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Post by havoc7179 on Jul 20, 2015 15:00:53 GMT -5
So far, this WWE feud between Owens and Cena looks eerily similar to Rusev and Cena. However, I have to belive, if only for my sanity as a wrestling fan, that Super Cena is going to put over KO in some manner.
My only guess is that Cena taps out to Owens. This is literally the only way to have Owens come out looking strong in this feud. If they do like TNA did with Angle vs. Joe and have Joe come out on top in a gimmick match, it won't be as exciting just like how Joe's victory was meh.
It can even be a four way elimination match between SuperCena, Cesaro, Rusev, and KO. Have Cena pin Rusev. Have KO pin Cesaro. Then have KO make Cena tap out. Cena made KO tap, now it's time for Cena to tap.
As far fetched as Cena tapping is, I can't see any way around it unless you apply WWE Logic. Has Owens looking strong, and Cena passing the torch at a main PPV.
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(Side note, I don't see KO winning until after losing at NXT Takeover, which will be right before Summerslam I believe.)
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Post by RybackV1 on Jul 20, 2015 15:08:36 GMT -5
Sadly I see Cena having won the feud out. If not he will at Summerslam
I thought this was finally the guy that Cena would put over without any dispute , but no, he will never do it for anyone ;/
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Post by Planktung on Jul 20, 2015 15:31:03 GMT -5
Kevin Owens can't be saved because there isn't anything to save him from. He's not "buried" or "ruined" like people have been claiming. Dude kicked out of an AA from the top rope, which I think has been forgotten about because of the finish.
Should he have gone over last night? Yes, but this doesn't mean his career is doomed to fail. Let's all just wait it out and see what happens.
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Post by The Sexy Psychotic on Jul 20, 2015 15:34:57 GMT -5
I just hope we dont need to see these guys go at it AGAIN for what, like the 5th time at SummerSham; WWE really needs to stop beating dead horses and repeating matches that got good receptions the first time round. Give us something new and fresh, not the EXACT same match, same spots and all, every PPV for like 3/4 months
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Post by havoc7179 on Jul 20, 2015 15:37:30 GMT -5
Kevin Owens can't be saved because there isn't anything to save him from. He's not "buried" or "ruined" like people have been claiming. Dude kicked out of an AA from the top rope, which I think has been forgotten about because of the finish. Should he have gone over last night? Yes, but this doesn't mean his career is doomed to fail. Let's all just wait it out and see what happens. Right now, all I see is a man who had a fluke victory over Cena. Sorry, I don't see this Kevin Steene Guy. I see a man who failed to make it in the big leagues, and lost it all when he gambled to make a name for himself. So, yes, I think he's kind of buried right now. Put him a track suit, give him Ernest Miller's old music, and have him team up with Jason Albert as Tons of Funk 2--Cena Buried Two. If WWE doesn't give KO the win at this point, to quote Bobby Rude, that victory was a FLUKE.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Jul 20, 2015 15:39:59 GMT -5
I am probably in the minority here, but I loved that Cena beat Owens last night and beat him by making him tap out at that!
I never saw anything in Kevin Owens. I have stated that many times on here in the past. I don't see the hype about him. If anything, I could see Vince asking him to grow out his beard to join Luke and Bray now.
With SummerSlam being in New York and Vince wanting this year to be a huge deal, I could even see Cena vs. Rollins in a Title vs. Title match with Cena taking the WWE Title back.
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Post by Todd Pettengill on Jul 20, 2015 15:46:01 GMT -5
Kevin Owens can't be saved because there isn't anything to save him from. He's not "buried" or "ruined" like people have been claiming. Dude kicked out of an AA from the top rope, which I think has been forgotten about because of the finish. Should he have gone over last night? Yes, but this doesn't mean his career is doomed to fail. Let's all just wait it out and see what happens. Right now, all I see is a man who had a fluke victory over Cena. Sorry, I don't see this Kevin Steene Guy. I see a man who failed to make it in the big leagues, and lost it all when he gambled to make a name for himself. So, yes, I think he's kind of buried right now. Put him a track suit, give him Ernest Miller's old music, and have him team up with Jason Albert as Tons of Funk 2--Cena Buried Two. If WWE doesn't give KO the win at this point, to quote Bobby Rude, that victory was a FLUKE.
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Post by havoc7179 on Jul 20, 2015 15:53:55 GMT -5
Right now, all I see is a man who had a fluke victory over Cena. Sorry, I don't see this Kevin Steene Guy. I see a man who failed to make it in the big leagues, and lost it all when he gambled to make a name for himself. So, yes, I think he's kind of buried right now. Put him a track suit, give him Ernest Miller's old music, and have him team up with Jason Albert as Tons of Funk 2--Cena Buried Two. If WWE doesn't give KO the win at this point, to quote Bobby Rude, that victory was a FLUKE. LOL. That's the story WWE has told so far. You have NXT. Where all of these up and coming wrestlers are currently wrestling. Then you have big bad KO come in and challenge Cena. He wins once. Might as well been by rollup. He loses the rematch. He loses the rubber match. In the middle of it all he loses the NXT title. Sorry little boy, but come back when your seasoned. 13 years wrestling for the minor leagues don't make you good enough to compete here yet. No one is good enough to come from NXT and jump right into a big angle according to this storyline. Whomever is writing this angle has just said: I don't care what you did elsewhere, you are nothing. And that's fine, but don't try to make it seem like NXT is a big deal anymore. It's not. Maybe that was the true goal since for the past 6-7 months, people are going gaga over NXT and claiming WWE's product is meh. It's to show the inferiority of the wrestlers in development, and tells the Universe to start getting excited for the main show as the inferior wrestlers are using NXT to train. Nothing to see there.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2015 16:10:27 GMT -5
I think there will be one more match at SummerSlam, possibly something gimmicky.
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Post by rkmo: A Lack of Fortitude on Jul 20, 2015 16:20:47 GMT -5
I'm fairly confident the Owens-Cena rivalry isn't quite done yet. I feel Big Kev will win the US Championship at Summerslam in a Triple Threat in typical heel fashion, taking advantage of an AA from Cena and pinning the third wheel in the match. Him and Cena will then face each other at Night of Champions in a gimmick match, where (hopefully) Owens goes over big. An Iron Man Match would fit in quite well, but a 2 Out of 3 Falls Match is more likely.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2015 16:23:24 GMT -5
nope. He lost a wrestling match. If you lose it means you've been buried and you can't come back. If you don't win every single match then you're ed.
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Post by cmiller79 on Jul 20, 2015 16:29:37 GMT -5
i think owens will end up with the title but wont pin or tap out cena for it most likely a 3 way so cesaro or somebody can take the pin or tap out then cena never really loses but he also does not really put him over either
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Post by greenjack1992 on Jul 20, 2015 16:49:13 GMT -5
How many times were Punk or Bryan put down in a feud with a major player before making it to the top?
Don't forget that just two months before Daniel Bryan won the World Championship in the main event of WrestleMania, he was wearing a boiler suit as a member of the Wyatt Family.
They tried so hard to put him down but he just kept bobbing back up.
Punk was saddled with the New Nexus, had his head shaved by Rey Mysterio, lost his WWE Championship after a month during his hottest period, didn't get a rematch and was instead defeated clean by Triple H in his next PPV, that year at WrestleMania he had also lost to Orton in a match which did nothing for Orton but would have been a push in the right direction for Punk.
Owens will be another Danielson/Punk personality where the fans will drag him into the main event if they have to.
However, there is one crucial difference between Owens and those two guys: he's one of Triple H's guys. Triple H, who's in charge of creative and talent development. He's one of the NXT 5, and Triple H needs some of the guys to come out of NXT and become success stories. He's achieving that with Rollins at the moment, but you just know that Owens, Neville, Balor and Zayne will all be bubbling away to be next in line to become a made man. The Reigns, Dallas, Cesaro etc crop of talent may have come through WWE developmental, but they weren't Triple H's chosen boys.
It's a different time now.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2015 17:07:23 GMT -5
Cena over Owens at SS.
The Cena Equation: you beat Cena? Cena beats you the next 3 consecutive pay-per-views.
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Post by rkoorfu on Jul 20, 2015 17:19:43 GMT -5
I still don't know why everyone thinks this was the worst booking ever. Theres clearly going to be one more match at Summerslam and I think that Cesaro will make it a triple threat and KO will pin Cesaro leading to a fued between those two and leaving Cena to move on from the US title to do other things. I think its crazy to think that someone losing a 20 minute match to the face of a company as a rookie after kicking out of his finisher about 5 or 6 times is equal him being buried.
This is different than Rusev or Wyatt (who also lost to Cena despite having Rowen and Harper helping him) or all the other monsters Cena has conquered. KO has been truly built up in this fued as someone who any fan now sees as legit and if he wins the US title at Summerslam as I predict I believe he'll have a long and very enjoyable run with the title, where he'll lose to sami Zayn at Wrestlmania (I can dream).
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Post by ellisd on Jul 20, 2015 18:54:48 GMT -5
LOL. That's the story WWE has told so far. You have NXT. Where all of these up and coming wrestlers are currently wrestling. Then you have spam KO come in and challenge Cena. He wins once. Might as well been by rollup. He loses the rematch. He loses the rubber match. In the middle of it all he loses the NXT title. Sorry little boy, but come back when your seasoned. 13 years wrestling for the minor leagues don't make you good enough to compete here yet. No one is good enough to come from NXT and jump right into a big angle according to this storyline. Whomever is writing this angle has just said: I don't care what you did elsewhere, you are nothing. And that's fine, but don't try to make it seem like NXT is a big deal anymore. It's not. Maybe that was the true goal since for the past 6-7 months, people are going gaga over NXT and claiming WWE's product is meh. It's to show the inferiority of the wrestlers in development, and tells the Universe to start getting excited for the main show as the inferior wrestlers are using NXT to train. Nothing to see there. See thats not what I see at all. I see a guy that came in and went toe to toe with Cena, the companies biggest star. Not only did he go toe to toe with him, he beat him. Sure Cena won the next 2, but neither of those 2 matches were squashes. I'm not a Cena fan, but I have to applaud his work since winning the US title. He's actually been working with his opponents and making every match mean something. But that's not the main thing I see out of this storyline. I saw 3 great matches that blew me away, from 2 guys that I didn't give a crap about before the first match started.
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Post by ZDB on Jul 20, 2015 20:05:08 GMT -5
Booking him to lose at Battleground was a horrible idea Owens losing back/back/back in Japan, Battleground, and NXT Brooklyn makes him look weak whichever way you put it. Not like he can even weasel out of NXT Brooklyn because it's a broadcasted main event title match and likely his last NXT match; meaning interference can't happen because Owens can't have another feud. Breeze or Joe could interfere and take down Balor but it would tarnish Owen's track record even further.
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Post by havoc7179 on Jul 20, 2015 20:09:31 GMT -5
Booking him to lose at Battleground was a horrible idea Owens losing back/back/back in Japan, Battleground, and NXT Brooklyn makes him look weak whichever way you put it. Not like he can even weasel out of NXT Brooklyn because it's a broadcasted main event title match and likely his last NXT match; meaning interference can't happen because Owens can't have another feud. Breeze or Joe could interfere and take down Balor but it would tarnish Owen's track record even further. And now he's part of the jobbers pulling apart lesnar. Tap Owens tap. Future lol this is why people can't stand cena. You feud with him and You will lose and lose all credibility.
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Post by havoc7179 on Jul 20, 2015 20:11:36 GMT -5
I still don't know why everyone thinks this was the worst booking ever. Theres clearly going to be one more match at Summerslam and I think that Cesaro will make it a triple threat and KO will pin Cesaro leading to a fued between those two and leaving Cena to move on from the US title to do other things. I think its crazy to think that someone losing a 20 minute match to the face of a company as a rookie after kicking out of his finisher about 5 or 6 times is equal him being buried. This is different than Rusev or Wyatt (who also lost to Cena despite having Rowen and Harper helping him) or all the other monsters Cena has conquered. KO has been truly built up in this fued as someone who any fan now sees as legit and if he wins the US title at Summerslam as I predict I believe he'll have a long and very enjoyable run with the title, where he'll lose to sami Zayn at Wrestlmania (I can dream). So basically he still won't go over Cena. Looks like a fluke to me.
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Post by The Yes Man on Jul 20, 2015 21:04:55 GMT -5
Kevin Owens can't be saved because there isn't anything to save him from. He's not "buried" or "ruined" like people have been claiming. Dude kicked out of an AA from the top rope, which I think has been forgotten about because of the finish. Should he have gone over last night? Yes, but this doesn't mean his career is doomed to fail. Let's all just wait it out and see what happens. When Owens kicked out of that Top Rope AA, my face was eerily similar to "Just Say Yes" guy when the streak ended.
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