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Post by YES! YES! YES! on Jul 7, 2015 9:40:36 GMT -5
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Post by J12 on Jul 7, 2015 10:13:23 GMT -5
Cool moment. Cena catches a lot of flak for burying a lot of guys, and sometimes it's hard to argue, though it's not always his fault. This US Title run, though, has been so refreshing for him. Great matches left and right, great opponents, elevation for future stars in defeat. Cesaro is just so damn good, he deserves this. I honestly haven't enjoyed John Cena this much since he was a rising star on Smackdown in '03-'04. I can't say enough about him right now. Last night's show was fun, for the most part, but the rest of it all went out the window when the bell rang for Cena/Cesaro. They tore the house down in a true wrestling main event, where I didn't feel like I needed to see a cliffhanger ending to leave me wanting more. They did it with the story they told in the ring, and that is so incredibly rare these days. |
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Post by ✖ AJ on Jul 7, 2015 10:15:17 GMT -5
I hope Brock destroys J&J's new car. Just finishing the final hour and a half of Monday Night Replay. I  ing knew it and it was glorious. |
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Jul 7, 2015 10:40:09 GMT -5
Man, what a dangerous and stupid stunt by WWE last night with Brock and those axes. There could have been a major accident during that unnecessary segment. Brock could have gotten hit with the axes as they bounced off the car, he could have hit himself with the axes....he actually ended up hitting a fan with the car door he threw into the crowd.
I mean, I understand Brock doesn't wrestle on TV because you want to keep his matches special and keep him from getting injured.....but I think it's safer for him to WRESTLE than to swing axes at automobiles.
The whole thing was just bad. The storyline writers need to be fired and replaced with people who know something about wrestling. No wonder Chris Jericho refuses to work TV and Batista and RVD refuse to come back at all.
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Post by J12 on Jul 7, 2015 10:43:21 GMT -5
Brock Lesnar's destruction of the Caddy was one of those moments where predictability isn't a bad thing.
I mean, come on, we all knew the moment Seth Rollins had the car roll on out last week that Lesnar was going to destroy it. And yet, I looked forward to it. And when it happened, I laughed and smiled at the hilarity and ridiculousness of Brock Lesnar wielding a deadly weapon and just smashing the crap out of a pretty, expensive object. Then again, I laugh and genuinely enjoy watching Brock Lesnar just stand in the ring swaying and tight lipped while Heyman yammers, so, I guess it was a given that I'd enjoy this. For a guy that can't really talk, Brock oozes a unique charisma that I can't help but love.
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Post by shenmue on Jul 7, 2015 11:39:01 GMT -5
I love Cesaro but it was another typical Cena match. Hit a big move, kick out, repeat 20x (and throw in multiple kick outs from finishers). I know most WWE matches follow this flow but how about put on a match where a finisher finishes the match on the first successful attemp. A match can still go 20 minutes and have one finisher end it. Agreed, i almost disliked the cena match last night, not only did he keep kicking out of one ridiculous move after another but he was powering out of them each and every time. As you say it happens in most big time WWE matches nowadays and Cena vs Owens 3 will be the same, kick out after kick out after kick out. I prefer the more slower paced matches where they are gradually wearing the other man down, there is kick outs and near falls but not from finishers, last nights math for me was bordering on just being silly, but it was a quality match with many great moves, just didn't work for me. Probably why i'm not looking forward to Owens vs Cena 3 that much even though it will be a excellent match quality wise,it be a copy of the first 2 (2nd being worst), maybe even more kick outs ha. |
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Jul 7, 2015 12:01:55 GMT -5
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Post by punksnotdead on Jul 7, 2015 12:11:42 GMT -5
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Post by Himmy! on Jul 7, 2015 14:46:33 GMT -5
Titus on commentary was absolutely glorious.
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Post by cordless2016 on Jul 7, 2015 14:51:02 GMT -5
I love Cesaro but it was another typical Cena match. Hit a big move, kick out, repeat 20x (and throw in multiple kick outs from finishers). I know most WWE matches follow this flow but how about put on a match where a finisher finishes the match on the first successful attemp. A match can still go 20 minutes and have one finisher end it. I like mutiple kick outs in a match sometimes but I think Cena tries to do to much Most of Cena's recent matches have followed this flow. Not ragging on him but people have been overrating his matches lately when all he's doing is killing the credibility of big moves. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2015 15:00:04 GMT -5
I like mutiple kick outs in a match sometimes but I think Cena tries to do to much Most of Cena's recent matches have followed this flow. Not ragging on him but people have been overrating his matches lately when all he's doing is killing the credibility of big moves. I mean ill admit i have been impressed with him latly,he is for sure bringing credability back to the US Title |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2015 15:41:28 GMT -5
The best episode of RAW since the post-WM one, IMO.
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Post by Chip on Jul 7, 2015 19:28:29 GMT -5
Cena can say whatever he wants to a live audience about Cesaro...it was off camera. so only the people there "know"....its not changing vince's mind. he refuses for whatever ing reason to give Cesaro any opportunities besides these random 50star classics. him & cena had one like a year ago and it led to NOTHING as usual. Cesaro was probably requested by Cena because Cena is LOVING working indy-style matches lately, and I can't blame him. For the first time in his career since rising to the top he's doing something DIFFERENT (yes I know overcoming the odds isn't different, i'm talking about his actual ring work) and he must be loving it. But no one else in the back gives a flying about Cesaro. They look at him as a tag team guy who's there to fill a spot match if they need it. They have no ing clue what to do with him even though all he needs is THE SIMPLEST booking ever and people would....shock coming!.....PAY to see him wrestle in the main event. There are 50 ways you can book a guy like Cesaro successfully. Look at what they are doing with Roman Reigns...He is on the exact same level as Cesaro as far as mic work, he just uses the word bitch & ass more. And he is 1/11000205020501th the wrestler that Cesaro is. It's all in how the audience is being told the guy is. This is the WWE, they have the ability to do whatever they want with whoever they want. Clearly the fans want to get behind Cesaro, the WRESTLERS are coming to bat for Cesaro...but it's not gonna change anyone's mind who actually makes the decisions, and that's the sad part. |
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Post by The neferious brotha Hargrove on Jul 7, 2015 19:50:38 GMT -5
Have any of you guys seen the video of Lesnar throwing the car door and it hitting a kid
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Post by venomeratt on Jul 7, 2015 20:30:57 GMT -5
Regardless, Cesaro has shown time and time again he is one of the strongest athletes on the roster. Sucks Kidd is out but im hoping he gets a good push again.
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Post by Darkhawk on Jul 7, 2015 20:36:31 GMT -5
Hopefully after that great match last night WWE will finally give Cesaro a push. The guy is amazing in the ring and he continues to impress me.
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Post by Himmy! on Jul 8, 2015 2:34:05 GMT -5
Have any of you guys seen the video of Lesnar throwing the car door and it hitting a kid Love Lesnar but starting to fear for people's safety. Apart from this incident, every time he gets his hands on J&J he looks like he's hurting them and he did with Nobles ribs. He doesn't know his own strength. He could be a lawsuit waiting to happen haha. |
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Post by punksnotdead on Jul 8, 2015 12:07:47 GMT -5
Have any of you guys seen the video of Lesnar throwing the car door and it hitting a kid I honestly can't tell if the kid gets hit or if he just falls backwards over the stairs trying to get out of the way. I definitely think Brock should have more-or-less slid the door, versus launching it. I really do think they've created this atmosphere that Brock is just a pure animal, and it's made for captivating television that I love. That being said, maybe just a little more controlled. The axes and car door, while visually striking, seemingly put Brock and the fans in a bit of a potentially dangerous situation. I think it would have been fairly easy for Brock to cut or hurt himself during that whole thing. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2015 12:29:24 GMT -5
Have any of you guys seen the video of Lesnar throwing the car door and it hitting a kid I honestly can't tell if the kid gets hit or if he just falls backwards over the stairs trying to get out of the way. I definitely think Brock should have more-or-less slid the door, versus launching it. I really do think they've created this atmosphere that Brock is just a pure animal, and it's made for captivating television that I love. That being said, maybe just a little more controlled. The axes and car door, while visually striking, seemingly put Brock and the fans in a bit of a potentially dangerous situation. I think it would have been fairly easy for Brock to cut or hurt himself during that whole thing. Im just really glad the kid didnt get seriously hurt because the way it looked on tv it looked like Brock threw that door pretty hard |
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Post by AJ F'n Brooks on Jul 8, 2015 12:36:52 GMT -5
Look at what they are doing with Roman Reigns... He is on the exact same level as Cesaro as far as mic work, he just uses the word bitch & ass more. And he is 1/11000205020501th the wrestler that Cesaro is. Pre-Royal Rumble maybe. Post-Royal Rumble no way. Roman's Mic Work > Cesaro's Mic Work. I didn't get the hate for Roman back then(when he won the Rumble) so right now I don't get it even more. Roman Reigns is no Cesaro in the ring obviously but the guy is DAMN GOOD for someone with his level of experience. Don't believe me? Ask Daniel Bryan and Chris Jericho: Ever since the Royal Rumble backlash the guy has proved he belonged with arguably 4 consecutive MOTN, and some of those are MOTY Candidates(WWE). The guy got a Main Event push and has raised to the occasion. The hate is kinda ridiculous nowadays. |
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