ellisd
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Post by ellisd on May 6, 2015 7:21:14 GMT -5
I only have onethat really bugs me: when a wrestler gets pinned and you can see them watching the ref to see exactly when to kick out. Later, the same wrestler will lay there looking dazed or with their eyes closed when it is the real pin to end the match. Its a bit of a stretch but I think the explanation used for this situation is they are watching the ref to know exactly when to kick out so that they can use the duration of the pin attempt as a small break. A way to catch their breath, even though its only 3 seconds. Again I know its a stretch but I think I've heard the commentators play it off like that, probably in a case where it was too obvious that the wrestler was watching the ref and they needed an excuse to cover it up. One of the things that bugs me is how often Ambrose's 'rebound clothesline' and Orton's 'hanging DDT' are used. I enjoy both moves but hate how both are used in every one of their matches. The Rebound Clothesline is a surprise move as the opponent doesn't expect Ambrose to catch him self on the ropes and come back with a clothesline, but if it happens in every Ambrose match it takes away the surprise factor and makes it a little less believable to me. Orton's Hanging DDT is a great move, especially in a situation where the set up for it just seems so natural. However there are times that the set up for it seems a little forced. I especially hate it when Orton sets it up by throwing them through the ropes to the apron and then pulls them back in by their head.
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Post by King Richius on May 6, 2015 9:26:39 GMT -5
I only have onethat really bugs me: when a wrestler gets pinned and you can see them watching the ref to see exactly when to kick out. Later, the same wrestler will lay there looking dazed or with their eyes closed when it is the real pin to end the match. Its a bit of a stretch but I think the explanation used for this situation is they are watching the ref to know exactly when to kick out so that they can use the duration of the pin attempt as a small break. A way to catch their breath, even though its only 3 seconds. Again I know its a stretch but I think I've heard the commentators play it off like that, probably in a case where it was too obvious that the wrestler was watching the ref and they needed an excuse to cover it up. I agree with you and would add that a kick out at 2 and 1/2 is better for the theatrical aspect of the match than a kick out at 1. It just seems like some wrestlers are more obvious about watching the ref than others. It is a skill to be able to time that ref count based on audible cues and some are better than others. I also blame certain camera angles which almost highlight when a wrestler is watching the ref.
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hbchris
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Post by hbchris on May 6, 2015 15:57:06 GMT -5
Yes, this! Those are both great moves when used appropriately, but forcing them into every match is lame. One of the things that bugs me is how often Ambrose's 'rebound clothesline' and Orton's 'hanging DDT' are used. I enjoy both moves but hate how both are used in every one of their matches. The Rebound Clothesline is a surprise move as the opponent doesn't expect Ambrose to catch him self on the ropes and come back with a clothesline, but if it happens in every Ambrose match it takes away the surprise factor and makes it a little less believable to me. Orton's Hanging DDT is a great move, especially in a situation where the set up for it just seems so natural. However there are times that the set up for it seems a little forced. I especially hate it when Orton sets it up by throwing them through the ropes to the apron and then pulls them back in by their head.
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Post by The Gangsta on May 6, 2015 20:03:54 GMT -5
The biggest pet peeve of mine: when the two competitors first square off and one makes the first punch/attack. That person almost ALWAYS loses the match. It really does annoy the hell out of me sometimes, like King of the Ring. I saw Sheamus punch Neville first and I became excited that he was gonna win the match. After he moves on, Neville makes the first punch and...loses.
You can look at many matches and observe who punches and who usually wins in the end. With the more competitors, the same thing goes. However, it only eliminates usually one person.
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Post by CF9™ on May 7, 2015 0:37:15 GMT -5
When moves are only attempted to be reversed. For example, hardly anyone does a back body drop anymore but the bend over/get kicked in the face spot happens all the time. A select few people shoulder thrust a guy in the corner, and hell, NO ONE runs before they do it, yet the shoulder to the ring post spot happens multiple times a night.
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Post by Joey Cush on May 7, 2015 1:03:15 GMT -5
When Cena does the two shoulder blocks and his opponent goes for a clothesline. Like seriously. I cant recall somebody being creative enough to do something different.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2015 1:42:05 GMT -5
When moves are only attempted to be reversed. For example, hardly anyone does a back body drop anymore but the bend over/get kicked in the face spot happens all the time. A select few people shoulder thrust a guy in the corner, and hell, NO ONE runs before they do it, yet the shoulder to the ring post spot happens multiple times a night. Or anybody ever tried to powerbomb Billy Kidman. Ever. It just doesn't happen.
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The Dave
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Post by The Dave on May 7, 2015 8:41:42 GMT -5
That I have STILL yet to see a match end with someone going for the pin, opponent kicks out, second pin attempt (maybe even a third), then the 1-2-3! If they say kicking out expends energy it would make sense.
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Post by cripplercrossface on May 7, 2015 19:54:48 GMT -5
I hate when you can clearly hear wrestlers call the match. I'm talking about you Cena! Recently Cena vs Zayn.
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MikeMillenium
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Post by MikeMillenium on May 7, 2015 20:08:16 GMT -5
God, the commercial breaks during matches are the worst. Isn't that something they started doing within the last few years? Growing up I don't remember commercial breaks during matches. I hate when referees getting knocked out impacts the outcome of the match. For one thing there's about a billion ing cameras in the arena, now even in the god damn turnbuckle, you're telling me they could just watch the replay and reverse their decision? I know it's scripted but come on. Then it's even more annoying when they do actually reverse their decision based on watching the replay. If one decision gets reversed what about every other time a wrestler got screwed? I remember watching Coliseum Video tapes of WWF matches from like 1994, and even the VHS tapes had the commercial breaks in there... Hasn't that been going on for forever? I hate when you can clearly hear wrestlers call the match. I'm talking about you Cena! Recently Cena vs Zayn. And it must be only me, but I've never heard a call while watching WWE tv live... I never notice until the next Botchamania
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Post by Valbroski on May 8, 2015 15:25:06 GMT -5
God, the commercial breaks during matches are the worst. Isn't that something they started doing within the last few years? Growing up I don't remember commercial breaks during matches. I hate when referees getting knocked out impacts the outcome of the match. For one thing there's about a billion ing cameras in the arena, now even in the god damn turnbuckle, you're telling me they could just watch the replay and reverse their decision? I know it's scripted but come on. Then it's even more annoying when they do actually reverse their decision based on watching the replay. If one decision gets reversed what about every other time a wrestler got screwed? I remember watching Coliseum Video tapes of WWF matches from like 1994, and even the VHS tapes had the commercial breaks in there... Hasn't that been going on for forever? I hate when you can clearly hear wrestlers call the match. I'm talking about you Cena! Recently Cena vs Zayn. And it must be only me, but I've never heard a call while watching WWE tv live... I never notice until the next Botchamania It's very possible. Maybe I just didn't pay enough attention as a kid.
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