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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2015 6:55:00 GMT -5
I say have them both win their own big matches. Then end the show with a stare down between the two. If you insist on doing it, just save it till WM. THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS This.
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Post by ThugSuperstar on Jul 17, 2015 10:27:31 GMT -5
I can't see them having one babyface return to cost another babyface the title. That just doesn't make sense. Lesnar is so over with this Suplex City stuff right now, turning him heel again this soon would be dumb.
If anything, have the lights go out during Rollins vs. Lesnar, the gong tolls and when the lights come back on Taker has them both by the throat and he Chokeslams both guys. It says up a Triple Threat for the title at SummerSlam and makes sense - Taker wants revenge on Lesnar for beating his streak and he wants revenge on Rollins for embarrassing his brother and breaking his ankle.
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Jul 17, 2015 10:34:07 GMT -5
I can't see them having one babyface return to cost another babyface the title. That just doesn't make sense. Lesnar is so over with this Suplex City stuff right now, turning him heel again this soon would be dumb. If anything, have the lights go out during Rollins vs. Lesnar, the gong tolls and when the lights come back on Taker has them both by the throat and he Chokeslams both guys. It says up a Triple Threat for the title at SummerSlam and makes sense - Taker wants revenge on Lesnar for beating his streak and he wants revenge on Rollins for embarrassing his brother and breaking his ankle. I agree. It makes no sense turning Lesnar heel, and in any situation when you face Undertaker, you become he heel because Undertaker is so beloved. Brock Lesnar is so popular and the fans love Suplex City so much, and Lesnar is going to be around a lot more often than The Undertaker, so WWE will be able to benefit greater by Lesnar's face popularity than by turning Lesnar heel for the purposes of ONE MATCH so Undertaker can get revenge for something that the fans aren't even that upset about anymore!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2015 10:45:33 GMT -5
We have a Spoiler Room for a reason... I know, but this has not been confirmed so it might not be true
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2015 12:23:29 GMT -5
Brock Lesnar is not a Face!
And he's not a Heel either. When are people going to realise that?
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Post by cripplercrossface on Jul 17, 2015 12:57:34 GMT -5
Brock Lesnar is not a Face! And he's not a Heel either. When are people going to realise that? Until WWE realise this.
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Post by ThugSuperstar on Jul 17, 2015 13:53:11 GMT -5
Brock Lesnar is not a Face! And he's not a Heel either. When are people going to realise that? He is absolutely a babyface. There's no such thing as tweeners anymore. He's been beating up every top heels on RAW every week since he came back. Vince only wants guys to be established as faces or heels in this current product; he's said that before.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2015 14:02:10 GMT -5
Brock Lesnar is not a Face! And he's not a Heel either. When are people going to realise that? He is absolutely a babyface. There's no such thing as tweeners anymore. He's been beating up every top heels on RAW every week since he came back. Vince only wants guys to be established as faces or heels in this current product; he's said that before. He's not a Face. He's not a Heel. He's not a Tweener. He's Brock Lesnar. That's his gimmick. He wants the title, and it doesn't make a difference whether the champ's a Heel, or the champ's a Face, Brock will be exactly the same. He sees what he wants, he sees an obstacle in his way, so he takes out that obstacle. And if you don't agree with me now, you will after The Undertaker returns at Battleground and costs him the title. Then there'll be no more of this confusion.
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Post by ThugSuperstar on Jul 17, 2015 14:08:56 GMT -5
He is absolutely a babyface. There's no such thing as tweeners anymore. He's been beating up every top heels on RAW every week since he came back. Vince only wants guys to be established as faces or heels in this current product; he's said that before. He's not a Face. He's not a Heel. He's not a Tweener. He's Brock Lesnar. That's his gimmick. He wants the title, and it doesn't make a difference whether the champ's a Heel, or the champ's a Face, Brock will be exactly the same. He sees what he wants, he sees an obstacle in his way, so he takes out that obstacle. And if you don't agree with me now, you will after The Undertaker returns at Battleground and costs him the title. Then there'll be no more of this confusion. I disagree. If Lesnar wasn't a face, then why did they have a heel screw him out of the title at Mania? And why would they book him to get beat up 4-on-1 by The Authority on RAW a few weeks ago? They have done everything possible to book him as a babyface since Wrestlemania.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2015 14:13:47 GMT -5
He's not a Face. He's not a Heel. He's not a Tweener. He's Brock Lesnar. That's his gimmick. He wants the title, and it doesn't make a difference whether the champ's a Heel, or the champ's a Face, Brock will be exactly the same. He sees what he wants, he sees an obstacle in his way, so he takes out that obstacle. And if you don't agree with me now, you will after The Undertaker returns at Battleground and costs him the title. Then there'll be no more of this confusion. I disagree. If Lesnar wasn't a face, then why did they have a heel screw him out of the title at Mania? And why would they book him to get beat up 4-on-1 by The Authority on RAW a few weeks ago? They have done everything possible to book him as a babyface since Wrestlemania. I can see your point, but I don't agree with it. The beat down by the Authority was to (believe it or not) assert Brock's dominance. It took 4 men to take him down, and yet he dusted himself off and continued on firmly focused on the title. He will not be booked as a Face after Battleground, that I am sure of.
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Post by JCF on Jul 17, 2015 14:14:51 GMT -5
If we actually get sting vs The Undertaker at SummerSlam I'm going to be pretty upset I never bought a ticket
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2015 14:18:44 GMT -5
If we actually get sting vs The Undertaker at SummerSlam I'm going to be pretty upset I never bought a ticket I don't think they're going to go with that honestly. Vince is really dead-set against it apparently.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2015 14:29:57 GMT -5
Sting vs Undertaker needs to happen.
No excuses
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2015 14:31:53 GMT -5
Sting vs Undertaker needs to happen. No excuses I want to see it, but I'm not sure if we ever will.
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Post by ThugSuperstar on Jul 17, 2015 14:34:46 GMT -5
I disagree. If Lesnar wasn't a face, then why did they have a heel screw him out of the title at Mania? And why would they book him to get beat up 4-on-1 by The Authority on RAW a few weeks ago? They have done everything possible to book him as a babyface since Wrestlemania. I can see your point, but I don't agree with it. The beat down by the Authority was to (believe it or not) assert Brock's dominance. It took 4 men to take him down, and yet he dusted himself off and continued on firmly focused on the title. He will not be booked as a Face after Battleground, that I am sure of. I'm glad you said that because that brings up another point I was going to make. What happened to "my client doesn't fight for free" from when Brock was a heel? All he's wanted to do every time he's been on TV since Wrestlemania is to beat people up, which is exactly what Heyman didn't want him doing when he was full-blown heel. Now, he's fighting four guys at once who have bats with them.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2015 14:48:12 GMT -5
I can see your point, but I don't agree with it. The beat down by the Authority was to (believe it or not) assert Brock's dominance. It took 4 men to take him down, and yet he dusted himself off and continued on firmly focused on the title. He will not be booked as a Face after Battleground, that I am sure of. I'm glad you said that because that brings up another point I was going to make. What happened to "my client doesn't fight for free" from when Brock was a heel? All he's wanted to do every time he's been on TV since Wrestlemania is to beat people up, which is exactly what Heyman didn't want him doing when he was full-blown heel. Now, he's fighting four guys at once who have bats with them. Well, he's still not fighting for free, is he? Heyman made a big deal about how Lesnar had signed a multi-million, multi-year deal with WWE and how he gets paid a large amount to just appear. He may as well be a one man wrecking crew when he shows up, right?
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Post by Hammersmith Hardman on Jul 17, 2015 14:50:36 GMT -5
We have a Spoiler Room for a reason... You weren't forced to click it...
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Post by ThugSuperstar on Jul 17, 2015 15:27:56 GMT -5
I'm glad you said that because that brings up another point I was going to make. What happened to "my client doesn't fight for free" from when Brock was a heel? All he's wanted to do every time he's been on TV since Wrestlemania is to beat people up, which is exactly what Heyman didn't want him doing when he was full-blown heel. Now, he's fighting four guys at once who have bats with them. Well, he's still not fighting for free, is he? Heyman made a big deal about how Lesnar had signed a multi-million, multi-year deal with WWE and how he gets paid a large amount to just appear. He may as well be a one man wrecking crew when he shows up, right? He is fighting on free TV. He would always back down from getting into any physical altercations with Cena, Triple H, etc prior to a big PPV match because, as Heyman would say, "My clients don't fight for free." But now, he's brawling with everybody every chance he gets. Heyman never had him or encouraged him to do that when he was heel.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2015 15:31:09 GMT -5
Well, he's still not fighting for free, is he? Heyman made a big deal about how Lesnar had signed a multi-million, multi-year deal with WWE and how he gets paid a large amount to just appear. He may as well be a one man wrecking crew when he shows up, right? He is fighting on free TV. He would always back down from getting into any physical altercations with Cena, Triple H, etc prior to a big PPV match because, as Heyman would say, "My clients don't fight for free." But now, he's brawling with everybody every chance he gets. Heyman never had him or encouraged him to do that when he was heel. But it's all dependent on what Brock wants to do. I guarantee that next Monday on RAW, when they begin the build to him and 'Taker at SummerSlam, he'll be backing down from the fight then. If anything, he's an Anti-hero, at a push.
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Post by K5 on Jul 17, 2015 15:37:45 GMT -5
lesnar is a face in the exact same way taz was in ecw.
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