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Post by Robert69 on Apr 14, 2015 20:06:48 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2015 20:36:15 GMT -5
No idea what to expect so I'll just get right to reviewing.
You renamed Joey Styles to "Chip Nacho"? Subtle..lol. One thing I gotta say, your pictures are really clear. The lighting is good, but only in some shots. It's a little dark for the inring shots as it doesn't look quite as bright as when the spotlight is being shown on the ring, IE WWE, TNA, heck even ROH. If I'm being completely honest, it was pretty bad even by first match standards. I'll probably see improvement as the show goes on...but right now all I can suggest is practice pacing. Clothesline ducked, RKO. Weird arm thingy, F5. Match over. I'd suggest taking pictures of Hogan and Zeb in more bright lighting, as the light sorta works with the in ring shots, but not with the what appears to be photoshopped backstage shots. I like the idea tho. Not sure what I think about the light panel idea for the entrance thingy, or at least for CM Punk's entrance. It weirdly enough works. The commentators are probably voicing my one big complaint so far, something that usually doesn't happen in first episodes. All of the matches are PPV quality. Haven't seen the rest of your roster, so hopefully you've still got other feuds you can build up over time. I can't tell if this is supposed to be humorous. Punk hugs Cena, Joey Styles renamed. Screwy finish. This isn't a bad thing, as it allows to continue building Punk vs Cena. A pretty creepy CM Punk promo and then Kidd vs Ryback. Wonder who's gonna win lol. I wasn't expecting it, but this has been the best match so far in terms of posing. An okay main event, and a good set up going forward.
The good?
Presentation, to an extent. I'm not the biggest fan of the lights being down every match, tho it does make the pics look very good.
The okay
Promos. They could be improved, like perhaps sounding more like the superstar you're trying to emulate (what was up with that punk promo?!) but at least you got em.
Posing. By the end of the show it was improved, but still far from realistic. Study other pic fedders, maybe even the video games, heck or maybe just actual wrestling.
Commentary. There's nothing particularly good about it, but it's far from bad.
The bad
The card.
It featured Lesnar vs Orton, Punk vs Cena, Kidd vs Ryback, and Harper vs Jomo. Lesnar vs Orton and Punk vs Cena were both before the two other, mid-lower card matches. Lesnar vs Orton is a huge dream match, and it turned into more of an excercise in learning how to pose the F5 and RKO. Punk vs Cena was okay, but even tho in execution Kidd vs Ryback was better, it shouldn't've preceded Punk vs Cena.
I could go on, but I've said everything I needed to say. Decent first episode, but at this point, and in pic fedding overall, there's always room for improvement.
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Post by Robert69 on Apr 14, 2015 23:49:10 GMT -5
No idea what to expect so I'll just get right to reviewing. EXPECT THE UNEXPECTED!!!!You renamed Joey Styles to "Chip Nacho"? Subtle..lol. I did. And Plucky is a touched up Taz figure that I did to look semi like myself. I was going to name him Bob Buckner, but I recently remembered the 'ELELATOR GO DOWN' Tiny Toons bit, and always enjoyed that. So Plucky it was. Also, Cindy Michelle is an old Stephanie McMahon figure.One thing I gotta say, your pictures are really clear. Thank you.
The lighting is good, but only in some shots. It's a little dark for the inring shots as it doesn't look quite as bright as when the spotlight is being shown on the ring, IE WWE, TNA, heck even ROH. I intend to work on perfecting the lighting as I go along. As I told peeps when talking about lighting in the Discussion thread, I am by no means a master, and lighting is something that requires practice, and finding what I want.If I'm being completely honest, it was pretty bad even by first match standards. That's unfortunate. I'm sorry you feel that way.I'll probably see improvement as the show goes on...but right now all I can suggest is practice pacing. Clothesline ducked, RKO. Weird arm thingy, F5. Match over. That particular match was intentionally paced that way, with long term story ramifications to it. The clothesline was a very poor shot, I admit.
I'd suggest taking pictures of Hogan and Zeb in more bright lighting, as the light sorta works with the in ring shots, but not with the what appears to be photoshopped backstage shots. Not Photoshop. Green screen work in After Effects that did not come out how I wanted. I'm going to weigh my options, but right now am leaning towards designing some sort of GM office, depending on how well received the show is overall, and how much time I'm going to put into it.I like the idea tho. Thank you.Not sure what I think about the light panel idea for the entrance thingy, or at least for CM Punk's entrance. It weirdly enough works. I wanted the shows to have a very specific feel right now. I tried to think about if I were to start a wrestling promotion, and HAD money, but didn't wanna sink a ton into it, how would I design the entrance stage, etc? A simple, small LED panel, would be good enough at the very start. As the storylines develop, and the show goes on, the arena itself, and the show itself will grow.The commentators are probably voicing my one big complaint so far, something that usually doesn't happen in first episodes. All of the matches are PPV quality. As noted in the Announcement segment I first put out, the GMs are given a salary cap. Some superstars are worth far more than others. These first few choices are their marquee investments. Hogan expects Orton/Cena to be his A+ brand faces, etc. Haven't seen the rest of your roster, so hopefully you've still got other feuds you can build up over time. Yes. Supplemental draft followed at 10 PM on Twitter where another 6 athletes were added to each show. More may be added down the line, as the GMs figure out the money they have left to work with.I can't tell if this is supposed to be humorous. Punk hugs Cena, It is. I am putting my own twist on many of these Superstars. Some people will like these character developments. Some wont. I understand that, and accept it. I don't want to tell my version of WWE. I want to tell AWE, so that's what I'm trying to establish here.Joey Styles renamed. Because here, he's not Joey Styles. He's Chip Nacho. Screwy finish. This isn't a bad thing, as it allows to continue building Punk vs Cena. I thought it was a nice touch that I kept just enough CM Punk that he'd be smart enough to make the sound of the chair hit for the Ref, then the newer way I'm building his character, that he did the whole fake chair hit thing. A pretty creepy CM Punk promo and then Kidd vs Ryback. Wonder who's gonna win lol. I wasn't expecting it, but this has been the best match so far in terms of posing. An okay main event, and a good set up going forward. The good? Presentation, to an extent. I'm not the biggest fan of the lights being down every match, tho it does make the pics look very good. Thank you. As I noted earlier, I have some tweaking to do over time, to get the exact look I want, but I really do like the style overall, and think I'm on the right track.The okay Promos. They could be improved, like perhaps sounding more like the superstar you're trying to emulate (what was up with that punk promo?!) but at least you got em. Posing. By the end of the show it was improved, but still far from realistic. I just want to create a new version of some characters. Some of them are just meant to be fun, entertaining, etc. Study other pic fedders, maybe even the video games, heck or maybe just actual wrestling. Commentary. There's nothing particularly good about it, but it's far from bad. I have been. A lot. lolThe bad The card. I'm sorry you feel that way.It featured Lesnar vs Orton, Punk vs Cena, Kidd vs Ryback, and Harper vs Jomo. Lesnar vs Orton and Punk vs Cena were both before the two other, mid-lower card matches. Laid out this way only because of their position in the draft, and they had to compete in order to earn the next draft for their GM.Lesnar vs Orton is a huge dream match, and it turned into more of an excercise in learning how to pose the F5 and RKO. I have plans. Lesnar/Orton may very well not be done yet.Punk vs Cena was okay, but even tho in execution Kidd vs Ryback was better, it shouldn't've preceded (succeeded? preceded is come before. Kidd/Ryback succeeded Punk/Cena) Punk vs Cena.
Like I said about Lesnar/Orton, the only reason the match order here was the way it was, was just because of when the athletes were drafted. Had absolutely nothing to do with low/mid/upper card, this episode.I could go on, but I've said everything I needed to say. Decent first episode, but at this point, and in pic fedding overall, there's always room for improvement. Absolutely. And I intend to improve, hopefully with every episode.
Again, I truly do appreciate you taking the time to check it out, and to give honest feedback. I will take it, along with everyone else's, and give it serious consideration, in hopes of getting better. Anything less than being one of the best on the board, is unacceptable to me. I knew that wouldn't be after just one episode, but I intend on putting in the time, and contributing here enough that I earn that respect over time. Thank you, again! |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2015 23:55:59 GMT -5
I will take it, along with everyone else's, and give it serious consideration, in hopes of getting better. Anything less than being one of the best on the board, is unacceptable to me. That's the spirit. Looking forward to your second show. |
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Post by Robert69 on Apr 14, 2015 23:58:47 GMT -5
I will take it, along with everyone else's, and give it serious consideration, in hopes of getting better. Anything less than being one of the best on the board, is unacceptable to me. That's the spirit. Looking forward to your second show. You should check the Twitter page... twitter.com/AWEPicFedJust saw you're an Ambrose fan. Some of the superstars may interest many people who are unsure about any of those taken here. |
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Post by T on Apr 15, 2015 4:26:33 GMT -5
Looking forward to this.
-Photography, lighting, etc is top notch as expected. The Colter/Hulk in the office was a cool idea, but it looked a bit dodgy if I'm honest. Would've been better to maybe put them as an inset so that the blurry Colter wasn't as noticeable
-First match was over way too quick. I know Lesnar is went to look strong, this made Orton look far too weak for a #1 pick
-You don't see many Sleeper spots in Pic Feds, so that was cool
-Good old Eddie spot for the finish
-I liked that Ryback won with a Clothesline, but a brutal one. Refreshing to see
-Nice finish with all the chaos erupting and Dana making a tournament was a clever thing to do
Really refreshing to see a first show done like that. I hope you can keep up the burden of producing two shows, but it's all good while you've got the pic fed bug, so to speak. Poses are a massive area to work on. It's good that you're using fishing wire, but more basic poses like pin falls could do with the limbs being articulated more.
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Post by Robert69 on Apr 15, 2015 4:37:30 GMT -5
Looking forward to this. -Photography, lighting, etc is top notch as expected. Thank you.The Colter/Hulk in the office was a cool idea, but it looked a bit dodgy if I'm honest. Would've been better to maybe put them as an inset so that the blurry Colter wasn't as noticeable
Yeah. I've got to figure out what I'm going to do with that. I thought I got a great image in camera, stuck it in After Effects, and when I pulled the green screen...ugh. I have no idea. It happens. So, I need to figure out a better way to do it.
-First match was over way too quick. I know Lesnar is went to look strong, this made Orton look far too weak for a #1 pick Understood. All I can say is "I have plans".
-You don't see many Sleeper spots in Pic Feds, so that was cool I noticed that, and was curious as to why not. I suppose simply because it's kind of dull, overall, but -- here and there it can be effective.
-Good old Eddie spot for the finish  RIP. -I liked that Ryback won with a Clothesline, but a brutal one. Refreshing to see He's getting a new finisher. I was just too pissed with the Kidd figure to deal with filming it lol -- I have always despised, and will not leave his finisher as the marching around the ring stuff.
-Nice finish with all the chaos erupting and Dana making a tournament was a clever thing to do Really refreshing to see a first show done like that.
Thank you.
I hope you can keep up the burden of producing two shows, but it's all good while you've got the pic fed bug, so to speak.
I don't think it'll be TOO bad. A lot of crossing over early on, since there wont be THAT many Superstars on each brand. Plenty of storylines to be had, too.
Poses are a massive area to work on. It's good that you're using fishing wire, but more basic poses like pin falls could do with the limbs being articulated more.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2015 6:46:50 GMT -5
Here we go! I won't comment on Lesnar/Orton as we've already discussed that over PMs, now onto the rest of the show! -Ahh Brock, man of few words! -Here comes the Pain! -Nice touch with Orton being stretchered out. -Cena vs Punk? This is going to be good. Punk's laways been able to get a good match out of Cena. -CM Hug? -Loving this technical style. Reminds me of the SummerSlam 2011 match. -Looks like there's a picture missing there just as Punk goes for the clothesline. -EDDIE! EDDIE! EDDIE! -Tyson F'N Kidd?! Hell yeah! -Man, Hogan sure likes those muscle guys... -What did he just say about his Mum?! -Uncle...Uncle Billy? -Nice match there with Kidd and Ryback! -Hogan picks Harper? Cool! -Harpr vs JoMo? This is going to be cool! -There's some cool spots in this one! -Is Hogan a heel now? -IT'S THE AMERICAN DREAM, IF YOU WIIIIIILLLLLL! -Oh s**t! HERE COMES THE BEAST! -Orton/Morrison should be cool. Same with Cena/Kidd and Ryback/Cena. Lesnar/Harper? Harper's going to get killed! Great show Robert69! Looking forward to Fierce! |
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Post by attitudesback on Apr 15, 2015 6:47:20 GMT -5
Right then, let's go! - Some really epic shots so far. Looks like a film trailer! - Not entirely sure what Lesnar's first move was. - The ref's pinfall pose could've been improved. He was just flat down face first. - Lesnar's cover was perfect for the gimmick. - Would've had Lesnar's interview come before the entrances but that's just my preference. - Nice ending. Really cool to see the chaos unfold. - Lesnar's booked perfectly. This is exactly how a man like Lesnar should be booked, imo. Enjoyed it. Solid start, hopefully the card order is sorted and the poses improve, this is definitely going to be good. The two brands at war is going to lead to a unique storyline at the moment.  |
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Post by Robert69 on Apr 15, 2015 6:56:18 GMT -5
Here we go! I won't comment on Lesnar/Orton as we've already discussed that over PMs, now onto the est of the show! That we did.-Ahh Brock, man of few words! -Here comes the Pain!
Words need not be spoken, when you're Brock F'N Lesnar.
-Nice touch with Orton being stretchered out. Thank you.
-Cena vs Punk? This is going to be good. Punk's laways been able to get a good match out of Cena. -CM Hug? -Loving this technical style. Reminds me of the SummerSlam 2011 match. -Looks like there's a picture missing there just as Punk goes for the clothesline. It's possible. Did have some technical difficulties. Tis why the show went up late last night. Will have to look and see if i can find it.
-EDDIE! EDDIE! EDDIE! -Tyson F'N Kidd?! Hell yeah! -Man, Hogan sure likes those muscle guys... -What did he just say about his Mum?! -Uncle...Uncle Billy? -Nice match there with Kidd and Ryback! Thanks.-Hogan picks Harper? Cool! -Harpr vs JoMo? This is going to be cool! -There's some cool spots in this one! Thanks.
-Is Hogan a heel now? ...He's Hulk Hogan. He just -- is.
-IT'S THE AMERICAN DREAM, IF YOU WIIIIIILLLLLL! -Oh s**t! HERE COMES THE BEAST! -Orton/Morrison should be cool. Same with Cena/Kidd and Ryback/ Punk, you meant?Lesnar/Harper? Harper's going to get killed! ...nothing is certain. NOTHING Great show Robert69! Looking forward to Fierce! Thank you! |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2015 6:59:29 GMT -5
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Post by Robert69 on Apr 15, 2015 7:00:56 GMT -5
Right then, let's go! - Some really epic shots so far. Looks like a film trailer! Thanks!- Not entirely sure what Lesnar's first move was. Just a clothesline that was horribly shot. I admit this.
- The ref's pinfall pose could've been improved. He was just flat down face first. Yeah. Hopefully you found his pose better in the other matches? I at least tried to explain this face down thing in the first match as him tripping in the commentary lol
- Lesnar's cover was perfect for the gimmick. Thanks.
- Would've had Lesnar's interview come before the entrances but that's just my preference. Makes sense, but I went with it this way because I felt it carried a bit more weight so that when he did say his line, the audience has already seen that he means business.
- Nice ending. Really cool to see the chaos unfold. - Lesnar's booked perfectly. This is exactly how a man like Lesnar should be booked, imo. Thank you. There are several storylines I look forward to having unfold.Enjoyed it. Solid start, hopefully the card order is sorted and the poses improve, this is definitely going to be good. I plan on improving things, and yeah, as I noted to Brick, the card order played out strictly due to the draft aspect. There WILL be a lower/middle/upper card established.The two brands at war is going to lead to a unique storyline at the moment. ...There are plans |
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Post by The Champ is Here! on Apr 15, 2015 11:03:25 GMT -5
Liked the roster choices, including the supplemental draft.
Brock looked like a beast, but Orton looked weak.
Cm punk promo was odd...liked the EG type of win
Your commentary was funny, i enjoyed them making fun of Cena, and the way his matches go
A little more light would be awesome
The brand war is a fun element...will you have exclusive champs?
This was a good start and im excited to see more!
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Post by Robert69 on Apr 15, 2015 11:56:46 GMT -5
Liked the roster choices, including the supplemental draft. Thanks.Brock looked like a beast, but Orton looked weak. Cm punk promo was odd ...liked the EG type of win Your commentary was funny, i enjoyed them making fun of Cena, and the way his matches goAppreciatedA little more light would be awesome The brand war is a fun element...will you have exclusive champs? There will be the AWEHC and a mid-card champion between the two shows, for now (with probably a tag championship following thereafter). Going to actually put the mid-card Title name up for a vote in the very near future. Probably immediately following the next episode. Allow everyone to get some say in there. Could make it fun. Just not enough talent on the rosters to warrant two champs, yet. Plus there only being the 'A' and 'B' champion is another element I'll be using in the brand battles.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2015 5:00:55 GMT -5
Great show man!! Admittedly, the Orton/Brock match was all levels of ridiculous but an essential story building match up with Brock getting the win! I appreciate we may see more of these two, but I don't know if I want to after that, Orton got buried and Brock looked effortlessly superior! Dunno if Id have wanted that one to be my "first match". Cena/Punk was great, I'm a fan of screwy finishes like this in order to elevate a proper heel, and you nailed it buddy! How cheap from Punk, looking forward to seeing this develop.. That Ryback figure truly is epic, good match up there, I'm already a big fan of Tyson Kidd in your fed! "The boring police" Bahahaha! Would have liked to have seen a longer main event really but that's fine by me, Brock looked dominant again at the end! The way he should be.. AWESOME stuff buddy! I gotta be honest though, since you're the guy who bangs on about light, get some bloody light!! Haha I appreciate the quality of your images, but brighten things up a little and zoom out the camera! Viewers need to be able to see what's going on, if the pics are too close up/dark it can be a real chore to watch. All those expertise mean jack if people can't see what the bells going on! I would say work on your posing. The F5, pin falls, punk punching Cena on the ground, those poses were wayyyyy off but I put that down to experience, better poses will come by your second episode I have no doubt! I know you hurried this show out, work on the length of the matches a little too. I'd love to see more of a feature length show from you! I'm liking the movement of Super-production values on here right now! And you're a great example of the kind of all-round dedication it takes to produce a glossy pic fed keep improving those poses and building those stories buddy! You're certainly on the right track! |
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Post by Robert69 on Apr 16, 2015 5:24:31 GMT -5
Great show man!! Admittedly, the Orton/Brock match was all levels of ridiculous but an essential story building match up with Brock getting the win! I appreciate we may see more of these two, but I don't know if I want to after that, Orton got buried and Brock looked effortlessly superior! Dunno if Id have wanted that one to be my "first match". Oh. You'll want too. Cena/Punk was great, I'm a fan of screwy finishes like this in order to elevate a proper heel, and you nailed it buddy! How cheap from Punk, looking forward to seeing this develop.. I always preferred Punk as a heel. It's hard to pass up what I feel is a pretty natural state for him (minus the creep factor I've added for him lol)That Ryback figure truly is epic, good match up there, I'm already a big fan of Tyson Kidd in your fed! I like Tyson as well, and yes, I really do dig this Ryback figure."The boring police" Bahahaha! Would have liked to have seen a longer main event really but that's fine by me, Brock looked dominant again at the end! The way he should be.. AWESOME stuff buddy! Thank you.
I gotta be honest though, since you're the guy who bangs on about light, get some bloody light!! Haha I appreciate the quality of your images, but brighten things up a little and zoom out the camera! Viewers need to be able to see what's going on, if the pics are too close up/dark it can be a real chore to watch. All those expertise mean jack if people can't see what the bells going on! I've already started making these alterations for the next episode I would say work on your posing. The F5, pin falls, punk punching Cena on the ground, those poses were wayyyyy off but I put that down to experience, better poses will come by your second episode I have no doubt! I know you hurried this show out, work on the length of the matches a little too. I'd love to see more of a feature length show from you! Yes. I intend to make this my #1 area of improvement. I will say this, without spoiling anything other than one answer Dana gives in the first ep of AWE Fallout...Fierce will get all 4 of the first matches in the Title Tournament this next episode, since Raucous got the draft show...
And all 4 matches will be full-length and considerably longer. My main thing with 'turning out' that first episode was that I just -- as a story-teller, when I have a story in me to get out, it has to get out. It consumes, until I do. Now that I've gotten the story rolling, it's not ALL I'm thinking about. So now I can focus on "this is what needs to be better" -- namely match length, match quality, and a BIT more lighting. I think I've got the story, and the commentary etc all on lock pretty well enough that I can really work to focus on those 3 things.
Plus hey, I don't harp about lighting. I've only shared what it took me years to learn, and that was the basics of what is built off of. I didn't say I knew how to build off it, myself  lolI'm liking the movement of Super-production values on here right now! And you're a great example of the kind of all-round dedication it takes to produce a glossy pic fed keep improving those poses and building those stories buddy! You're certainly on the right track! Thank you. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2015 5:45:02 GMT -5
Plus hey, I don't harp about lighting. I've only shared what it took me years to learn, and that was the basics of what is built off of. I didn't say I knew how to build off it, myself lol [/b] [/quote] ..have you not seen your posts in discussion?! Mate I was expecting a lighting set up akin to a Hollywood blockbuster!! instead it felt like someone didn't pay the electric meter! I can't wait till Ep2, as much as the show would benefit from longer matches (AND A BLOODY LIGHT BULB OR TWO), I feel it's effective for the first show to be short and sweet, especially when you've laid storyline foundations as well as you have here. I still got a boner for Dana as your boss too, feels as if he could be the only man who could reign-in Brock! |
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Post by Robert69 on Apr 16, 2015 7:00:31 GMT -5
[/b] [/quote] ..have you not seen your posts in discussion?! Mate I was expecting a lighting set up akin to a Hollywood blockbuster!! instead it felt like someone didn't pay the electric meter! I can't wait till Ep2, as much as the show would benefit from longer matches (AND A BLOODY LIGHT BULB OR TWO), I feel it's effective for the first show to be short and sweet, especially when you've laid storyline foundations as well as you have here. I still got a boner for Dana as your boss too, feels as if he could be the only man who could reign-in Brock![/quote] lol, the lighting has been, and will be improved Just a matter of finding out what works best for the overall look I want. That takes practice, and time. Damn it, jim. I'm a Director, not a Cinematographer! |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2015 9:37:22 GMT -5
Good show, i really like your picture quality it looks very professional. the matches were really entertaining. the heavyweight title tournament looks great, i hope Luke Harper wins, he's underrated. great idea with the two brands, especially with Colter as one of the gm's, i don't think i have seen someone do that before in pic fedding. i really enjoyed watching the show, good work keep it up and i can't to see more. |
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Post by Robert69 on Apr 16, 2015 10:51:38 GMT -5
Good show, i really like your picture quality it looks very professional. the matches were really entertaining. the heavyweight title tournament looks great, i hope Luke Harper wins, he's underrated. great idea with the two brands, especially with Colter as one of the gm's, i don't think i have seen someone do that before in pic fedding. i really enjoyed watching the show, good work keep it up and i can't to see more. |
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