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Post by King Silva on Jul 13, 2015 3:54:36 GMT -5
That was a hell of a death count. Pretty much. Damn I'm glad the three stars lived because I could have seen one of them at least take a shot or two. Other than the last ten minutes it wasn't the best episode imo.
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Post by Vamp55 on Jul 18, 2015 19:11:56 GMT -5
This show is awesome. I love it, and some of the best TV going on right now. I love the fact that it's tone is the same as the first season but, different story and actors. I hope they keep this format. I watched eps 1-4 in a row, and plan on doing the same with 5-8. Waiting sux, but I kinda like it like that. I did the same with season 1.... But I'm really loving this show.
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Post by Himmy! on Jul 19, 2015 12:31:28 GMT -5
Episode 4 was MUCH better. I'll stick it out now.
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Post by Word™ on Jul 20, 2015 2:20:31 GMT -5
While watching episode 5 tonight, I realized I don't care about these characters at all.. I thought I did, and when the pay offs started to show I'd be fully invested. But I wasn't..
I'll finish the season eventually.
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Post by punksnotdead on Jul 20, 2015 13:02:55 GMT -5
I felt like we got lots of meat on the bone last night. So the Russians, the Mayor's son, and Vince Vaughn's security guy are all in bed over girls, working with the psychiatrist, who I assume is now dead? And they're blackmailing people. We know the group ties back to childhood. We know the diamonds are significant, and seemingly linked to or with the missing girl. We know the fat cop was on someone's payroll to both protect the government officials and trail TKs character, since he was taking photos of him at the club. So we assume fat cop is working with the Mayor/Mayor's son, even though we were told the Mayor isn't aware of all the dealings.
We also know that RA's father is still a focal point, as she's familiar with the town where they found the cabin. So I'm guessing that he is old pals with all of these guys too.
Velcoro's issue with Vince Vaughn is more for suspense. I think they're both, ultimately, on the same side. Meaning, they both need to find out who killed Casper. Ruining Velcoro's life, well, that was just chess, sadly. What an unfortunate twist of misery though. As Vince Vaughn said though, crime is desire, and he gave Velcoro an outlet. I think we could find out Velcoro is actually his kids dad, honestly. The theme of children between those two is strong though.
We still don't know the motive for the murders, as they seemed to be ritual in nature and what did Vince Vaughn's guy have to do with anything? I'm guessing the heavy theme is blackmail, and on some level control of the railroad by high ranking rich men, but there is a single motivator that ties these characters all together that they aren't telling us.
Probably my favorite episode so far. It felt good to finally see some of the story come together, versus getting fragments of a mystery, which is the drawback of not waiting to watch all 8 episodes in a row.
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Post by cmiller79 on Jul 22, 2015 7:32:49 GMT -5
I just can't get into this season like I did season 1
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Post by jakksking1 on Jul 22, 2015 8:33:39 GMT -5
Season is pretty rough. I wouldn't say Vince Vaughn is horrible, but they have given him awful awful dialogue. His one liners are pretty terrible. That standoff with the Mexican Cowboy was hysterical though For Fun: worst lines this season www.vh1.com/news/39345/true-detective-season-2-worst-lines/
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Post by Himmy! on Jul 22, 2015 11:05:24 GMT -5
It is getting better. When you get over it isn't Season One and go with it, it isn't too bad. Things are picking up.
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Post by sonstuds on Jul 22, 2015 23:37:51 GMT -5
Season is pretty rough. I wouldn't say Vince Vaughn is horrible, but they have given him awful awful dialogue. His one liners are pretty terrible. That standoff with the Mexican Cowboy was hysterical though For Fun: worst lines this season www.vh1.com/news/39345/true-detective-season-2-worst-lines/The scenes with him and his wife are awful. Blue balls in our hearts, indeed.
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Post by jakksking1 on Jul 23, 2015 6:31:49 GMT -5
Season is pretty rough. I wouldn't say Vince Vaughn is horrible, but they have given him awful awful dialogue. His one liners are pretty terrible. That standoff with the Mexican Cowboy was hysterical though For Fun: worst lines this season www.vh1.com/news/39345/true-detective-season-2-worst-lines/The scenes with him and his wife are awful. Blue balls in our hearts, indeed. I think she is the killer. I don't know why yet, but there is no other reason to feature that terrible actress so much .
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Post by jakksking1 on Jul 27, 2015 13:00:42 GMT -5
I'm going with the skinny lieutenant who was first to arrive at the Velcori shooting scene as the killer
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Post by Mike Giggs' Munchies on Jul 27, 2015 14:01:56 GMT -5
Not reading any posts here, but I'm saving this for a binge. Probably all 8 episodes the weekend after it finishes. I loved binging S1 and I don't expect S2 to be as good but I am excited for it.
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Post by punksnotdead on Jul 28, 2015 9:04:02 GMT -5
Not reading any posts here, but I'm saving this for a binge. Probably all 8 episodes the weekend after it finishes. I loved binging S1 and I don't expect S2 to be as good but I am excited for it. I've enjoyed it quite a bit. People are really hung up on this season not being like last season and it's taking away from them enjoying what is, at least imo, a good season. This season has presented the actual crime and case differently than Season 1. The character development has come in spurts and we're 6 episodes in and still trying to unravel how the pieces all fit together. Collin Farrell has been PHENOMENAL imo. The Velcoro character is on par with the portrayals of Rust and Marty from S1, but he's sharing the spotlight and he's a totally different animal in terms of a tortured soul. The last three episodes have really made me love seeing the dynamic between the 3 main cop leads. I'm sure viewing the show as a giant 8 hour movie is the way to go though. I've said that from the beginning that when you slowly build a story in this fashion, it has to be viewed as one large puzzle to fully digest what you're seeing. The weekly episodic format is more prone to the viewer forgetting the little clues from week-to-week, which are usually the vital parts of the story. It also hurts the overall pace. I think you're making the right decision by holding off.
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Post by punksnotdead on Aug 3, 2015 12:46:48 GMT -5
So maybe someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think this is the gist: However many years ago, there was a crime at a Diamond store. The two kids saw their parents murdered by a group of cops. The girl grows up and works with Casper, inserts herself into the party sh*t that crew has going on, and has seemingly been plotting her revenge. We'll assume that the brother and sister duo are the ones who killed Casper. After what TK found, we know, for the most part, all the cops that were involved, and how they tie together. This gets him killed.
In the mean time, the Russians are playing a different game. They essentially stole Vince Vaughn's money and took his land. That's the overall gist. So Vaughn really has nothing to do with the party world, other than he's linked by happenstance and his connection to Velcoro. Where is the zip drive, does it still matter? I think that it does, as that's the only real proof to expose the entire group of such high ranking officials. That likely serves as the final link between Vaughn and Velcoro if I were to guess.
Here is where things get interesting for me... who was driving Burris, and why did that look just like Elvis's (Ani's partner) car? That was kind of curious. Is it possible that he's the brother and he's been working from the inside as well? Curious.
Everything else, kind of doesn't matter imo. Vince Vaughn is going to go after the money and Osip, but that only links to the crime if Vaughn gets hold of the zip drive. The Mayor seemingly doesn't know what's going on, so he may be in a position to help Velcoro and Ani. Why does Ani being raped have anything to do with anything? I thought that was weird but I'm guessing it ties to someone within this world that she knows, but doesn't realize she knows. That's kind of it though.
Velcoro and Ani essentially have to find the video in order to stop this entire situation from either killing them, or landing them in jail. I think the kids are the ritual murderers, we know why, and the real solution the duo is left to solve is to how they can stop these sex parties, take down these officials, and by extension, putting a halt to the land deal that Vince Vaughn has been tied to all season.
I will say that one thing really pissed me off. There is absolutely no way that Burris knows where TK walks out of that building. That was so idiotic that it hurt the emotional impact of the death. I think it's also safe to say as former black ops military and police, he knows how to sweep a room. That was really piss poor execution imo. [/spoilers]
So yeah, relatively speaking, I feel most of the questions this season has been asking, and there were quite a few, were answered last night. I guess that could all change next episode, assumption being what it is, but I think the story makes so much more sense now. I can imagine I'll enjoy this story a whole lot more if I go and rewatch it once it's all over now.
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Post by MacReady on Aug 3, 2015 12:53:24 GMT -5
So maybe someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think this is the gist: However many years ago, there was a crime at a Diamond store. The two kids saw their parents murdered by a group of cops. The girl grows up and works with Casper, inserts herself into the party sh*t that crew has going on, and has seemingly been plotting her revenge. We'll assume that the brother and sister duo are the ones who killed Casper. After what TK found, we know, for the most part, all the cops that were involved, and how they tie together. This gets him killed.
In the mean time, the Russians are playing a different game. They essentially stole Vince Vaughn's money and took his land. That's the overall gist. So Vaughn really has nothing to do with the party world, other than he's linked by happenstance and his connection to Velcoro. Where is the zip drive, does it still matter? I think that it does, as that's the only real proof to expose the entire group of such high ranking officials. That likely serves as the final link between Vaughn and Velcoro if I were to guess.
Here is where things get interesting for me... who was driving Burris, and why did that look just like Elvis's (Ani's partner) car? That was kind of curious. Is it possible that he's the brother and he's been working from the inside as well? Curious.
Everything else, kind of doesn't matter imo. Vince Vaughn is going to go after the money and Osip, but that only links to the crime if Vaughn gets hold of the zip drive. The Mayor seemingly doesn't know what's going on, so he may be in a position to help Velcoro and Ani. Why does Ani being raped have anything to do with anything? I thought that was weird but I'm guessing it ties to someone within this world that she knows, but doesn't realize she knows. That's kind of it though.
Velcoro and Ani essentially have to find the video in order to stop this entire situation from either killing them, or landing them in jail. I think the kids are the ritual murders, we know why, and the real solution the duo is left to solve is to how they can stop these sex parties, take down these officials, and by extension, putting a halt to the land deal that Vince Vaughn has been tied to all season.
I will say that one thing really pissed me off. There is absolutely no way that Burris knows where TK walks out of that building. That was so idiotic that it hurt the emotional impact of the death. I think it's also safe to say as former black ops military and police, he knows how to sweep a room. That was really piss poor execution imo. [/spoilers]
So yeah, relatively speaking, I feel most of the questions this season has been asking, and there were quite a few, were answered last night. I guess that could all change next episode, assumption being what it is, but I think the story makes so much more sense now. I can imagine I'll enjoy this story a whole lot more if I go and rewatch it once it's all over now.
Sounds pretty accurate to me! Great write up! I'm SO stoked for the finale, this season has literally been like a freight train heading into a wall, you just KNOW things are going to explode next week!
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Post by jakksking1 on Aug 3, 2015 20:51:14 GMT -5
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Post by punksnotdead on Aug 6, 2015 11:41:17 GMT -5
Finally had a chance to read through this last night. I feel like I have a pretty good grasp on that entire rundown but I'm glad it kind of reinforced that I was able to keep up. It was nice that they included pictures with names. I'm good with faces, not names, so it was nice to have a picture to go with the recap. I honestly don't think the story is really that convoluted. However, I do think it was presented in a very convoluted fashion. To the point where I, as an audience, didn't really know what I was supposed to be asking myself, which made the story seem far more chaotic than I think it actually was intended to be. Regardless, I think this is a great article to read heading into the final episode. Even if you have followed along, it's good to kind of mentally get all of the ducks in a row before the final 90 minutes. Thanks for posting.
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Post by Himmy! on Aug 7, 2015 1:46:58 GMT -5
It's been confusing at times but enjoyable nonetheless. Looking forward to the finale. It'll never be Season One but it was never supposed to be. This is a completely different animal and at times has been pretty good in its own right.
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Post by jakksking1 on Aug 9, 2015 21:54:18 GMT -5
Any Wire fans out there? The final scenes are very similar to the series finale of the Wire with a dirty mayor being sworn in during an ending montage.
Anyways pretty good finale , I did laugh a little though when the LAPD shot the black guy being attacked. Things never change
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2015 10:06:59 GMT -5
Loved season 1.
Started season 2... And meh
They'll never top season 1
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