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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2015 10:38:24 GMT -5
Not to mention he "cheap popped" the crowd twice in a 90 second promo. That's what I didn't like. "I said the name of your city now cheer for me!!!!!!" Cena did the same with Owens I felt, but I guess that's just Cena's shtick. Cena literally says the same thing every week. I haven't even seen his promo from last night yet and I can tell you what he said. "WE GOT A HOT CROWD HERE TONIGHT" "YOU ALL READY TO SEE A FIGHT HERE TONIGHT" "THE CHAMP IS HERE" Or when he's really excited... "THE CHAMP IS HEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEE"
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Post by The Kevstaaa on May 19, 2015 10:40:23 GMT -5
Cena did the same with Owens I felt, but I guess that's just Cena's shtick. Cena literally says the same thing every week. I haven't even seen his promo from last night yet and I can tell you what he said. "WE GOT A HOT CROWD HERE TONIGHT" "YOU ALL READY TO SEE A FIGHT HERE TONIGHT" "THE CHAMP IS HERE" Or when he's really excited... "THE CHAMP IS HEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEE" I called that in the thread. Then he didn't talk about the hot crowd. Threw me off.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2015 10:41:13 GMT -5
Lana look good AF.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2015 10:44:00 GMT -5
10/10 would reproduce with
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2015 10:47:05 GMT -5
So is the Wyatt/Ryback feud over?
I hope so.
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Post by MADNESS_NH_97 on May 19, 2015 11:15:41 GMT -5
After his recent performances...I was kind of disappointed at this. Though I think it's good to not showcase every guy on every show. Helps to not over saturate them. I can go a week here and there with no Reigns, Orton, Ambrose, etc. Well i just can't stand Reigns! And no i am not one of the Royal Rumble Crybabies i just have enough of these typical "Anti Wrestlers" that only are there because they have "THE LOOK" or because they are Related to "Dwayne" ! That might worked in the 80's with Hogan and Warrior but nowadays we have guys like Rollins, Ambrose, Bryan, Cesaro, Neville etc etc in the WWE and they are not allowed to show what they are really cabable of while Dwayne's And he might improved but he should not be in the World Title Picture and beeing the one that always needs look Strong while the WWE World Heavyweight Champion Seth Rollins(aka Tyler Black) is forced to lay down for him in random Matches while beeing forced to do a Stupid DDT Facebuster or a Pedigree instead of the Curbstomp, God's Last Gift, Paroxysm or Phoenix Splash(atleast in the Four Way Match he should have done that !) And who knows maybe if WWE would turn him into a Midcard Guy without the One Man Shield Gimmick that actually does "Powerhouse" Moves(Clotheslines, Punches, Superman Punch, Spear and a Rebound Samoan Drop are not "Powerhouse" Moves )on a weekly basis i would have not so many problems with this guy but as long as he is in the World Title Picture and looking Strong all the time instead of other Guys that deserve that kind of Spot way more i sure as hell won't start to like him!
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Post by The Kevstaaa on May 19, 2015 11:24:16 GMT -5
After his recent performances...I was kind of disappointed at this. Though I think it's good to not showcase every guy on every show. Helps to not over saturate them. I can go a week here and there with no Reigns, Orton, Ambrose, etc. Well i just can't stand Reigns! And no i am not one of the Royal Rumble Crybabies i just have enough of these typical "Anti Wrestlers" that only are there because they have "THE LOOK" or because they are Related to "Dwayne" ! That might worked in the 80's with Hogan and Warrior but nowadays we have guys like Rollins, Ambrose, Bryan, Cesaro, Neville etc etc in the WWE and they are not allowed to show what they are really cabable of while Dwayne's And he might improved but he should not be in the World Title Picture and beeing the one that always needs look Strong while the WWE World Heavyweight Champion Seth Rollins(aka Tyler Black) is forced to lay down for him in random Matches while beeing forced to do a Stupid DDT Facebuster or a Pedigree instead of the Curbstomp, God's Last Gift, Paroxysm or Phoenix Splash(atleast in the Four Way Match he should have done that !) And who knows maybe if WWE would turn him into a Midcard Guy without the One Man Shield Gimmick that actually does "Powerhouse" Moves(Clotheslines, Punches, Superman Punch, Spear and a Rebound Samoan Drop are not "Powerhouse" Moves )on a weekly basis i would have not so many problems with this guy but as long as he is in the World Title Picture and looking Strong all the time instead of other Guys that deserve that kind of Spot way more i sure as hell won't start to like him! But Roman Reigns is good. He didn't just get pushed solely because he's related to the Rock. If that was the case, Manu would have gotten a push. I would not call Roman an "Anti-Wrestler". While he isn't a mat technician and doesn't have any flashy moves, the guy has shown over the past three Pay-Per-Views that he deserves to be in the title picture. He should not have walked out of WrestleMania with the world title, which is fine because it didn't happen. He has to look strong, not because it's a joke we like to make after Punk's podcast, but because he's a top face. They have to look strong. I agree that Seth Rollins should look stronger. I'm okay with him sneaking in victories and stuff because it's how heel champions are usually booked. I don't like that he gets bitched out to Kane but that's really it. Also, Seth is not being booked to do the DDT facebuster because they want him to look weak. Also, his Phoenix Splash would look weak considering Neville is doing second rope ones in regular matches. I get that guys like Rollins and Ambrose are more "wrestler" types, but Reigns can go. I didn't like him winning the Rumble and thought it should have been Bryan. However, knowing Bryan's injury and the way the Mania main event turned out, it ended up working out for the best. You can not like Reigns. You are more than entitled to think that way. But he's good.
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Post by Midnight on May 19, 2015 11:32:37 GMT -5
All in all it was a great RAW.
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Post by MADNESS_NH_97 on May 19, 2015 11:40:34 GMT -5
Well i just can't stand Reigns! And no i am not one of the Royal Rumble Crybabies i just have enough of these typical "Anti Wrestlers" that only are there because they have "THE LOOK" or because they are Related to "Dwayne" ! That might worked in the 80's with Hogan and Warrior but nowadays we have guys like Rollins, Ambrose, Bryan, Cesaro, Neville etc etc in the WWE and they are not allowed to show what they are really cabable of while Dwayne's And he might improved but he should not be in the World Title Picture and beeing the one that always needs look Strong while the WWE World Heavyweight Champion Seth Rollins(aka Tyler Black) is forced to lay down for him in random Matches while beeing forced to do a Stupid DDT Facebuster or a Pedigree instead of the Curbstomp, God's Last Gift, Paroxysm or Phoenix Splash(atleast in the Four Way Match he should have done that !) And who knows maybe if WWE would turn him into a Midcard Guy without the One Man Shield Gimmick that actually does "Powerhouse" Moves(Clotheslines, Punches, Superman Punch, Spear and a Rebound Samoan Drop are not "Powerhouse" Moves )on a weekly basis i would have not so many problems with this guy but as long as he is in the World Title Picture and looking Strong all the time instead of other Guys that deserve that kind of Spot way more i sure as hell won't start to like him! But Roman Reigns is good. He didn't just get pushed solely because he's related to the Rock. If that was the case, Manu would have gotten a push. I would not call Roman an "Anti-Wrestler". While he isn't a mat technician and doesn't have any flashy moves, the guy has shown over the past three Pay-Per-Views that he deserves to be in the title picture. He should not have walked out of WrestleMania with the world title, which is fine because it didn't happen. He has to look strong, not because it's a joke we like to make after Punk's podcast, but because he's a top face. They have to look strong. I agree that Seth Rollins should look stronger. I'm okay with him sneaking in victories and stuff because it's how heel champions are usually booked. I don't like that he gets bitched out to Kane but that's really it. Also, Seth is not being booked to do the DDT facebuster because they want him to look weak. Also, his Phoenix Splash would look weak considering Neville is doing second rope ones in regular matches. I get that guys like Rollins and Ambrose are more "wrestler" types, but Reigns can go. I didn't like him winning the Rumble and thought it should have been Bryan. However, knowing Bryan's injury and the way the Mania main event turned out, it ended up working out for the best. You can not like Reigns. You are more than entitled to think that way. But he's good. Again i possibly could like Reigns if he wouldn't be the Samoan Superman! And one thing they need to stop is stop calling him a "Powerhouse" ! He is not a Powerhouse ! He is a Brawler ! That's it ! And he might have some potential but they completely hide that. And yeah the Top Face needs to look strong but if they have one of the best Pro Wrestlers ever as the top heel that guy should be a dominant heel. And i can understand that the Top Heel is not supposed to have as Epic move like the Phoenix Splash(eventough he should use it in PPV Matches) but again the God's Last Gift and the Paroxysm... Why can't he use these Moves? Most of the typical viewership won't even recognize these Moves because for them ROH and other Indy Leagues do not exist so beside getting a to positive reaction there is no logical reason for him not using these Moves instead of that **** Version of the Bloddy Sunday(Which also has that Underhook but ends up in a Brainbuster instead of a Kick Out DDT Facebuster)
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Post by The Kevstaaa on May 19, 2015 11:45:21 GMT -5
But Roman Reigns is good. He didn't just get pushed solely because he's related to the Rock. If that was the case, Manu would have gotten a push. I would not call Roman an "Anti-Wrestler". While he isn't a mat technician and doesn't have any flashy moves, the guy has shown over the past three Pay-Per-Views that he deserves to be in the title picture. He should not have walked out of WrestleMania with the world title, which is fine because it didn't happen. He has to look strong, not because it's a joke we like to make after Punk's podcast, but because he's a top face. They have to look strong. I agree that Seth Rollins should look stronger. I'm okay with him sneaking in victories and stuff because it's how heel champions are usually booked. I don't like that he gets bitched out to Kane but that's really it. Also, Seth is not being booked to do the DDT facebuster because they want him to look weak. Also, his Phoenix Splash would look weak considering Neville is doing second rope ones in regular matches. I get that guys like Rollins and Ambrose are more "wrestler" types, but Reigns can go. I didn't like him winning the Rumble and thought it should have been Bryan. However, knowing Bryan's injury and the way the Mania main event turned out, it ended up working out for the best. You can not like Reigns. You are more than entitled to think that way. But he's good. Again i possibly could like Reigns if he wouldn't be the Samoan Superman! And one thing they need to stop is stop calling him a "Powerhouse" ! He is not a Powerhouse ! He is a Brawler ! That's it ! And he might have some potential but they completely hide that. And yeah the Top Face needs to look strong but if they have one of the best Pro Wrestlers ever as the top heel that guy should be a dominant heel. And i can understand that the Top Heel is not supposed to have as Epic move like the Phoenix Splash(eventough he should use it in PPV Matches) but again the God's Last Gift and the Paroxysm... Why can't he use these Moves? Most of the typical viewership won't even recognize these Moves because for them ROH and other Indy Leagues do not exist so beside getting a to positive reaction there is no logical reason for him not using these Moves instead of that **** Version of the Bloddy Sunday(Which also has that Underhook but ends up in a Brainbuster instead of a Kick Out DDT Facebuster) I love Seth Rollins to death, but think back in history? How many of the best wrestlers in the world were dominant heel champions. Edge wasn't. Triple H cheated and had help a ton. Heel Shawn Michaels didn't dominate. The only dominant heel champions in history are big guys. It's just not how the WWE works, even if you're talented. The fact that Seth has been able to adapt to this speaks volumes about him. They've also cut back on the "powerhouse" talk of Roman Reigns, which is good because I disliked that. I'm not sure on God's Last Gift and Paroxsym but I believe he had to stop using them a long time ago. The Phoenix Splash is used by Neville and his other move is used by Kalisto. The Pedigree is honestly a great alternative. You wanna get a heel heat? Have him use the IWC's least favorite finisher.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2015 11:45:59 GMT -5
I still feel that 3 hours is a little too long.
I don't always feel like sitting up from 1:00am until 4:00am.
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Post by Chip on May 19, 2015 11:52:18 GMT -5
Sheamus/Ryback was fun Tag Match was good Barrett/Neville was fine Bray/Ambrose was great Main event stuff was perfect (even though the crowd was shiite) and Kevin ing Owens....wow. Well worth my time last night
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2015 11:56:02 GMT -5
So is Owens gonna Face Cena for the U.S Title or is it just Non-Title?
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2015 11:57:50 GMT -5
So is Owens gonna Face Cena for the U.S Title or is it just Non-Title? It's for the belt.
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Post by MADNESS_NH_97 on May 19, 2015 11:58:11 GMT -5
Again i possibly could like Reigns if he wouldn't be the Samoan Superman! And one thing they need to stop is stop calling him a "Powerhouse" ! He is not a Powerhouse ! He is a Brawler ! That's it ! And he might have some potential but they completely hide that. And yeah the Top Face needs to look strong but if they have one of the best Pro Wrestlers ever as the top heel that guy should be a dominant heel. And i can understand that the Top Heel is not supposed to have as Epic move like the Phoenix Splash(eventough he should use it in PPV Matches) but again the God's Last Gift and the Paroxysm... Why can't he use these Moves? Most of the typical viewership won't even recognize these Moves because for them ROH and other Indy Leagues do not exist so beside getting a to positive reaction there is no logical reason for him not using these Moves instead of that **** Version of the Bloddy Sunday(Which also has that Underhook but ends up in a Brainbuster instead of a Kick Out DDT Facebuster) I love Seth Rollins to death, but think back in history? How many of the best wrestlers in the world were dominant heel champions. Edge wasn't. Triple H cheated and had help a ton. Heel Shawn Michaels didn't dominate. The only dominant heel champions in history are big guys. It's just not how the WWE works, even if you're talented. The fact that Seth has been able to adapt to this speaks volumes about him. They've also cut back on the "powerhouse" talk of Roman Reigns, which is good because I disliked that. I'm not sure on God's Last Gift and Paroxsym but I believe he had to stop using them a long time ago. The Phoenix Splash is used by Neville and his other move is used by Kalisto. The Pedigree is honestly a great alternative. You wanna get a heel heat? Have him use the IWC's least favorite finisher. Yeah Edge, Triple H and HBK cheated etc etc. But guess what! They where allowed to use their cool Finishing Moves! And yeah Rollins having his first FCW/WWE Matches in 2010 means that his last Indy Matches where he was allowed to do the God's Last Gift(which is just a Small Package Driver/Fisherman buster into a Small Package which if done right should not fall into the "Banned Moves" Category) is a long time ago! And when it comes to the Sethwalker/Shiranui and "What ever it is called"/Sit Out Shiranui beeing to similar. Tell me one person that had problems with Undertaker, Kane & Big Show using the Chokeslam and Goldberg, Rhyno, Edge, Bobby Lashley, Big Show, Ashley, Kaitlyn, Christian, Reigns and who ever else did the Spear having a problem with them doing it(and some at the same time when it comes to them beeing on the WWE Roster) And when it comes to the Paroxysm... Finn Balór uses something similar to it but he does not do the spin so it is a different variation of the Inverted DDT so it should not be that much of a problem as well ! I hope these Concussion Law Problem thing(what ever it is) gets fixed so he can do the Curb Stomp again... Eventhough he easly could hit the upper back instead of the Neck/Head but that salvation seem to be to complicated for Vinnie Mac !
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Post by The Kevstaaa on May 19, 2015 12:03:04 GMT -5
I love Seth Rollins to death, but think back in history? How many of the best wrestlers in the world were dominant heel champions. Edge wasn't. Triple H cheated and had help a ton. Heel Shawn Michaels didn't dominate. The only dominant heel champions in history are big guys. It's just not how the WWE works, even if you're talented. The fact that Seth has been able to adapt to this speaks volumes about him. They've also cut back on the "powerhouse" talk of Roman Reigns, which is good because I disliked that. I'm not sure on God's Last Gift and Paroxsym but I believe he had to stop using them a long time ago. The Phoenix Splash is used by Neville and his other move is used by Kalisto. The Pedigree is honestly a great alternative. You wanna get a heel heat? Have him use the IWC's least favorite finisher. Yeah Edge, Triple H and HBK cheated etc etc. But guess what! They where allowed to use their cool Finishing Moves! And yeah Rollins having his first FCW/WWE Matches in 2010 means that his last Indy Matches where he was allowed to do the God's Last Gift(which is just a Small Package Driver/Fisherman buster into a Small Package which if done right should not fall into the "Banned Moves" Category) is a long time ago! And when it comes to the Sethwalker/Shiranui and "What ever it is called"/Sit Out Shiranui beeing to similar. Tell me one person that had problems with Undertaker, Kane & Big Show using the Chokeslam and Goldberg, Rhyno, Edge, Bobby Lashley, Big Show, Ashley, Kaitlyn, Christian, Reigns and who ever else did the Spear having a problem with them doing it(and some at the same time when it comes to them beeing on the WWE Roster) And when it comes to the Paroxysm... Finn Balór uses something similar to it but he does not do the spin so it is a different variation of the Inverted DDT so it should not be that much of a problem as well ! I hope these Concussion Law Problem thing(what ever it is) gets fixed so he can do the Curb Stomp again... Eventhough he easly could hit the upper back instead of the Neck/Head but that salvation seem to be to complicated for Vinnie Mac ! When I said "whatever it's called", it's because I forget if it was the Skywalker or Sethwalker. I would rather he not share moves. I get that the Chokeslam and Spear were shared. I hate it. It diminishes a move if tons of people do it. Look, I get that it sucks that Seth had his move banned. That's fine and I agree. But giving him the Pedigree is honestly the best choice. The other moves in his arsenal would get a pop and he needs to avoid that. It honestly seems like you're looking for reasons to complain at this point. I'd rather he use the Curb Stomp. But I'm okay with what we're getting. It's better than that stupid DDT.
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Post by MADNESS_NH_97 on May 19, 2015 12:09:02 GMT -5
Yeah Edge, Triple H and HBK cheated etc etc. But guess what! They where allowed to use their cool Finishing Moves! And yeah Rollins having his first FCW/WWE Matches in 2010 means that his last Indy Matches where he was allowed to do the God's Last Gift(which is just a Small Package Driver/Fisherman buster into a Small Package which if done right should not fall into the "Banned Moves" Category) is a long time ago! And when it comes to the Sethwalker/Shiranui and "What ever it is called"/Sit Out Shiranui beeing to similar. Tell me one person that had problems with Undertaker, Kane & Big Show using the Chokeslam and Goldberg, Rhyno, Edge, Bobby Lashley, Big Show, Ashley, Kaitlyn, Christian, Reigns and who ever else did the Spear having a problem with them doing it(and some at the same time when it comes to them beeing on the WWE Roster) And when it comes to the Paroxysm... Finn Balór uses something similar to it but he does not do the spin so it is a different variation of the Inverted DDT so it should not be that much of a problem as well ! I hope these Concussion Law Problem thing(what ever it is) gets fixed so he can do the Curb Stomp again... Eventhough he easly could hit the upper back instead of the Neck/Head but that salvation seem to be to complicated for Vinnie Mac ! When I said "whatever it's called", it's because I forget if it was the Skywalker or Sethwalker. I would rather he not share moves. I get that the Chokeslam and Spear were shared. I hate it. It diminishes a move if tons of people do it. Look, I get that it sucks that Seth had his move banned. That's fine and I agree. But giving him the Pedigree is honestly the best choice. The other moves in his arsenal would get a pop and he needs to avoid that. It honestly seems like you're looking for reasons to complain at this point. I'd rather he use the Curb Stomp. But I'm okay with what we're getting. It's better than that stupid DDT. Yeah the Pedigree is better than that stupid DDT ! For sure! It's not the God's Last Gift but it's better. And i guess it first was the Skywalker but i guess Disney/Lucas Arts/Who Ever has the rights for "Skywalker" so they needed to chance that into Sethwalker. And i obviously said "whatever it's called" because i don't remember the name of Kalisto's Shiranui Version.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2015 15:43:25 GMT -5
Lana and Dolph live sex next week.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2015 19:28:20 GMT -5
Caught some stuff that I missed from Raw on YouTube, and wow, the crowd was incredibly hot for the whole Lana/Ziggler/Rusev segment.
Part of me is happy because Ziggler is the Archer of WWE and now they're pairing him up with a girl named Lana. It fits.
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on May 25, 2015 19:26:16 GMT -5
Finally just finished watching last weeks RAW. Crowd was so hot for Ambrose, Ziggler, Lana, Owens. Overall a really good show.
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