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Post by The Yes Man on Mar 18, 2015 10:57:17 GMT -5
Never have fans wanted Bret pushed over another competitor outside of that fateful night in Montreal. Bret is stroking his ego big time and using revisionist history. Extremely false.
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Post by Yambag Jones on Mar 18, 2015 12:06:10 GMT -5
I was joking. I actually think the ceiling for Reigns is high, but the majority of "smart" fans tend to disagree. Explain what the difference between your opinion and a supposed smarks is. I see "smarks" as outspoken and disruptive fans who b*tch and moan no matter what and won't give WWE a chance to tell the story it wants to tell. I'm willing to give WWE the benefit of the doubt with their story telling and I only pay attention to the story lines that I enjoy.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2015 12:15:45 GMT -5
Sorry t disagree Bret but Hogan should absolutely induct Savage.
The most commercially & creatively successful period of Savages career was associated with Hogan. 1988-late 1989 was the pinnacle of Machos career and its Hogan heavy. BOTH men fed off each other during this time and it led to absolutely compelling viewing.
The Mega powers and subsequent split was unquestionably the greatest angle Savage was ever part of.....and ity isn't even close. If it wasn't for the 96 heel turn/ nWo and the effect it had on the business? it would be Hogan's too.
He is without a doubt the guy that should induct him.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2015 13:49:45 GMT -5
He also needs to understand that Daniel Bryan also came back from a very serious neck injury and SHOULD NOT be in the main event this year just because of health issues alone.He needs more time to be 100% healthy which is why I'm fine with reigns getting this opportunity.Yeah I know he's in a ladder match but atleast its multi man ladder match where he doesn't have to do that much work.Im just looking out for the mans health and him working with lesnar could be a bad idea. With that logic, Stone Cold should have never main evented Wrestlemania 17.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2015 16:10:31 GMT -5
He also needs to understand that Daniel Bryan also came back from a very serious neck injury and SHOULD NOT be in the main event this year just because of health issues alone.He needs more time to be 100% healthy which is why I'm fine with reigns getting this opportunity.Yeah I know he's in a ladder match but atleast its multi man ladder match where he doesn't have to do that much work.Im just looking out for the mans health and him working with lesnar could be a bad idea. With that logic, Stone Cold should have never main evented Wrestlemania 17. Not too familiar with that so I can really comment on that.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2015 16:16:55 GMT -5
With that logic, Stone Cold should have never main evented Wrestlemania 17. Not too familiar with that so I can really comment on that. Austin got dropped on his head in 1997 and put off getting surgery until 1999. His injury and surgery was MUCH more severe than Daniel Bryan. However, he returned in late-2000, won the 2001 Royal Rumble and went on to main event Wrestlemania 17 because he was STILL the most popular guy on the roster...just like Daniel Bryan is today. Austin did not return from neck surgery to face William Regal for the IC title or Test for the European title when he returned. I'm not saying Daniel Bryan is exactly like Austin because he isn't (who is). However, Austin and Bryan are comparable as the most popular guys on the roster during their respective times. Austin was not replaced with Rikishi or Haku when he returned. He got injured the most popular guy on the roster, returned as the most popular guy on the roster and got treated as such.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2015 16:53:23 GMT -5
Not too familiar with that so I can really comment on that. Austin got dropped on his head in 1997 and put off getting surgery until 1999. His injury and surgery was MUCH more severe than Daniel Bryan. However, he returned in late-2000, won the 2001 Royal Rumble and went on to main event Wrestlemania 17 because he was STILL the most popular guy on the roster...just like Daniel Bryan is today. Austin did not return from neck surgery to face William Regal for the IC title or Test for the European title when he returned. I'm not saying Daniel Bryan is exactly like Austin because he isn't (who is). However, Austin and Bryan are comparable as the most popular guys on the roster during their respective times. Austin was not replaced with Rikishi or Haku when he returned. He got injured the most popular guy on the roster, returned as the most popular guy on the roster and got treated as such. But the thing is What if roman getting the big pushed was already planned out months ago.And when Daniel bryan got injured maybe even they knew they didn't know when he was coming back.And if Austin had a much worse injury then bryan then maybe he shouldn't have main evented WM either but that was then maybe WWE learned there mistake and don't want to rush anything.
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Post by June on Mar 19, 2015 7:47:36 GMT -5
Daniel Bryan does nothing to capture the attention of the casual fan, much like Bret was never able to, which is why Vince was always looking to put someone else ahead of Bret in the title picture.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Mar 19, 2015 8:25:32 GMT -5
Daniel Bryan does nothing to capture the attention of the casual fan, much like Bret was never able to, which is why Vince was always looking to put someone else ahead of Bret in the title picture. I don't know if I've ever seen someone more wrong so consistently. The casual fan, hell, a VAST majority of the fans in general love Daniel Bryan.
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Post by June on Mar 19, 2015 8:47:11 GMT -5
Aside from a chant, does he move the chain to the point where WWE feels he should be the man? No he does not.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2015 10:38:01 GMT -5
My gf is a "casual fan" and can easily tell you much more about Daniel Bryan than Roman Reigns...and she doesn't even know his name.
She calls him "Yes Man" or "Beard Man" half the time. However, she still knows who he is compared to Reigns.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2015 10:39:58 GMT -5
Austin got dropped on his head in 1997 and put off getting surgery until 1999. His injury and surgery was MUCH more severe than Daniel Bryan. However, he returned in late-2000, won the 2001 Royal Rumble and went on to main event Wrestlemania 17 because he was STILL the most popular guy on the roster...just like Daniel Bryan is today. Austin did not return from neck surgery to face William Regal for the IC title or Test for the European title when he returned. I'm not saying Daniel Bryan is exactly like Austin because he isn't (who is). However, Austin and Bryan are comparable as the most popular guys on the roster during their respective times. Austin was not replaced with Rikishi or Haku when he returned. He got injured the most popular guy on the roster, returned as the most popular guy on the roster and got treated as such. But the thing is What if roman getting the big pushed was already planned out months ago.And when Daniel bryan got injured maybe even they knew they didn't know when he was coming back.And if Austin had a much worse injury then bryan then maybe he shouldn't have main evented WM either but that was then maybe WWE learned there mistake and don't want to rush anything. I understand what you're trying to say but if Bryan is back then...he back. He's not working at 60-70%. He's working at 100%. Nothing about his in-ring style has changed. Hell, even Austin had to stop taking piledrivers and Powerbombs after his injury. If Bryan is back then that means he's healthy enough to go.
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