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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2015 20:25:02 GMT -5
They let Lesnar unleash the beast by ending Daniel Bryan's career and Ziggler a wee lad busted himself open trying to head but this blinding white alien superman sheamus. I don't know if you didn't see me quote your postX I'm not sure what Lesnar did to Bryan either. My bad sheamus. Lol sorry I guess when I typed beast I just wriite Brock lol my bad.
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Post by BoJack Hogan on Jun 16, 2015 22:16:10 GMT -5
I'm into it. Part of the problem has been bad booking. The feud with Zigs was good, but the 'Kiss me Arse' aspect ruined it. From a logic standpoint why would this big Celtic Viking give a rat's @$$ about having someone kiss his @$$? It's stupid garbage. The feud itself would've been much better without that, or the revenge. It was one of those embarrassing wrestling moments that you don't want non-fans to see. Then with his crafty business in the EC he should've won. Ryback may be over, but they clearly have bigger plans for Sheamus. If they want to keep these guys strong they have no business putting them in matches where they are made to look weak. It's just like the whole Reigns/Wyatt debacle from several weeks ago where Reigns beat Wyatt after three matches when he could've just beaten Kane or Big Show. Why are we supposed to believe a fresh Reigns is going to have an ounce of trouble with Wyatt if an exhausted Reigns just beat him. Another example, Barrett - the poster boy. He's champ/king, then loses every freaking match until the title/crown is on the line. EVERY FREAKING MATCH! This is similar to whats going on with Sheamus. I have high hopes that the MITB win is a turning point for him, because I'm seriously into everything about this new character, even the stupid hair actually works because Sheamus himself plays his role to perfection. That's what is ultimately keeping this thing interesting, he's clearly completely invested in his character. He just needs to be booked better.
Although if you never liked him or don't like his style, chances are you won't like this either.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Jun 16, 2015 22:58:16 GMT -5
I think the problem is when Sheamus came back and attacked Bryan and Ziggler, he should have never once spoke on the microphone. He should have just came out every week and dominated and beat guys up like he did in 2009 when he came up to Raw from ECW.
Sheamus winning MITB is cool if it means he faces Lesnar. I've wanted to see that match for quite some time now. Both men are big, and would hit hard and throw each other around. It would be fun to see.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2015 23:15:07 GMT -5
I agree they book Sheamus poorly. He's a comedic character one week and then they try to make him seem like a badass legit threat the next.
You can't have him trying to get Dolph Ziggler to kiss his arse one week and then be taken seriously the next. It doesn't work that way.
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Post by POOR-ly Cuyler on Jun 16, 2015 23:15:11 GMT -5
Its not really bandwagon hating.... Some of us just don't care for Sheamus O'Limey
Is he Irish? I can't tell.....
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Post by HHH316 on Jun 16, 2015 23:31:39 GMT -5
I'm happier with heel Sheamus than I ever was with face Sheamus
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Post by Slim on Jun 17, 2015 0:07:23 GMT -5
He should act like a beast
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2015 0:46:11 GMT -5
Man if all these people hanging on Sheamuses nuts would have bought his figure... I have bought loads of his figures and several T-shirts too. Count me in as a "nut hanger"......
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2015 0:49:03 GMT -5
I couldn't disagree more. In fact, I'd dislike this post if I could. Also, I find it hilarious how some of the haters are the ones taking shots at the Sheamus fans with snide comments. I mean, how much more pathetic can you get to insult a fan who likes something you don't? Yup its really pathetic man. But that's how the ignorant work Joe......they make smartass, smark, snide sh*tty comments because they cant type something legit to back up their "waaaaahhh waaahhhh" opinion
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2015 0:49:29 GMT -5
Man if all these people hanging on Sheamuses nuts would have bought his figure... I have two Elites and a shirt, I love Sheamus.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2015 1:14:48 GMT -5
Its not really bandwagon hating.... Some of us just don't care for Sheamus O'Limey Is he Irish? I can't tell..... Its absolutely not bandwagon hating. The guy isn't marketable at all. We get it. He's a tough Irish fella who beats people up(sometimes). He's booked extremely poor most of the time and then they up and decide hey let's push him the following week for a little while and when it flops let's just turn him face(or heel because it's the same every time) and see if the fans give a damn then. Nothing's changed from his debut flop to now, aside from several unsuccessful turns and title opportunities. Everyone always claims he can work... Yet the names generally mentioned are names like oh sheamus vs Ziegler, vs Bryan, vs Cesaro, but no one ever seems to notice that those are guys who could make Zack gowen look good if they felt like it. The guy likely could have been something if they kept a damn microphone out of his hand and let him look like a bad ass... But no we are not entertained fella. He ing sucks.
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Post by WalterF on Jun 17, 2015 4:40:46 GMT -5
I like current Sheamus more, but it still feels like something isn't quite clicking, as far as his presentation, positioning and how he is booked to in in matches. I don't think it is his fault, but I think they need to make him MORE brutal and ruthless, almost Lesnaresque, for the character to really seem fully threatening
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2015 4:44:26 GMT -5
Its not really bandwagon hating.... Some of us just don't care for Sheamus O'Limey Is he Irish? I can't tell..... Its absolutely not bandwagon hating. The guy isn't marketable at all. We get it. He's a tough Irish fella who beats people up(sometimes). He's booked extremely poor most of the time and then they up and decide hey let's push him the following week for a little while and when it flops let's just turn him face(or heel because it's the same every time) and see if the fans give a damn then. Nothing's changed from his debut flop to now, aside from several unsuccessful turns and title opportunities. Everyone always claims he can work... Yet the names generally mentioned are names like oh sheamus vs Ziegler, vs Bryan, vs Cesaro, but no one ever seems to notice that those are guys who could make Zack gowen look good if they felt like it. The guy likely could have been something if they kept a damn microphone out of his hand and let him look like a bad ass... But no we are not entertained fella. He ing sucks.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2015 7:40:42 GMT -5
Its absolutely not bandwagon hating. The guy isn't marketable at all. We get it. He's a tough Irish fella who beats people up(sometimes). He's booked extremely poor most of the time and then they up and decide hey let's push him the following week for a little while and when it flops let's just turn him face(or heel because it's the same every time) and see if the fans give a damn then. Nothing's changed from his debut flop to now, aside from several unsuccessful turns and title opportunities. Everyone always claims he can work... Yet the names generally mentioned are names like oh sheamus vs Ziegler, vs Bryan, vs Cesaro, but no one ever seems to notice that those are guys who could make Zack gowen look good if they felt like it. The guy likely could have been something if they kept a damn microphone out of his hand and let him look like a bad ass... But no we are not entertained fella. He ing sucks. Excellent movie.
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Post by K5 on Jun 17, 2015 8:04:21 GMT -5
as others said, i've never liked a thing he's touched. pretty brutal talent if you ask me...
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Post by K5 on Jun 17, 2015 8:10:46 GMT -5
I couldn't disagree more. In fact, I'd dislike this post if I could. Also, I find it hilarious how some of the haters are the ones taking shots at the Sheamus fans with snide comments. I mean, how much more pathetic can you get to insult a fan who likes something you don't? that's happening both ways. don't make it an us vs them thing, a whopping majority of people simply do not like sheamus and the ones who like him seem displeased with this fact and quick to label it a bandwagon. look at my posts throughout the years - i have never once said i've liked sheamus or enjoyed what he's done. in fact, he's caught flack for years so why this is new to any sheamus fans is beyond me.
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Post by K5 on Jun 17, 2015 8:13:57 GMT -5
I couldn't disagree more. In fact, I'd dislike this post if I could. Also, I find it hilarious how some of the haters are the ones taking shots at the Sheamus fans with snide comments. I mean, how much more pathetic can you get to insult a fan who likes something you don't? Yup its really pathetic man. But that's how the ignorant work Joe......they make smartass, smark, snide sh*tty comments because they cant type something legit to back up their "waaaaahhh waaahhhh" opinion that is quite hypocritical of you there joker, as you're the one lashing out the most in this thread. people don't like sheamus - if calling it a bandwagon makes sheamus fans feel better, then so be it - but at the end of the day one of your favourites is disliked on the board and you and others seemingly cannot handle it.
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Post by marino13 on Jun 17, 2015 8:45:17 GMT -5
Man if all these people hanging on Sheamuses nuts would have bought his figure... I have bought loads of his figures and several T-shirts too. Count me in as a "nut hanger"...... Yeah I've bought several Sheamus figures over the years, so I'm not sure what the point was there. We can't buy em all.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2015 9:51:44 GMT -5
Yup its really pathetic man. But that's how the ignorant work Joe......they make smartass, smark, snide sh*tty comments because they cant type something legit to back up their "waaaaahhh waaahhhh" opinion that is quite hypocritical of you there joker, as you're the one lashing out the most in this thread. people don't like sheamus - if calling it a bandwagon makes sheamus fans feel better, then so be it - but at the end of the day one of your favourites is disliked on the board and you and others seemingly cannot handle it. Sorry K5 I haven't been lashing out at all.....some of the Sheamus hate has been quite unreasonable in this thread and Im calling them out. If you don't agree with it that's your problem. How an intelligent poster such as yourself could travel down this road and defend some of the rubbish(not peoples opinions that different.... if you were to read more closely you would see that) but the absolute mauling of reason here is odd to me. For instance in another Sheamus thread(that's on the front page) a guy laid out why he didn't find Sheamus entertaining.....I laid out a match or two and he said it wasn't for him and stated why......I said that was cool and said "different strokes for different folks". The guy wasn't losing his marbles on a keyboard talking about skintone and hair styles......so that renders your opinion of my "hypocrisy"(lol) null, void and absolutely redundant. BUT I will have to give you some allowance here as I remember back...... you often misunderstand and come to the rescue of the "little guy" when I'm involved. That's your gimmick.....I'm used to it by now and always find it amusing....your just playing your part.
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Post by K5 on Jun 17, 2015 10:41:20 GMT -5
that is quite hypocritical of you there joker, as you're the one lashing out the most in this thread. people don't like sheamus - if calling it a bandwagon makes sheamus fans feel better, then so be it - but at the end of the day one of your favourites is disliked on the board and you and others seemingly cannot handle it. Sorry K5 I haven't been lashing out at all.....some of the Sheamus hate has been quite unreasonable in this thread and Im calling them out. If you don't agree with it that's your problem. How an intelligent poster such as yourself could travel down this road and defend some of the rubbish(not peoples opinions that different.... if you were to read more closely you would see that) but the absolute mauling of reason here is odd to me. For instance in another Sheamus thread(that's on the front page) a guy laid out why he didn't find Sheamus entertaining.....I laid out a match or two and he said it wasn't for him and stated why......I said that was cool and said "different strokes for different folks". The guy wasn't losing his marbles on a keyboard talking about skintone and hair styles......so that renders your opinion of my "hypocrisy"(lol) null, void and absolutely redundant. BUT I will have to give you some allowance here as I remember back...... you often misunderstand and come to the rescue of the "little guy" when I'm involved. That's your gimmick.....I'm used to it by now and always find it amusing....your just playing your part. how is the hate unreasonable if it's their opinion? how is it instantaneously a bandwagon if people are tending to agree? 2/3 of the thread don't enjoy sheamus, yet it's the 1/3 that does that seems to be lashing out at anyone. do me a favour and quote one time other than the nut hanging comment where people are 'quite unreasonable' in this thread. skin tone and hair color is part of the look of a wrestler, which yes, is a huge part of their marketability and character. i was unaware that was my gimmick, but that's not the worst way of being perceived i suppose, so oh well. talk about making it needlessly personal...but whatever. i don't understand why it has to be a us vs them mentality as soon as people dislike something. people can hate sheamus if they want to...this is hardly the first thread where people are calling him a goofball. using one or two people's negative viewpoints as a basis for what the reasoning is behind a group of people's thoughts is incredibly small minded and in my opinion a way of undermining the true lack of popularity overall of sheamus (at least on this board).
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