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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2015 22:39:34 GMT -5
ZZ is...a curious case. I don't know if he should win, because I think that if you a guy like Tanner in the performance center right away, he kills it. But a guy like ZZ would get lost in the in-ring shuffle. I voted ZZ because Mada was just there. He was a big guy. That's it. Amanda is far and away the most bland and probably worst girl. If ZZ ends up sticking around long enough, I still say 100% send him to Booker in Houston and give him training where he can have his hand held through the basics. ZZ is also just 18. With his charisma, he could easily spend two years working RoW with Booker, get signed by WWE, spend a year before NXT TV, another year and a half with the NXT TV exposure, and still not hit 25. Looking five years down the road, I can see ZZ in NXT, I can't see Amanda, I don't see Mada. That's just how it is.
Also, Mada. Hogan liked him because he's straight out of the 80s. An Egyptian king? That's 80s heel gimmick. You put him against a half-decent guy and he gets ripped to shreds promo-wise because, quite honestly, he's not very good. Patrick showed that. I wouldn't pay to see him, I wouldn't pay to see a face beat him, and in 2015 I don't know anyone that would. But he's eliminated, so none of this matters.
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Post by J12 on Jul 28, 2015 23:08:07 GMT -5
ZZ is a great personality who could probably make some reality network a lot of money, but it's clear he has no place being in a WWE ring.
But, then again, no one left seems to truly "want it" anyway. I have no vested interest in anyone on the show at this point, so I don't really care who wins. If they make something of themselves, great. If not, it'll just be exactly what we all expected.
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Post by Planktung on Jul 28, 2015 23:09:44 GMT -5
At this point for the males, I want Josh to win. With Patrick no longer in the competition, Josh is the only guy remaining who I could see actually going far on the main roster. He's a giant with a good look to him. The foundation is there and I'm sure that at the Performance Center and in NXT, he would gain the necessary tools and be able to polish them.
For the girls, Sara is admittedly my favorite and I want her to win, but I do think that GiGi or Chelsea probably should win. Sara's already popular among viewers and will get a contract down the line with or without Tough Enough. Maybe training her to eventually take over Renee Young's current role could be an option for her.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2015 23:38:55 GMT -5
So if he shouldn't win it all..WHY VOTE FOR HIM? Because you're sure as hell helping him win it all... At the end of the day Mada>ZZ. He shouldn't win. Mada shouldn't win. Amanda shouldn't win. If none of them should win, then I'll vote for the one I like the most, which is ZZ. Simple math. Its unbelievable how this is a popularity contest.. It should be based off of the challenges and ring work. Mada excelled better than ZZ at both things... but you vote for ZZ because you "like" him. The guy is just laughable.. he should feel embarrassed after being called out by everyone at the barracks. Once this kid wins everyone is gonna complain but it's because you guys keep voting for this untalented kid
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Post by facemeat on Jul 29, 2015 2:22:44 GMT -5
He shouldn't win. Mada shouldn't win. Amanda shouldn't win. If none of them should win, then I'll vote for the one I like the most, which is ZZ. Simple math. Its unbelievable how this is a popularity contest.. It should be based off of the challenges and ring work. Mada excelled better than ZZ at both things... but you vote for ZZ because you "like" him. The guy is just laughable.. he should feel embarrassed after being called out by everyone at the barracks. Once this kid wins everyone is gonna complain but it's because you guys keep voting for this untalented kid I'm sure I'll be bashed for this, but I for one would actually like it if ZZ won. I could see him having a nice little role as a comedy jobber. The other two remaining guys, I just can't see in any role. The midcard is already stacked with talent; there's no need for Josh or Tanner. I can all but guarantee that whoever wins this show isn't going to become some megastar, so I'd prefer a unique guy with a relatively low ceiling over some bland guy who will probably get a brief midcard push at best before either blending in with the crowd or being released.
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Post by Brad on Jul 29, 2015 3:14:35 GMT -5
Mada shouldn't have went home. That's for sure. Can't believe Miz F'd that up He didn't F that up, Mada shouldn't have went home, I agree. But who the hell are you gonna use the save on? The Miz said screw it and he saved Amanda because she's not bad.. she has personality and the looks and can learn in the ring You must be a big Miz fan.
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Post by King Silva on Jul 29, 2015 3:15:39 GMT -5
Eww comedy jobbers are ing worthless.. I actually think Josh could go far because he has the look and apparently Vince loves him. I'm not saying he'll be a world champion in a year but with 2 years or so of training I could see him doing good things in NXT and then if he works there then the main roster. If not then he can released but I'd much rather have someone like him in the company than ZZ who is just not worth $250,000 let alone $250.. As for Tanner I could see him being a mid carder and or tag team wrestler in NXT if he gets the proper training. Just like Josh he is athletic and I could for sure see him dedicating his life to this business which is a much better than ZZ based off of these last 5 weeks.
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Post by Brad on Jul 29, 2015 3:16:03 GMT -5
ZZ is...a curious case. I don't know if he should win, because I think that if you a guy like Tanner in the performance center right away, he kills it. But a guy like ZZ would get lost in the in-ring shuffle. I voted ZZ because Mada was just there. He was a big guy. That's it. Amanda is far and away the most bland and probably worst girl. If ZZ ends up sticking around long enough, I still say 100% send him to Booker in Houston and give him training where he can have his hand held through the basics. ZZ is also just 18. With his charisma, he could easily spend two years working RoW with Booker, get signed by WWE, spend a year before NXT TV, another year and a half with the NXT TV exposure, and still not hit 25. Looking five years down the road, I can see ZZ in NXT, I can't see Amanda, I don't see Mada. That's just how it is. Also, Mada. Hogan liked him because he's straight out of the 80s. An Egyptian king? That's 80s heel gimmick. You put him against a half-decent guy and he gets ripped to shreds promo-wise because, quite honestly, he's not very good. Patrick showed that. I wouldn't pay to see him, I wouldn't pay to see a face beat him, and in 2015 I don't know anyone that would. But he's eliminated, so none of this matters. Good points here. And this comes from someone who doesn't like ZZ
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Post by King Silva on Jul 29, 2015 3:24:52 GMT -5
You know what I'm really pissed that Hogan's crazy drama didn't come to everyone's attention 1 week or so before it did. Had that happened Miz would have been the replacement judge again just starting with the episode that Patrick was eliminated. Had that happened Miz would have surely saved Patrick from elimination. Hopefully Miz would have picked ZZ to be in the bottom 3, since he was again deserving and that is what Hogan did, because Josh got 3% points or so more than ZZ meaning had Miz used his save on Patrick we would have seen ZZ go home instead of Patrick. So you Hogan for ruining the best top 4 guys this season could have had: Patrick vs Josh vs Tanner vs Mada
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Post by @HartAttvcks on Jul 29, 2015 4:04:12 GMT -5
Josh : BEAST, excelling in the ring and at challanges. Is YOUNG, Very likable and has a marketable look, ladies and children would adore this guy. He has shown the passion, he has lost an astounding amount of weight. The people already in NXT seem to like him as well. He has everything this show is looking for. YOU CAN GET THE MOST OUT OF HIM!
GiGi : smoking hot, this woman is delightful and a sweetheart. She's proven to be the most physically and mentally capable. She is also a very marketable woman. She has the look, and the abillity to keep up, she's a reallly fast learner and is very well liked.
What do you get out of ZZ and Sara? People geniuenly dislike the both of them. Casual fans arent voting for him, idiot kids and people who don't frequent the product are. And the prepubescent teenage boys, people who think they have a shot with her, and sick freaks are voting for Sara. She sucks and has underpreformed out of all the girls - believe it or not #EliminateSaraLeeParty trended last week.
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Post by King Silva on Jul 29, 2015 4:23:45 GMT -5
Josh : BEAST, excelling in the ring and at challanges. Is YOUNG, Very likable and has a marketable look, ladies and children would adore this guy. He has shown the passion, he has lost an astounding amount of weight. The people already in NXT seem to like him as well. He has everything this show is looking for. YOU CAN GET THE MOST OUT OF HIM! GiGi : smoking hot, this woman is delightful and a sweetheart. She's proven to be the most physically and mentally capable. She is also a very marketable woman. She has the look, and the ability to keep up, she's a really fast learner and is very well liked. What do you get out of ZZ and Sara? People genially dislike the both of them. Casual fans aren't voting for him, idiot kids and people who don't frequent the product are. And the prepubescent teenage boys, people who think they have a shot with her, and sick freaks are voting for Sara. She sucks and has underperformed out of all the girls - believe it or not #EliminateSaraLeeParty trended last week. Josh and GiGi both winning would be the best case scenario and ZZ and Sara would be the worst case scenario. Hopefully we at least get one good winner with it being: ZZ/GiGi or Josh/Sara. Either way I see Josh and GiGi getting signed and doing more than ZZ or Sara in the WWE but they really would deserve to take the $250,000 contracts and forever be known as official winners of Tough Enough.
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Post by Angel Beast on Jul 29, 2015 4:35:30 GMT -5
I missed who the saved Amada causing Mada to go home? what the ?! Miz. I really hope he isn't a judge again. What a waste.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2015 5:41:36 GMT -5
I was curious about Tough Talk considering Hogan's departure, and I was quite bummed that Mada is gone...great fire from him...
This show brings me back to Jerry Springer times...
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Jul 29, 2015 7:00:13 GMT -5
Its unbelievable how this is a popularity contest.. It should be based off of the challenges and ring work. Mada excelled better than ZZ at both things... but you vote for ZZ because you "like" him. The guy is just laughable.. he should feel embarrassed after being called out by everyone at the barracks. Once this kid wins everyone is gonna complain but it's because you guys keep voting for this untalented kid I'm sure I'll be bashed for this, but I for one would actually like it if ZZ won. I could see him having a nice little role as a comedy jobber. The other two remaining guys, I just can't see in any role. The midcard is already stacked with talent; there's no need for Josh or Tanner. I can all but guarantee that whoever wins this show isn't going to become some megastar, so I'd prefer a unique guy with a relatively low ceiling over some bland guy who will probably get a brief midcard push at best before either blending in with the crowd or being released. I see more in ZZ than Amanda or Mada. Calm down and stop freaking out. Last week, I voted for Patrick and not ZZ. I vote for whole I think should stay that particular week. This week just happened to he ZZ. I've voted for Sara more than him. Chill.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2015 7:01:45 GMT -5
He didn't F that up, Mada shouldn't have went home, I agree. But who the hell are you gonna use the save on? The Miz said screw it and he saved Amanda because she's not bad.. she has personality and the looks and can learn in the ring You must be a big Miz fan. On Tough Enough? Yeah, because D-Bry and Him are the only ones that know what they're doing. Am I the only one that's glad he replaced HH? In the ring, I don't care for him
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Jul 29, 2015 7:03:52 GMT -5
Josh : BEAST, excelling in the ring and at challanges. Is YOUNG, Very likable and has a marketable look, ladies and children would adore this guy. He has shown the passion, he has lost an astounding amount of weight. The people already in NXT seem to like him as well. He has everything this show is looking for. YOU CAN GET THE MOST OUT OF HIM! GiGi : smoking hot, this woman is delightful and a sweetheart. She's proven to be the most physically and mentally capable. She is also a very marketable woman. She has the look, and the abillity to keep up, she's a reallly fast learner and is very well liked. What do you get out of ZZ and Sara? People geniuenly dislike the both of them. Casual fans arent voting for him, idiot kids and people who don't frequent the product are. And the prepubescent teenage boys, people who think they have a shot with her, and sick freaks are voting for Sara. She sucks and has underpreformed out of all the girls - believe it or not #EliminateSaraLeeParty trended last week. If ZZ and Sara keep staying then it means people like them. The difference is that the people who like them, just like them. The people who dislike them spend a huge chunk of their time and effort to cry about them online and start trends online. Maybe instead of wasting time bitching and starting anti-Sara trends they should start positive trends for the people they like. Also, if I vote for Sara it doesn't make me some freak who thinks I have a shot with her. That's another sad attempt by the anti ZZ and Sara crowd to make excuses. Calm down.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2015 7:05:24 GMT -5
You know what I'm really pissed that Hogan's crazy drama didn't come to everyone's attention 1 week or so before it did. Had that happened Miz would have been the replacement judge again just starting with the episode that Patrick was eliminated. Had that happened Miz would have surely saved Patrick from elimination. Hopefully Miz would have picked ZZ to be in the bottom 3, since he was again deserving and that is what Hogan did, because Josh got 3% points or so more than ZZ meaning had Miz used his save on Patrick we would have seen ZZ go home instead of Patrick. So you Hogan for ruining the best top 4 guys this season could have had: Patrick vs Josh vs Tanner vs Mada I agree 100% .. The whole save crap is pointless now because they two best people are out.. I got so furious when The Miz said he wanted to save Patrick because if he was the judge last week if would've been a whole different episode.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2015 7:10:40 GMT -5
What a load of utter b******s! I'm done with this show, I can't watch it any more.
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Post by WWE Common Terry on Jul 29, 2015 8:44:25 GMT -5
Guys... guys... guys... The outcome was per-determined from day 1. Don't get too worked up over it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2015 8:44:37 GMT -5
Mada is 28. Wow.
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