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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2015 18:07:45 GMT -5
Now it appears Skrtel's getting low-balled on his contract. Great, the one thing that needed to happen is for there to be a reason for the defensive mainstay to leave the club. FFS.
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Post by AV1 on Jun 4, 2015 4:00:45 GMT -5
Pleased with James Milner. Bit of experience for the side.
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Post by Hammersmith Hardman on Jun 4, 2015 4:43:00 GMT -5
Got to be the most predictable transfer ever. Will link up very well with the rest of Liverpool's midfield.
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Post by Brunt's Left Foot on Jun 4, 2015 6:20:56 GMT -5
Dick Advocaat WILL continue as Sunderland manager after all. Strange u-turn but I imagine a lot of people will be happy with it.
I'm pleased actually, I like the guy.
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Post by Hammersmith Hardman on Jun 4, 2015 6:31:13 GMT -5
Got the feeling he wasn't keen on a 3 year deal, and who can blame him? 3 years for a 68 year old is too long. 1 year suits both parties, gives us time to look for someone new and Dick to carry on what he did before finally heading into the sunset. I'm ecstatic, tbh.
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Post by Himmy! on Jun 4, 2015 7:08:45 GMT -5
One thing that worries me about that Pete is, if you still need an overhaul of players that isn't likely to happen this summer now if it's only a one year deal for Dick. I may be wrong but it still doesn't look very stable to potential signings. I'm assuming Dick won't be making the signings himself though? That may be something.
Still. It's the best appointment for the time being I think.
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Post by Hammersmith Hardman on Jun 4, 2015 7:14:04 GMT -5
One thing that worries me about that Pete is, if you still need an overhaul of players that isn't likely to happen this summer now if it's only a one year deal for Dick. I may be wrong but it still doesn't look very stable to potential signings. I'm assuming Dick won't be making the signings himself though? That may be something. Still. It's the best appointment for the time being I think. Yeah we have a sporting director who does that. Now, i'm not convinced with him, mind. But overall it's down to the Manager's go ahead surely.
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Post by Himmy! on Jun 4, 2015 7:49:10 GMT -5
One thing that worries me about that Pete is, if you still need an overhaul of players that isn't likely to happen this summer now if it's only a one year deal for Dick. I may be wrong but it still doesn't look very stable to potential signings. I'm assuming Dick won't be making the signings himself though? That may be something. Still. It's the best appointment for the time being I think. Yeah we have a sporting director who does that. Now, i'm not convinced with him, mind. But overall it's down to the Manager's go ahead surely. You'd think so. Basically I'm just saying Sunderland's problems the past few seasons seem more deep rooted than the manager. The past few managers have started well but then it's gone tits up. Hopefully Dick bucks the trend though.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2015 8:51:18 GMT -5
Glad Milner is signed, figured it was coming but hey, nothing till it's set in stone. Ings, another striker perhaps, a RB, and backup goalie are all what I'm hoping for next.
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Post by Dan on Jun 4, 2015 21:17:40 GMT -5
United will run us very close, could go either way. City will be more of the same as this Season, only waiting on Guardiola's arrival next Summer. Expecting Spurs to be slightly better than they were this year though. In terms of relagtion, Watford, Leicester and Sunderland are my picks. Liverpool could have a shocking Season.
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Post by Brunt's Left Foot on Jun 5, 2015 9:02:05 GMT -5
United will run us very close, could go either way. City will be more of the same as this Season, only waiting on Guardiola's arrival next Summer. Expecting Spurs to be slightly better than they were this year though. In terms of relagtion, Watford, Leicester and Sunderland are my picks. Liverpool could have a shocking Season.....shocking good or shocking bad?
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Post by Mike Giggs' Munchies on Jun 6, 2015 6:26:03 GMT -5
I wrote down what transfers I wanted last week, I'll dig them up and post them in a miute for you lot to praise me/rip me to shreds. In the meantime, one of those ridiculously early predictions things:
1. Chelsea 2. Manchester United 3. Manchester City 4. Arsenal 5. Tottenham 6. Liverpool 7. Stoke 8. Everton 9. Southampton 10. Crystal Palace 11. Swansea 12. Aston Villa 13. Newcastle 14. West Ham 15. Norwich 16. Watford 17. Sunderland 18. West Brom 19. AFC Bournemouth 20. Leicester City
Bottom half MUCH harder than the top half. I tend to do it 'bottom up' after the top 8 judging by who is the worst rather than who is too good to go down.
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Post by Mike Giggs' Munchies on Jun 6, 2015 6:29:40 GMT -5
Here's my transfer hopes. I am assuming that the widely-reported figure of £150m is correct, and that I can use any sales to bolster my budget. So, here goes… In: Depay (PSV) – £22mIt would be churlish not to include the deal that is already done, but as it happens this would be first on my to-buy list anyway. A brilliant young player with clear similarities to Ronaldo (though obviously no expectation to reach that high a level). Just what we need, and a typical United signing. Between him and Mata we’ll have two of the deadliest free kick takers in the world too. In: Hummels (Dortmund) – £35mReally the perfect fit. Not the best season last year, but his quality is not in doubt. His age provides the perfect balance of experience and youth required for our back line. A no-brainer from our end. In: Alves (Barcelona) – Free (apart from the wages!) Sign him on a two-year contract and squeeze out the last of his top-flight talent before letting him move to Qatar or the USA. The lack of a fee allows spending to be done elsewhere (and for those keeping up, I have £93m left to play with). After he leaves either sign Clyne or whoever the new bright young thing at right back is. Out: Falcao (Monaco) – Free (but at least we get rid of the wages!) I, like most United fans, am sad to see him go – he wasn’t that bad at first (just rusty), but the intense criticism really got him down and by the end he was pretty poor. I’m still convinced he’ll be a top class striker again elsewhere, though he probably won’t quite reach his previous heights. Out: Evans (Sunderland) – £8mI like Evans, and will also be sad to see him go, but he really has struggled the past couple of years. He wasn’t given enough credit for his strong performances in Fergie’s last 2 years, but there’s no denying his fall from grace since SAF left. I can definitely see Sunderland coughing up for him, especially as he’s popular with the fans after a previous loan spell. In: Lacazette (Lyon) – £25mSparkling form in Ligue Un, and although we’ve seen this kind of thing end in disaster before, he really does have potential. He can be understudy to Wayne for a year or two before leading the line after Rooney either gets dropped or moves into midfield. Another youthful, talented, mid-range price, United-esque purchase. Out: Wilson (Sunderland) – LoanI’ve sent Wilson to Sunderland because of our good relationship and past history with them, but any top-tier club would be excellent for his development. Out: Januzaj (Real Sociedad) – Loan Don’t know why we didn’t do this in January. Our acm area is stacked right now and Adnan needs gametime. Would have a great education in Spain and Moyes would give him discipline whilst allowing him to flourish when possible. In: Gundogan (Dortmund) – £25mNot a perfect replacement for Carrick, and he may not even start when everyone is fit (depending on form etc.), but seems to have recovered from his injury and has shown real talent in his career so far. Out: Cleverly (Everton) - FreeI think he'll do well for Everton, and that he's a decent signing for him. Hope he does well with the spotlight much less bright now. Out: Smalling (Spurs) – £16mI know he’s had a good season, but I still don’t believe he can get much better – unlike Jones, who would be able to settle down as a CB once and for all in this squad. I’d rather sell Rojo but as he’s only been with us for a year, this seems more likely. Spurs could do with a decent centre back and would probably enjoy the opportunity to buy British (and therefore home grown). Out: RVP (Juventus) – £5mWe like you Robin, and you did exactly what we bought you for, but its time to let go. He’s been infuriating to watch this season. I’m happy to have Chicha as a third choice striker for another year, although if we had a good offer for him it wouldn’t be the end of the world holding RVP in reserve until his contract expires. I’d rather get rid though. In: Eder Alvarez Balanta - £20mI wanted Laporte but I assume that is done for this summer now he's signed a new contract. Balanta is a top young prospect and a bit cheaper - he's great on Football Manager too ;[ I just really want to secure some top young defensive talent, and Varane/Laporte/Marquinhos are all locked up. He's a left footer too which is helpful. And, if necessary, two more: Out: De Gea (Real Madrid) – £30mThis would be awful, but unfortunately seems increasingly inevitable. The worst part is that we paid £20m for him in the first place – a £10m profit on a player that has transformed so much is really a huge disappointment for us. In: Lloris (Tottenham) – £30mUnfortunately a lot of the top young goalkeeping talent (Ter Stegen, Courtouis etc.) moved last summer (or returned to their parent club in Courtouis’ case), so this is not the ideal time to buy. It makes me sick that Lloris, a very good but not as good as De Gea goalkeeper, would cost the same if not more. But unfortunately that’s the way the cookie crumbles. If we can find another young, top goalkeeper (Football Manager recommends Simone Scuffet or Gerónimo Rulli) then go for it. So, in summary, here would be my new squad: First XI (4-2-3-1):
De Gea/Lloris
Alves --- Hummels --- Balanta --- Shaw
Carrick --- Herrera
ADM --- Mata --- Depay
Rooney Bench:
Valdes
Jones
Rojo
Blind
Gundogan
Fellaini
Lacazette
Squad:
Lindegaard
Valencia
Rafael (assuming we can’t shift him)
Blackett
McNair
Young
Nani (ditto Rafael)
Perriera
Chicharito
Six or seven in (depending on DDG) and seven or eight out (including loans); more if we can sell Rafael and Nani. I also believe I have £40m left to spare – enough to get another fairly big deal through if necessary. That said, I think this squad could achieve our aims this season and then crack on to win the league in 16/17 when it would have had time to settle, and young players (Depay, Laporte etc.) would have had time to grow.
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Post by Brunt's Left Foot on Jun 6, 2015 10:02:09 GMT -5
I wrote down what transfers I wanted last week, I'll dig them up and post them in a miute for you lot to praise me/rip me to shreds. In the meantime, one of those ridiculously early predictions things: 1. Chelsea 2. Manchester United 3. Manchester City 4. Arsenal 5. Tottenham 6. Liverpool 7. Stoke 8. Everton 9. Southampton 10. Crystal Palace 11. Swansea 12. Aston Villa 13. Newcastle 14. West Ham 15. Norwich 16. Watford 17. Sunderland 18. West Brom 19. AFC Bournemouth 20. Leicester City Bottom half MUCH harder than the top half. I tend to do it 'bottom up' after the top 8 judging by who is the worst rather than who is too good to go down.How'd you end up with that bottom 3 then? How do you end up rating Leicester or West Brom worse than Newcastle or Sunderland? And how is Bournemouth worse than Norwich or Watford? Honestly it seems more the opposite of what you said. It reads more like you did in fact base it off of 'too good to go down' rather than who is better, which can really only be assessed based off of the end of last season.
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Post by Himmy! on Jun 6, 2015 10:05:53 GMT -5
There's no way Tony Pulis is taking West Brom down as far as I'm concerned. The squad does need a lot of improvement though.
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Post by Brunt's Left Foot on Jun 6, 2015 10:17:19 GMT -5
Here's my transfer hopes. I am assuming that the widely-reported figure of £150m is correct, and that I can use any sales to bolster my budget. So, here goes… In: Depay (PSV) – £22mIt would be churlish not to include the deal that is already done, but as it happens this would be first on my to-buy list anyway. A brilliant young player with clear similarities to Ronaldo (though obviously no expectation to reach that high a level). Just what we need, and a typical United signing. Between him and Mata we’ll have two of the deadliest free kick takers in the world too. In: Hummels (Dortmund) – £35mReally the perfect fit. Not the best season last year, but his quality is not in doubt. His age provides the perfect balance of experience and youth required for our back line. A no-brainer from our end. In: Alves (Barcelona) – Free (apart from the wages!) Sign him on a two-year contract and squeeze out the last of his top-flight talent before letting him move to Qatar or the USA. The lack of a fee allows spending to be done elsewhere (and for those keeping up, I have £93m left to play with). After he leaves either sign Clyne or whoever the new bright young thing at right back is. Out: Falcao (Monaco) – Free (but at least we get rid of the wages!) I, like most United fans, am sad to see him go – he wasn’t that bad at first (just rusty), but the intense criticism really got him down and by the end he was pretty poor. I’m still convinced he’ll be a top class striker again elsewhere, though he probably won’t quite reach his previous heights. Out: Evans (Sunderland) – £8mI like Evans, and will also be sad to see him go, but he really has struggled the past couple of years. He wasn’t given enough credit for his strong performances in Fergie’s last 2 years, but there’s no denying his fall from grace since SAF left. I can definitely see Sunderland coughing up for him, especially as he’s popular with the fans after a previous loan spell. In: Lacazette (Lyon) – £25mSparkling form in Ligue Un, and although we’ve seen this kind of thing end in disaster before, he really does have potential. He can be understudy to Wayne for a year or two before leading the line after Rooney either gets dropped or moves into midfield. Another youthful, talented, mid-range price, United-esque purchase. Out: Wilson (Sunderland) – LoanI’ve sent Wilson to Sunderland because of our good relationship and past history with them, but any top-tier club would be excellent for his development. Out: Januzaj (Real Sociedad) – Loan Don’t know why we didn’t do this in January. Our acm area is stacked right now and Adnan needs gametime. Would have a great education in Spain and Moyes would give him discipline whilst allowing him to flourish when possible. In: Gundogan (Dortmund) – £25mNot a perfect replacement for Carrick, and he may not even start when everyone is fit (depending on form etc.), but seems to have recovered from his injury and has shown real talent in his career so far. Out: Smalling (Spurs) – £16mI know he’s had a good season, but I still don’t believe he can get much better – unlike Jones, who would be able to settle down as a CB once and for all in this squad. I’d rather sell Rojo but as he’s only been with us for a year, this seems more likely. Spurs could do with a decent centre back and would probably enjoy the opportunity to buy British (and therefore home grown). Out: RVP (Juventus) – £5mWe like you Robin, and you did exactly what we bought you for, but its time to let go. He’s been infuriating to watch this season. I’m happy to have Chicha as a third choice striker for another year, although if we had a good offer for him it wouldn’t be the end of the world holding RVP in reserve until his contract expires. I’d rather get rid though. In: Eder Alvarez Balanta - £20mI wanted Laporte but I assume that is done for this summer now he's signed a new contract. Balanta is a top young prospect and a bit cheaper - he's great on Football Manager too ;[ I just really want to secure some top young defensive talent, and Varane/Laporte/Marquinhos are all locked up. He's a left footer too which is helpful. And, if necessary, two more: Out: De Gea (Real Madrid) – £30mThis would be awful, but unfortunately seems increasingly inevitable. The worst part is that we paid £20m for him in the first place – a £10m profit on a player that has transformed so much is really a huge disappointment for us. In: Lloris (Tottenham) – £30mUnfortunately a lot of the top young goalkeeping talent (Ter Stegen, Courtouis etc.) moved last summer (or returned to their parent club in Courtouis’ case), so this is not the ideal time to buy. It makes me sick that Lloris, a very good but not as good as De Gea goalkeeper, would cost the same if not more. But unfortunately that’s the way the cookie crumbles. If we can find another young, top goalkeeper (Football Manager recommends Simone Scuffet or Gerónimo Rulli) then go for it. So, in summary, here would be my new squad: First XI (4-2-3-1):
De Gea/Lloris
Alves --- Hummels --- Balanta --- Shaw
Carrick --- Herrera
ADM --- Mata --- Depay
Rooney Bench:
Valdes
Jones
Rojo
Blind
Gundogan
Fellaini
Lacazette
Squad:
Lindegaard
Valencia
Rafael (assuming we can’t shift him)
Blackett
McNair
Young
Nani (ditto Rafael)
Perriera
Chicharito
Six or seven in (depending on DDG) and six or seven out (including loans); more if we can sell Rafael, Cleverley and Nani. I also believe I have £40m left to spare – enough to get another fairly big deal through if necessary. That said, I think this squad could achieve our aims this season and then crack on to win the league in 16/17 when it would have had time to settle, and young players (Depay, Laporte etc.) would have had time to grow. Rumour mills seem to suggest Lacazette to PSG and Gundogan to Bayern are more likely than either of them to United. There's no chance Smalling leaves. Lloris seems like he is going to stay with Spurs - Cech actually seems a more likely option. Would some of your top performers from last season really just become bench/squad players? It would seem mightily harsh for example to not even include Ashley Young on the bench given that he was probably your best outfield player last season. I actually think United's XI for the start of next season might look more like this: Cech Alves - Otamendi - Smalling - Shaw Carrick - Blind Young - Mata - Depay Rooney LVG doesn't seem too in love with Herrera or Di Maria. I could see both on the bench until they're needed. Your picks are mostly realistic though. At least there's no mention of Ronaldo, Bale, Vidal or Pogba. Also, Mata one of the best FK takers in the world? Is he? I know he's hit a few great ones over the years but he's never been a regular taker/scorer of them. It'd be a bit like saying Kolarov and Seb Larsson are two of the best FK takers in the world. Also, Cleverley has joined Everton on a free. You must have missed that.
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Post by Brunt's Left Foot on Jun 6, 2015 10:46:45 GMT -5
There's no way Tony Pulis is taking West Brom down as far as I'm concerned. The squad does need a lot of improvement though. Yeah well the only way I see us going down next season is if TP isn't there. And given that we basically gave in to his demands when he first joined, I can't see why he wouldn't get what he wants this summer. Plus if he were to walk out again, he'll end up getting a reputation as a manager who's difficult to work with. I don't think Pulis would want or deserve that. The squad needs some major improvements. Full-backs and wingers seem to be the priority, as well as another striker to partner Berahino. We may also need another CB and another ST depending on who else leaves. A GK wouldn't go amiss either given that Foster is out for a while. The long talked about takeover might have a big part to play as well. Here's how I hope it goes: OUTS - Brown Ideye, Sebastien Pocognoli, Cristian Gamboa, Stephane Sessegnon, Georgios Samaras, Sebastian Blanco INS - Glen Johnson (free), Micah Richards (free), Bakary Sako (free), Matt Phillips (£5m QPR), Andre Pierre-Gignac (free) A bit optimistic but definitely possible.
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Post by Himmy! on Jun 6, 2015 10:49:42 GMT -5
Surely you wouldn't sign both Johnson and Richards? Unless Richards is going to play inside or Johnson on the left. They would be some very good signings though! Totally confident in Tony. Still wish he was our manager .
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Post by Brunt's Left Foot on Jun 6, 2015 11:25:16 GMT -5
Surely you wouldn't sign both Johnson and Richards? Unless Richards is going to play inside or Johnson on the left. They would be some very good signings though! Totally confident in Tony. Still wish he was our manager . TBF we could do with more than just 2 fullbacks so signing both would be good. But you're right that we'd need a LB. I just couldn't think of one that was a realistic get and who was half decent. Either way, I doubt we'd get Glen Johnson. He's definitely the least likely target out of the ones I listed. If he stays in the Prem, West Ham looks the most likely destination.
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Post by Himmy! on Jun 6, 2015 12:00:58 GMT -5
Surely you wouldn't sign both Johnson and Richards? Unless Richards is going to play inside or Johnson on the left. They would be some very good signings though! Totally confident in Tony. Still wish he was our manager . TBF we could do with more than just 2 fullbacks so signing both would be good. But you're right that we'd need a LB. I just couldn't think of one that was a realistic get and who was half decent. Either way, I doubt we'd get Glen Johnson. He's definitely the least likely target out of the ones I listed. If he stays in the Prem, West Ham looks the most likely destination. Johnson is garbage. I can't see Pulis going for him because apart from going forward he doesn't offer very much.
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