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Post by @Sweetbob on Apr 14, 2015 16:28:28 GMT -5
Since the IWC (and many other fans) seem to know who will win the Royal Rumble months before it happens, due to the winner facing the the WWE Champ at Wrestlemania, I have a possible fix that I'd like to get your opinion on.
Clearly, the 'winner of the Royal Rumble goes onto Wrestlemania' concept seems to be a bit tiresome due to Batista & Roman Reigns getting more heat than WWE expected. I propose the winner of the Royal Rumble getting the final spot in a 'tag team turmoil'-like singles match at the following pay-per-view. It would be like the Elimination Chamber, but there would only be two wrestlers in the ring at any time. You get pinned and the next guy comes out. Have like six guys in the match and the RR winner could come out last.
I love the Elimination Chamber, but since new arenas and their fancy new scoreboards aren't allowing the structure to be hung above the ring, this is a way to kind of get that match w/o the actual chamber.
I feel like it would give a little more suspense about who will win the Rumble...and possibly give a push to a younger guy w/o guaranteeing them a Main Event spot at WM.
Thoughts?
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Post by Planktung on Apr 14, 2015 16:29:26 GMT -5
Or just have the right person win the Royal Rumble.
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Post by @Sweetbob on Apr 14, 2015 16:30:05 GMT -5
Or just have the right person win the Royal Rumble. Yeah, but Daniel Bryan can't win it every year jk
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Apr 14, 2015 16:32:23 GMT -5
I still say that if Roman Reigns didn't win Superstar of the Year, and get forced down our throats a month prior to the Royal Rumble, and instead was kept off TV and came BACK at the Royal Rumble as a surprise entrant, the fans would go nuts for it.
For example, John Cena at the 2008 Royal Rumble in MSG for that matter. New Yorkers are vocal, and not really a fan of Cena, yet every fan cheered when his music hit cause it was a surprise. If they did that this year with Roman Reigns, then he would have been cheered to victory.
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Post by BrIaNMeRcY on Apr 14, 2015 17:11:00 GMT -5
I still say that if Roman Reigns didn't win Superstar of the Year, and get forced down our throats a month prior to the Royal Rumble, and instead was kept off TV and came BACK at the Royal Rumble as a surprise entrant, the fans would go nuts for it. For example, John Cena at the 2008 Royal Rumble in MSG for that matter. New Yorkers are vocal, and not really a fan of Cena, yet every fan cheered when his music hit cause it was a surprise. If they did that this year with Roman Reigns, then he would have been cheered to victory. All of this. One thing that the WWE should have done was Daniel Bryan coming back after the Royal Rumble. Shoving people down the throats of your fans is never a good thing. John Cena returning at the 2008 Royal Rumble is one of the most shocking moments in the last decade. The fans ate that **** up and was genuinely shocked.
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Post by Mark Martin on Apr 14, 2015 18:15:17 GMT -5
I'd rather see them bring back the Battle Bowl format that WCW had back in the day. Randomly paired tag teams fight randomly paired tag teams and the 2 wrestlers on the winning teams of those matches go into a battle royal (or royal rumble). Though the winner of the Battle Bowl I believe just got a ring for winning it.
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Post by King Silva on Apr 14, 2015 18:17:38 GMT -5
I don't like this idea to be honest.
I think they should just pick better people to win.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2015 18:39:37 GMT -5
The winner of the Royal Rumble didn't always wrestle for the title at Mania.
I think the problem is that when this stipulation was first implemented it was more organic.
Now, it's become so predictable it's frustrating. It's like we get it, so and so is going to win, but you know what? I don't want that to happen, so now I'm upset.
I say the winner of the Royal Rumble is just that: the winner of the Royal Rumble.
Maybe they don't automatically wrestle for the strap at Mania. As a matter of fact, that's exactly how I'd write that stipulation away. I'd have next year's winner demand some other match. Like maybe they've been trying to get their hands on so and so, so they parlay their Rumble win into a match with that person who keeps ducking them.
Then, after that, the Rumble win morphs into a really big win for someone, but maybe not always a garunteed shot at the main event at Wrestlemania.
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Apr 14, 2015 18:45:01 GMT -5
I still say that if Roman Reigns didn't win Superstar of the Year, and get forced down our throats a month prior to the Royal Rumble, and instead was kept off TV and came BACK at the Royal Rumble as a surprise entrant, the fans would go nuts for it.
For example, John Cena at the 2008 Royal Rumble in MSG for that matter. New Yorkers are vocal, and not really a fan of Cena, yet every fan cheered when his music hit cause it was a surprise. If they did that this year with Roman Reigns, then he would have been cheered to victory. He was still due back around that time and fans could've still guessed that he would enter and win. Cena's return was totally unexpected and was the last person you would've thought would win.
I believe if Daniel Bryan didn't return until after the Rumble Roman Reigns would've received a different reaction. He was getting cheered right up until then. Once Bryan was eliminated everyone turned against Reigns because they believed Bryan was being sacrificed for him.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2015 18:54:51 GMT -5
I still say that if Roman Reigns didn't win Superstar of the Year, and get forced down our throats a month prior to the Royal Rumble, and instead was kept off TV and came BACK at the Royal Rumble as a surprise entrant, the fans would go nuts for it.
For example, John Cena at the 2008 Royal Rumble in MSG for that matter. New Yorkers are vocal, and not really a fan of Cena, yet every fan cheered when his music hit cause it was a surprise. If they did that this year with Roman Reigns, then he would have been cheered to victory. He was still due back around that time and fans could've still guessed that he would enter and win. Cena's return was totally unexpected and was the last person you would've thought would win.
I believe if Daniel Bryan didn't return until after the Rumble Roman Reigns would've received a different reaction. He was getting cheered right up until then. Once Bryan was eliminated everyone turned against Reigns because they believed Bryan was being sacrificed for him.
I agree to an extent. Personally, I noticed some deficiencies in Reigns shortly after the Shield broke up but before it was clear he was the heir apparent. When he got hurt I thought it was s blessing in disguise from this fan's perspective because Ambrose was more over with me. In your scenario, yes it may have been better overall if they waited on Bryan, but I still would have been upset with a Reigns victory. Ambrose should have won damn it!!!
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Post by Joe/Smurf on Apr 14, 2015 19:45:50 GMT -5
Or just have the right person win the Royal Rumble. Yeah, but Daniel Bryan can't win it every year jk The fans would have been fine with any number of winners this past year (not so much in 2013)... Just don't spoon feed the most obvious crap and they won't rebel.
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Post by ellisd on Apr 14, 2015 20:00:16 GMT -5
I say just put Daniel Bryan in the title match every year at The Royal Rumble. That's probably the only way to keep everyone from boooing the Rumble winner each year.
I'm just joking....kinda.
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Post by ICW on Apr 14, 2015 20:16:18 GMT -5
They just need to stop forcing wrestlers we don't want to see main event Wrestle-freaking-Mania down our throats like they've done the past couple of years. Listen to who the fans want, have said wrestler win the Rumble...what a novel concept.
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Post by jakksking1 on Apr 14, 2015 22:28:25 GMT -5
Just book the match better. It doesn't take rocket science to figure out who is over and who wont be. This years Rumble was a complete mess. Having Bryan come back to get shoulder blocked out of the ring by Bray Wyatt is one of the bigger let downs in recent memory. The entire match was disjointed and had no flow. If you want to portray your baby face as a hero, have him (sorry Cena haters) over come the odds. Not chill in the corner and have the Rock come out to help him win the Rumble.
Hell, they probably should have pulled a page out of last years book. Grab some old wrestler no one wants to see in the main event at Mania, shove him down our throats, leak him winning the RR, then have Roman win in a surprise.
I actually think part of the problem is they dont use smarks like us to their advantage. If they started heavily leaking fake spoilers and plans in a convincing way to the IWC, I think it would be awesome.
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Post by theMOESIAH on Apr 14, 2015 22:47:33 GMT -5
I'd rather see them bring back the Battle Bowl format that WCW had back in the day. Randomly paired tag teams fight randomly paired tag teams and the 2 wrestlers on the winning teams of those matches go into a battle royal (or royal rumble). Though the winner of the Battle Bowl I believe just got a ring for winning it. I would mark the out. But it would have to be the double ring battle royal*. I don't see Vince doing anything with two rings though. They need as many people in the audience as possible. *For those unaware, everyone everyone start in one ring and would only get "eliminated" by being tossed into ring two. The winner of that battle royal would get to rest as a new, traditional battle royal started in ring two until one guy was left. Then the two winners would fight until one of them was eliminated. An odd idea? Yes. Convoluted? Yes. Unnecessarily complicated? Yes. Awesome? Absolutely.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2015 12:33:25 GMT -5
I still say that if Roman Reigns didn't win Superstar of the Year, and get forced down our throats a month prior to the Royal Rumble, and instead was kept off TV and came BACK at the Royal Rumble as a surprise entrant, the fans would go nuts for it. For example, John Cena at the 2008 Royal Rumble in MSG for that matter. New Yorkers are vocal, and not really a fan of Cena, yet every fan cheered when his music hit cause it was a surprise. If they did that this year with Roman Reigns, then he would have been cheered to victory. This is it in a nutshell really......DB also should NOT have returned before the RR.
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Post by BrIaNMeRcY on Apr 15, 2015 14:26:45 GMT -5
It is really irking me when fans chants and crave for Daniel Bryan to be positioned as their world champion. Bryan isn't giving what the WWE needs. The WWE wants a guy who isn't injury prone and is consistent. This is why it was a very smart move to have Seth Rollins cash in this briefcase at WrestleMania. It did the WWE two favors in one. Getting the strap (a dirty word to the WWE) off of Brock Lesnar and holding off Roman Reigns' first world championship. A very genius move to say the least.
People should come to grips that eventually Reigns is going to become the WWE Champion. With the recent health issues Daniel Bryan is having, it is a no-brainer why the WWE doesn't want to risk having Bryan as their world champion. The proverbial machine prefers consistent guys on top. Bryan can't match what the machine wants.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Apr 15, 2015 14:53:38 GMT -5
The Rumble as a qualifier for a qualifier would be terrible. WWE is in a tough spot building top babyfaces because of The Authority storyline spending the last two years encouraging the worst kind of fans at the TV tapings, but they shouldn't diminish the Rumble over it.
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Post by BrIaNMeRcY on Apr 15, 2015 15:08:40 GMT -5
The Rumble as a qualifier for a qualifier would be terrible. WWE is in a tough spot building top babyfaces because of The Authority storyline spending the last two years encouraging the worst kind of fans at the TV tapings, but they shouldn't diminish the Rumble over it. The Royal Rumble match itself should be protected. It shouldn't be used to get somebody over. Whoever wins it each year should already have that steam and is liked by the fans. This is where things went awry for Roman Reigns. He was gaining too much steam after The Shield's break-up. Then, they cooled off on him. When he came back, all the steam was lost. When it came down time for the Royal Rumble, the fans didn't take to him kindly. PWInsider's Mike Johnson felt really bad towards The Rock and Roman Reigns who were getting booed like crazy. The WWE is takings too many mis-step's. Reigns is all sizzle but no steak right now. In future speak, I'll see Roman Reigns' ascension as one of the biggest blunders. He could have done more if the WWE played their cards right. Tenn years from now, wrestling fans who would remember the 2015 Royal Rumble fondly. I wish I can say how fans ten years from now would see it.
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Post by Yambag Jones on Apr 15, 2015 15:39:22 GMT -5
I like that idea, but WWE is done with the Elimination Chamber for the time being.
Looking at the 2015 Rumble, they didn't have much of a choice. The only two people (not named Daniel Bryan) that would have gotten a huge reaction if they won would be Dolph and Ambrose. Neither made too much sense to face Lesnar at WrestleMania.
"Fans" will complain no matter what. NO. MATTER. WHAT. Really, it's kind of the WWE's fault for making the raucous crowd think their opinion matters.
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