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Post by Rob7274 on May 1, 2015 7:41:32 GMT -5
ive been looking over my collection and noticed some really strange choices and incorrect heights between figures and I was wondering what you think is acceptable?
Mattel has to re-use parts and so some guys will unfortunately suffer from been slightly too tall/short but I've noticed that figures with unique parts suffer from unacceptable height differences (IMO).
One of the main reasons I like wrestling (especially as a kid) was the vast differences between wrestlers.
From Giants like Andre to average height guys like Brett Hart.
Or Yokozuna to Ultimate Warrior.
And they all had unique personalitys and attires.
That's why I started collecting Mattels WWE line due to the attention to detail and there ability to show the vast differences between wrestlers.
There were mistakes at the beginning like Mr Perfect but I always thought as the line went on these mistakes would become less frequent but that hasn't been the case.
For example:
Yokozuna has a lot of unique parts that can only really be used for him....so why is he about 6'6 in figure scale when he should be about 6'0.
Razor Ramon is quite a big guy at around 6'6 but his figures in the 6'2 range and Rusev who is quite small at around 5'11 is the same size as him.
Ryback has A lot of unique parts but he's way out of scale...his figure is tiny in height and mass.
When you put Divas together you'd think the were to different lines...
For example
Summer Rye who is as tall as a lot of male wrestler in the 6'0 to 6'3 range
And I've heard Lana is quite a bit too tall and she has unique parts aswell.
Then there's head sizes.
There all over the place...I thought that as they scan wrestlers they would be able to just scale down at a certain percentage on each figure so we get correct head sizes and they all stay within the same range as each other but again that's not the case.
Is Brie Bella's or Summer Ryes head really that much bigger than Paige's.
What happened to Rosa's head....?
Some of Jerichos head seems to be tiny compared to others.
These are only a few examples but there's a lot more to pick from including many recent additions.
How are Mattel getting some of these so wrong after 5 years...?
I'm a collector and fan of this line and MDT but this has really started to bug me.
I made this topic as I am a fan and wanted to hear your thoughts and hopefully MDT reads this and see that these things are important to some / a lot of collectors.
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Post by poindizzle on May 1, 2015 7:53:37 GMT -5
I was glad to have a Razor, but man, he sure does seem small. Really small, both in height and proportion.
The mass is more of an issue for me than height. I can overlook height but I can't ignore the Rock having drastically smaller arms than Cody Rhodes, that one Kofi Kingston, the new Randy Orton, Dolph Ziggler, and the DM Ricky Steamboat.
I also can't stand how small Jack Swagger's Elite body is. Maybe other fans don't care enough to buy multiples of him and they can't fit a new torso in the elite budget, but he matters to me dammit!
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Post by POOR-ly Cuyler on May 1, 2015 7:59:25 GMT -5
I just like that not everyone has the same torso/arms/thighs and the parts are easily swappable if necessary.
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Post by RV F'N D on May 1, 2015 8:09:40 GMT -5
There are some errors that are really bad because the correct parts already exist, and some that I can overlook for the most part. They do get it mostly right more often than not, and it's the best we've ever had it for wrestling figures because there is actual effort put towards the scale, which is not something that was ever a concern at jakks or Hasbro.
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Post by The Champ is Here! on May 1, 2015 8:12:52 GMT -5
been looking over my collection and noticed some really strange choices and incorrect heights between figures and I was wondering what you think is acceptable?
Mattel has to re-use parts and so some guys will unfortunately suffer from been slightly too tall/short but I've noticed that figures with unique parts suffer from unacceptable height differences (IMO).
One of the main reasons I like wrestling (especially as a kid) was the vast differences between wrestlers.
From Giants like Andre to average height guys like Brett Hart.
Or Yokozuna to Ultimate Warrior.
And they all had unique personalitys and attires.
That's why I started collecting Mattels WWE line due to the attention to detail and there ability to show the vast differences between wrestlers.
There were mistakes at the beginning like Mr Perfect but I always thought as the line went on these mistakes would become less frequent but that hasn't been the case.
For example:
Yokozuna has a lot of unique parts that can only really be used for him....so why is he about 6'6 in figure scale when he should be about 6'0.
Razor Ramon is quite a big guy at around 6'6 but his figures in the 6'2 range and Rusev who is quite small at around 5'11 is the same size as him.
Ryback has A lot of unique parts but he's way out of scale...his figure is tiny in height and mass.
When you put Divas together you'd think the were to different lines...
For example
Summer Rye who is as tall as a lot of male wrestler in the 6'0 to 6'3 range
And I've heard Lana is quite a bit too tall and she has unique parts aswell.
Then there's head sizes.
There all over the place...I thought that as they scan wrestlers they would be able to just scale down at a certain percentage on each figure so we get correct head sizes and they all stay within the same range as each other but again that's not the case.
Is Brie Bella's or Summer Ryes head really that much bigger than Paige's.
What happened to Rosa's head....?
Some of Jerichos head seems to be tiny compared to others.
These are only a few examples but there's a lot more to pick from including many recent additions.
How are Mattel getting some of these so wrong after 5 years...?
I'm a collector and fan of this line and MDT but this has really started to bug me.
I made this topic as I am a fan and wanted to hear your thoughts and hopefully MDT reads this and see that these things are important to some / a lot of collectors. Yoko is listed as 6'4"... For me its about being close...i love the razor fig, i havent put him next to other figs to know about his height...perfect bothered me I know they have to reuse parts, so overall im ok with it, i mean, rey and taker are not the same size, so thats good |
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2015 8:14:27 GMT -5
I don't know why a lot of people continue to believe Jakks didn't put any effort towards scale. Big Show is as tall as he should be, as is Khalli, later Rey Mysterios were given smaller legs, later Undertakers were given tall kickpads to increase their height, some guys like RSC taz were given Rocky boots to make em shorter, and all RVDs had short kickpads.
Mattel has some scale issues. Heck I'm pretty sure the new Basic Ambrose with the black tanktop might have longer legs then the elite new one. Previously you had Hunico Ambrose, and then like you said, Razor, the like. Daniel Bryan's a little taller then he should be as well, and early ortons were too tall.
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Post by WalterF on May 1, 2015 8:31:20 GMT -5
As someone who has collected he entirety of Jakks WWE run, the scale issues today are waaaay MINOR in comparison. I remember Rey being thicker than Orton, and taker being the same height as Shawn michaels and all kinds of things that really made you almost have to ignore scale completely.
All I know is now at least the distinctively tall guys are tall compared to the average and the super small guys are smaller than the average. That is good enough for me. If anything, some guys may be slightly more thin or gangly in figure form , BUT again, to me, that is minor compared to when I use to have figs of everybody and they ALL nearly looked like Warrior in muscularity
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2015 8:40:42 GMT -5
They simply shouldn't say they are to scale if they're not. If it's to scale great, if not then don't say it is.
It makes no odds to me I only collect Warriors, Rybacks and the DMs MOC
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Post by PJ on May 1, 2015 9:11:51 GMT -5
Mattel has never said they were exact scales. They are way better than Jakks though. Sure Mr Perfect is wrong as is the new look Ambrose but for the most part they have it right.
Rey and Bourne are shorter than everyone except Hornswaggle and El torito.
Guys between 6-6'3"are all the same.
Guys between 6'4"-6'6" are all about the same.
Guys 6'7"-6'9" are about the same
Then you have the giants.
That's about as good as it is going to get. That's about 6 different height scales. At least 3 more than we got with Jakks.
Heads there's hasn't. Been any balloon heads. There has been one or two I thought were a little on the small side, but I've not really had any issues with their head sizes.
My one issue is limbs Mattel can't seem to get it right. To many times they give large guys like L1 Hawk, Gunn and Razor small arms yet give later series Elite Dolph and Cody the DM Steamboat large muscular arms instead of the Orton arms they used to get.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2015 10:21:15 GMT -5
Its not exactly all Mattel's fault. Bill has mentioned before that the product comes back from the factory's too big or too small sometimes
He couldn't show Kaitlyn at one toy fair because the sample came back too big or too small.
I'm sure sometimes.its out of his control . Although I wish the figures were usually in better scale and sometimes the arm and leg choices bother me. Razors arms are too small
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Post by marino13 on May 1, 2015 10:43:39 GMT -5
The only time scale has ever been an issue for me was Mr Perfect and the sig series Ambrose. Besides that, I think they get it pretty darn close.
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Post by Medieval on May 1, 2015 10:46:49 GMT -5
im just grateful we get these great figures from mattel...sure there are some issues but this line crushes jakks in everyway in my opinion...im sure we will get a more accurate mr. perfect elite at some point.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2015 11:13:37 GMT -5
Personally, I don't see anything wrong with the scale. The big guys are big. The small guys are small. The middle man is just that. A few bad apples doesn't spoil the bunch for me, but I definitely get what you're saying. I'd much rather have a short Razor than a buff tall Mysterio.
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Post by East Coast on May 1, 2015 11:29:44 GMT -5
Yokozuna is too tall....because they had to use the Kamala feet.
and Kamala was the ugandan GIANT.
I believe that MDT always intended on using the e21 Ryback torso for a singlet Ultimate Warrior. Thats why its way out of whack for a Ryback figure. But looks perfect on e26 Warrior
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Post by RybackV1 on May 1, 2015 11:49:02 GMT -5
DM Razor really isn't that short
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Post by PJ on May 1, 2015 12:38:24 GMT -5
DM Razor really isn't that short Yeah I have no issue with his height Height Comparison - This is about right. He's shorter than Nash/Taker/Kane, but taller than guys like Triple H and shorter.   |
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Post by kgchampion on May 1, 2015 13:17:16 GMT -5
I don't mind the scale. It's way better than Jakks. Undertaker is really tall, while my Jakks Taker was really short because he had kickpads and the RVD torso. It doesn't have to be perfect, I can accept that. I'm fine with it. Everyone seems to be pretty close to scale. Also, Razor seems pretty tall to me. I'm looking right at him. His figure is taller than Kofi and HBK and Seth Rollins, etc. He's almost as tall as Diesel. About the same height as Cesaro.
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Post by wrestlingdelorean on May 1, 2015 13:22:40 GMT -5
The only time scale has ever been an issue for me was Mr Perfect and the sig series Ambrose. Besides that, I think they get it pretty darn close. I agree with this. Perfect was imperfect on scale. Hoping we can get a new one in the HOF series. |
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Post by The Gang on May 1, 2015 13:45:21 GMT -5
For the most part, Mattel's scale is awesome. There are definitely a few examples where they missed it a bit. Ax is too small and Earthquake is definitely a little on the small side, same with Big Bossman but all of those are just a little off. They're not like Jakks where Paul Bearer was taller than Undertaker and Big John Studd! I'd love to see what Mattel would do with Studd.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2015 13:57:47 GMT -5
I'm not too spoiled on scale for the most part but the recent Takers have a huge head! LOL And I still want to know the right torso for Cesaro.
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