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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2015 7:59:35 GMT -5
In WWE's current product, do you have any trends that you would like to see stop, or features you would like to see return?
For example, some of mine:
- When there is an in ring promo, I much preferred when the superstar would walk around the ring naturally when talking. These days, they have to stand facing the hard camera for the most part. No biggie, but I preferred the more natural interaction with the crowd. It reminds me they are camera-conscious.
- Street gear. It kinda bugs me that mostly, the superstars are ALWAYS conveniently in their ring gear. Again, because it would be more natural, I liked it when occasionally backstage or during a run in a superstar would be in their regular clothes. It adds to the believable element for me.
- Play-by-play commentary. It used to be more common place. I know this one is an obvious one. It adds to the competitiveness, adding to the realism.
There's plenty more obvious things that get complained about daily, but do you have any other features you'd like to see return, or go away?
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Post by Rated [R] NinJa on Mar 27, 2015 8:28:15 GMT -5
100% agree about the in ring promos.
I wish the commentators would stop referring to John Cena's WrestleMania matches as 'the biggest match of his career'. I swear it happens EVERY year! The only match in recent WrestleMania history that may have been his biggest match would probably have to be WM29 because of the whole 'road to redemption' storyline, but last year there was no need to refer to him having to win for his legacy or this year to beat Rusev for America as the biggest match of his career.
I would like to see the desire promos make a comeback too, those were great around 2001-2004.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2015 8:32:13 GMT -5
That's true, that's another one that REALLY bugs me - the way they hype everything as the 'biggest main event' or whatever...EVERY single time.
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Post by T R W on Mar 27, 2015 8:38:19 GMT -5
Stop giving away matches on tv that should be saved for PPV More promos done backstage with interviewers Do away with "evil figureheads, GMs" for a long while Stop calling women Divas Stop calling them sports entertainers on tv, and refer to them as pro wrestlers. Have commentators call the matches like it is an actual sport.
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Post by June on Mar 27, 2015 8:46:23 GMT -5
A play by play man that actually calls the action instead of constantly pimping the network and mobile ap.
A color commentator that actually adds colorful analysis and insights into the match.
Titles seriously being sought after.
The wrestlers playing to the crowd, baby faces trying to rile them up, heels working them.
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Post by The Future on Mar 27, 2015 8:57:13 GMT -5
I want them to start doing the 'sleeper hold' hand raise thing. That was always so dramatic.
Tag teams being given mic time. It took like 9 weeks to let Cesaro and Kidd cut a promo, and when they finally did, it was magic. The Usos, PTP, New Day never really speak about anything, they just repeat catch phrases. The Ascension are dead because of their horrible vignettes, but if anyone let them write their own material (or not rip off LOD) it would have given them a shot. The early 90's saw tag teams stick together, or added drama to a break-up (and usually a huge push). Now they just dissolve with really no blow-off. During the attitude era, E&C, the Dudleyz, NAO, hell even the Hardyz were given a chance to showcase their personalities. This is the thing that makes me afraid for NXT teams like The Vaudevillains or Enzo & Cass getting the call.
What I wish they'd get rid of is the overload of recaps. They literally show things that just happened 3 minutes ago. We live in a DVR age. Anyone who misses something can access it online or hit rewind. Please stop. And as stated, the endless pimping of the WWE App, Network and corporate agenda.
I watch alot of Smackdowns on the Network, and Michael Cole was actually pretty decent early in his career. I don't know if he's devolved, or Vinnie has just gotten louder in his ear over the years.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Mar 27, 2015 9:41:09 GMT -5
Make commentary worthy again. Have them focus on the show and the match rather than being annoying and promoting trends.
Go back to booking things that make sense. One of the reasons I enjoy NXT so much is that the booking is logical.
Don't give up on feuds halfway through and drop them for no reason. I'm looking at you Brie/Nikkie, Stardust/Goldust and ESPECIALLY Rollins/Ambrose.
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Post by Grumpyoldman on Mar 27, 2015 10:10:10 GMT -5
Get rid of the soap opera story lines. Put a stop to the nickname "Mr. Money In the Bank". It's f*cking stupid. Less backstage nonsense. Longer matches. I don't care what the demographic is, get rid of the kid friendly stuff. Have feuds that last more than 2 months. Bring back the blood. I'm probably alone on this one. But not everyone needs theme music, a catch phrase or a certain move used in every match. Get rid of the Diva's title. Call it the Women's Championship and make a new belt design. Have only 5 pay-per views a year. Wrestlemania, Summer Slam, The Great American Bash, The Clash of Champions & Starrcade. Add the Cruiserweight Title, along with the Television Title & US Tag Team Titles. Hire people who actually know how to book a solid angle.
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Post by Kyle - legendkilla2k9 on Mar 27, 2015 10:19:32 GMT -5
We need good backstage segments on PPVs to hype matches, especially at the Royal Rumble.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2015 10:20:31 GMT -5
When I was a kid there was a little show called "Superstars". On this show you'd see these pre-recorded segments where Mean Gene would apparently catch up with a wrestler outside the ring. For example, Macho might be poolside at his mansion or the Bushwackers might be in the brush somewhere. These segments gave the wrestlers a chance to get themselves over as characters. It made it all seem real to me (of course wrestling was real back them), and it made the Superstars seem larger than life.
They should bring that back.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2015 10:33:12 GMT -5
No more word-for-word scripted promos.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2015 10:35:51 GMT -5
- Stop do a running dive through or over the ropes into a crowd. - Stop the "shakey" cam or the bobbing with the 10 count cam. - Stop having those in upcoming Main Events in a PPV to be placed in a multi-man tag match. - Stop forcing Roman Reigns on us. - Stop supplying Roman Reigns with those douchey contacts. - Stop having Roman Reigns come through the crowd. - Stop having Roman Reigns take one step up the steel steps, and turn to give us a silent intimidating stare. - Stop having wrestlers come to the ring in their current t-shirt. Its also hard to suspend disbelief when someone like Ryback comes out in a pink Ryback Rulez t-shirt during breast cancer awareness month. - Stop quickly breaking up good tag teams in hopes of recapturing what Shawn Michaels did over 20 years ago. - Stop putting The Miz in movies and giving him opportunities. - Have the Heavyweight, Intercontintal, Tag, & Womens be your only titles. - Get rid of that gaudy butterfly "Divas" title. - Get rid of Eva Marie. - Get rid of Michael Cole. - Get rid of The Miz. - Get rid of Big Show. - Get rid of the Stardust gimmick. - Retire Jerry Lawler from commentary. - Get a decent Face/Heel commentary team (JBL you really, really suck.) - Bring back commentary on the matches. I don't need My-gul Cole telling me what's trending on Twitter, sell the matches. - Bring back decent Managers and stop having two managers run stables of half the locker room. - Bring back the tag team division. - Have a decent stable that isn't named "The Authority." - Bring back classic 4x4 Survivor Series cards, not just one "theme" match. - Bring back two minutes between entries in the Royal Rumble. - Get rid of the "Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal." You killed it after you destroyed the trophy and stopped Cesaro's momentum, its hack now, and too soon after the Royal Rumble.
There's more...
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Post by K5 on Mar 27, 2015 11:41:39 GMT -5
i wouldn't have so many microphone face offs from the stage to the ring. those seemed to have gotten popular in the late 90s and stuck. make the ring/stage for wrestling and use the backstage interview area for face offs etc.
i'd have more side screen promos, like during matches. they were still prevalent in 1997 but seemed to have disappeared except for royal rumble season.
i'd give the intercontinental title and the heavyweight title the largest focus - like old snme, i'd have mini feuds built around each title to sell each week's main event by episode.
i'd have more managers ( ^ saw heroes and martyrs suggest that, and i have to agree)
i'd repackage most of the music themes to more catchy, memorable music than the mix of heavy rock/dance pop rap we get.
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Post by Himmy! on Mar 27, 2015 11:59:14 GMT -5
Totally agree about the street gear thing.
Also, giving away PPV matches on TV. Nothing feels special anymore.
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Post by PhoeniX™: Valoween on Mar 27, 2015 13:11:50 GMT -5
- Stop do a running dive through or over the ropes into a crowd. - Stop the "shakey" cam or the bobbing with the 10 count cam. - Stop having those in upcoming Main Events in a PPV to be placed in a multi-man tag match. - Stop forcing Roman Reigns on us. - Stop supplying Roman Reigns with those douchey contacts. - Stop having Roman Reigns come through the crowd. - Stop having Roman Reigns take one step up the steel steps, and turn to give us a silent intimidating stare. - Stop having wrestlers come to the ring in their current t-shirt. Its also hard to suspend disbelief when someone like Ryback comes out in a pink Ryback Rulez t-shirt during breast cancer awareness month. - Stop quickly breaking up good tag teams in hopes of recapturing what Shawn Michaels did over 20 years ago. - Stop putting The Miz in movies and giving him opportunities. - Have the Heavyweight, Intercontintal, Tag, & Womens be your only titles. - Get rid of that gaudy butterfly "Divas" title. - Get rid of Eva Marie. - Get rid of Michael Cole. - Get rid of The Miz. - Get rid of Big Show. - Get rid of the Stardust gimmick. - Retire Jerry Lawler from commentary. - Get a decent Face/Heel commentary team (JBL you really, really suck.) - Bring back commentary on the matches. I don't need My-gul Cole telling me what's trending on Twitter, sell the matches. - Bring back decent Managers and stop having two managers run stables of half the locker room. - Bring back the tag team division. - Have a decent stable that isn't named "The Authority." - Bring back classic 4x4 Survivor Series cards, not just one "theme" match. - Bring back two minutes between entries in the Royal Rumble. - Get rid of the "Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal." You killed it after you destroyed the trophy and stopped Cesaro's momentum, its hack now, and too soon after the Royal Rumble. There's more... So, basically you don't like anything about the WWE at all.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2015 13:19:57 GMT -5
- Stop do a running dive through or over the ropes into a crowd. - Stop the "shakey" cam or the bobbing with the 10 count cam. - Stop having those in upcoming Main Events in a PPV to be placed in a multi-man tag match. - Stop forcing Roman Reigns on us. - Stop supplying Roman Reigns with those douchey contacts. - Stop having Roman Reigns come through the crowd. - Stop having Roman Reigns take one step up the steel steps, and turn to give us a silent intimidating stare. - Stop having wrestlers come to the ring in their current t-shirt. Its also hard to suspend disbelief when someone like Ryback comes out in a pink Ryback Rulez t-shirt during breast cancer awareness month. - Stop quickly breaking up good tag teams in hopes of recapturing what Shawn Michaels did over 20 years ago. - Stop putting The Miz in movies and giving him opportunities. - Have the Heavyweight, Intercontintal, Tag, & Womens be your only titles. - Get rid of that gaudy butterfly "Divas" title. - Get rid of Eva Marie. - Get rid of Michael Cole. - Get rid of The Miz. - Get rid of Big Show. - Get rid of the Stardust gimmick. - Retire Jerry Lawler from commentary. - Get a decent Face/Heel commentary team (JBL you really, really suck.) - Bring back commentary on the matches. I don't need My-gul Cole telling me what's trending on Twitter, sell the matches. - Bring back decent Managers and stop having two managers run stables of half the locker room. - Bring back the tag team division. - Have a decent stable that isn't named "The Authority." - Bring back classic 4x4 Survivor Series cards, not just one "theme" match. - Bring back two minutes between entries in the Royal Rumble. - Get rid of the "Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal." You killed it after you destroyed the trophy and stopped Cesaro's momentum, its hack now, and too soon after the Royal Rumble. There's more... So, basically you don't like anything about the WWE at all. Nope, nothing.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2015 15:06:14 GMT -5
Get rid of the soap opera story lines. Put a stop to the nickname "Mr. Money In the Bank". It's f*cking stupid. Less backstage nonsense. Longer matches. I don't care what the demographic is, get rid of the kid friendly stuff. Have feuds that last more than 2 months. Bring back the blood. I'm probably alone on this one. But not everyone needs theme music, a catch phrase or a certain move used in every match. Get rid of the Diva's title. Call it the Women's Championship and make a new belt design. Have only 5 pay-per views a year. Wrestlemania, Summer Slam, The Great American Bash, The Clash of Champions & Starrcade. Add the Cruiserweight Title, along with the Television Title & US Tag Team Titles. Hire people who actually know how to book a solid angle. I think wwe needs a pay per view every month so people would feel as they need to renew.
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Post by Mark Martin on Mar 27, 2015 15:14:13 GMT -5
I like the street clothes idea. And it would be nice to not have whoever the U.S. or I.C. champ is lose non-title match after non-title match on TV. Bring Raw back to 2 hours. Have 6 PPV's a year every other month and during the months there isn't a PPV have 1 and only 1 WWE Saturday Night's Main Event that month that can act like a sort of B+ PPV with big matches and potential title changes.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2015 15:32:05 GMT -5
I agree with the street gear.
Stop giving away PPV matches on free TV, the Monday Night Wars are over.
A fair, impartial authority figure.
More character development.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2015 15:57:13 GMT -5
I also agree about headline matches on free TV. It baffled me this (or last) week when /kayfabe/ Orton was about to face Rollins in the main event. It fails to make any sense to me. I tune in and pay for matches that are hyped and fresh, or final battles. Not..just...another match.
2 hour Raw's I wouldn't be against either. I like it being 3, but I'd prefer it to be 2 interesting hours than the same thing dragged out over 3.
I'd also like to see different scenarios back stage a bit more. I know they do use the car parks, but years ago there would be a lot more variation in where segments took place.
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