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Post by rvd3434 on Jul 25, 2015 9:00:59 GMT -5
Well the package just came and as I figured...he scammed me. Sent me a Mattel Hall of Fame Ultimate Warrior figure. What a piece of crap this seller is!
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Post by Boon on Jul 25, 2015 9:30:07 GMT -5
Well the package just came and as I figured...he scammed me. Sent me a Mattel Hall of Fame Ultimate Warrior figure. What a piece of crap this seller is! Did you open it at the USPS place in front of witnesses??
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Post by rvd3434 on Jul 25, 2015 10:16:23 GMT -5
No, I recorded the mail truck pulling up, him dropping it off and me picking it up and opening it while showing tracking info and all the important stuff, I never cut away. Also, I know it's a long read but for anyone interested, look at the crap I've been having to deal with JUST within the case, never mind all the side BS. Earliest Message/Case opening starts at bottom:
You = Me The Seller = Obviously, The Dirt bag who ripped me off
Jul. 25 : You sent a message Comments: Also, WHAT REFUND!?! You cancelled the e-checks! I got the notification from Paypal! I M NOT WAITING ANYMORE! YOU READ ME LOUD & CLEAR?! I M NOOOOT WAITING!!! You will NOT pull anymore fast ones on me and I m absolutely done reading your BS messages! You NEVER had the LJN Ultimate Warrior to begin with! So don t sit there and LIE to eBay because you are certainly NOT fooling me! EACH and EVERY day...your stories change, nothing adds up! You have NOTHING working in your defense. You are a straight up con-artist! I have the video of your bogus package and will be providing it to eBay. Then I will be calling USPS back, talking to the USPS Inspector I spoke with...and I will share the video as well and I will...WILL be upgrading that case to MAIL FRAUD. You messed with the wrong person! Jul. 25 : You sent a message Comments: YOU ARE SUCH A LIAR! DON T YOU DARE TRY TO TELL ME THAT I DIDN T WANT TO TALK TO YOU. I HAVE KEPT UP WITH THIS TRANSACTION SINCE DAY ONE! I HAVE SENT YOU MANY MESSAGES, ALL OF WHICH NEVER ADDRESS MY CONCERNS! NOW, YOU MAKE UP ANOTHER EXCUSE THINKING IT LL PROTECT YOUR ASS? YOU NEVER...AND I REPEAT NEVER SENT ME ANY FORM OF WHAT YOU ARE NOW STATING! MY GOD...YOU LIE SO DAMN MUCH. THIS WHOLE THING AND DEALING WITH YOU JUST MAKES ME ABSOLUTELY SICK. EBAY, AS I SAID BEFORE AND WILL AGAIN, WILL SEE THROUGH OUR MESSAGES THAT SUCH A MESSAGE AS YOU CLAIM...WAS NEVER SENT! SO STOP...JUST STOP MAKING THIS WORSE FOR YOURSELF BECAUSE EVERYONE CAN SEE THROUGH YOUR BS NOW!! P.S. Keep up the BS because it s not doing you ANY favors. Your false allegations & continuous lies will be catching up to you VERY SOON! Trust me!!! Jul. 25 : The seller sent a message Comments: I tried to communicate to you that I no longer had the product in stock. I also tried to tell you that the product sent was a consolation along with your refund but you wouldn t talk to me. Jul. 25 : You sent a message Comments: NO...there is NOTHING to work out anymore! You SCREWED me over, PLAIN AND SIMPLE! You have wasted so MUCH of my time and energy with this crap! I truthfully hope that because you now committed mail fraud which IS a FEDERAL OFFENSE, that you pay for all of your stupid acts & decisions because I m absolutely fed up and done listening to your false promises and lies! YOU DESERVE EVERYTHING THAT WILL & IS COMING TO YOU! Just know, you brought this all upon yourself! If you WERE a truthful and honest seller you would have shipped the REAL product I ordered from you, not the crap I got AS I EXPECTED! Jul. 25 : The seller sent a message Comments: I tried to work this out with you. If you want to call me you can. Jul. 25 : The seller sent a message Comments: If you would like to discuss this via phone so we don t have to wait for escalation I am willing to Jul. 25 : You sent a message Comments: YOU dug yourself into a hole which I KNOW...you won t be able to dig yourself out of. The jig is up and you are seriously in some big trouble! MARK MY WORDS!!! Jul. 25 : You sent a message Comments: To seller: You are a sick person, you know that!? I hope you really don t think eBay is only going to refund me due to your fraudulent behavior and you are just going to get away scot-free! You are in some BIG trouble and I don t think you realize the seriousness of all this. You think it s all some kind of big game...you think you are really clever. I m here to tell you, you are not! You know you are GUILTY and all of the fun you had at my expense and this stupid game you have played with me, it s all over! You can continue to conjure up more BS messages & stories but the FACT STANDS...TODAY, the package arrived, it was the FINAL STRAW to determine you re true intentions and guess what? Huge Surprise... You sent me something else NOT by accident but because you keep trying to buy time with MY MONEY & with eBAY...You don t have the product you advertised because IF you did, it would have arrived today instead of the crap you gave me! You should be ASHAMED of yourself and TRUST me... Jul. 25 : You sent a message Comments: Also, I would like to reiterate to eBay, all this seller has done is played games with me and as I already said time and time again, I m done!!!! My money has been tied up with this dumb seller since July 15th and with today s BOGUS DELIVERY, it PROVED...that this low life scum, SCAMMED me of my money, NEVER had the REAL product I paid for... and is STILL trying to scam me and pull a fast one on you by sending me another item that you can buy in stores now for $20!!! He is just trying to buy time like he has from the beginning and I M SICK AND TIRED OF IT! I WANT MY MONEY BACK NOW!!! I m not going in circles with this transaction ANYMORE! I didn t get what I paid for...I WANT MY MONEY!!! All this seller does is make excuses and lie and I m sure he s not done lying either...it s a never ending cycle with this THIEF! Jul. 25 : The seller sent a message Comments: Attn:EBay please intervene here. I have spoken to customer service twice about this. Jul. 25 : You sent a message Comments: Attention eBAY: Not only did this seller NOW commit mail fraud but the refunds he claimed to have sent for a second time have now just been CANCELED! I m done with this scammer. He s a thief and I have all the documentation and the video to prove it! Jul. 25 : You sent a message Comments: The package was just delivered...I can t even begin to describe how pissed off I am! As I knew from the very beginning, this seller did not have this figure! He sent me an Ultimate Warrior figure, yes...but it s one you can buy in stores now in 2015. Completely different figure by a completely different company! You are such a piece of crap...I want you to know that. This proves you are a scammer and you used me for my money and EVERYTHING I said about you was TRUE! You just made a BAD situation into something much, MUCH worse! You have just committed mail fraud which can constitute for jail time and/or a HEFTY fine! And you can better damn well believe...I will be reporting you because THIS was the FINAL STRAW! What you may not realize is that I recorded EVERYTHING...from the time my mail deliverer pulled up to the time he left the package and I opened it! You are in such deep crap right now, it s not even funny...I m done playing your games & I m not waiting for my money anymore! Jul. 24 : The seller sent a message Comments: I see the tracking shows your package will be arriving soon. I hope all turns out well. If not we will have to escalate to EBAY. Jul. 23 : You sent a message Comments: I see the tracking number finally updated. If it s the actual product I purchased, if any refund goes through on my end, which is shows pending until the 28th of July, that money will be returned to the seller. Certainly hope it s what I ordered as that is all I wanted since the beginning of this transaction. Will keep this case updated when the package is actually delivered. Jul. 23 : The seller sent a message Comments: Attn: EBay and buyer I have sent another refund via PayPal to buyer. These are pending echecks that have a standard delay. If EBay refunds this buyer I will be seeking my money back Jul. 23 : The seller added tracking details Comments: I have been told this was scanned and shipped. I am not interested in the information the buyer is presenting. Jul. 23 : The seller sent a message Comments: Attn:EBay the refund of 194.36 is pending in the buyers PayPal account as I had to upload some funds from checking to cover it. I have proof it was sent. The rest of the refund will be sent via PayPal if the buyer still has an issue after the package has arrived. Again if EBay is going to refund this buyer I want my 194.36 back Jul. 23 : You sent a message Comments: $194.20 has NOT been received and $238.75 is not even showing up as pending in my Paypal account. My local post office JUST called me with a case number and double checked AGAIN, this tracking number and claims that only a label has been created! Nothing more. They advised me that they will call if by some slim chance anything changes. They have dealt with this before and they advised us that eBay will refund our money once it shows that nothing was ever delivered. I ve been on eBay for 15 years and tracking information updates within hours after a local facility receives it. It NEVER takes 24 hours. Jul. 23 : The seller sent a message Comments: Attn:EBay Tracking on the package will update within 24hrs. It has been shipped and will prove to be delivered. If you refund this buyer I want the partial refund I sent back. I sent 194.20 with a pending 237.85 if this buyer is still not satisfied. If EBay refunds this buyer I will not refund them. Jul. 23 : You sent a message Comments: To reiterate, I meant to say, he has been lying from the get-go! Jul. 23 : You sent a message Comments: Seller again contacted me, CLAIMS tracking number is updated...NO it is not! We checked for the 20th time. This seller is just a LIAR and has been get-co! You will see for yourselves when you check this tracking number on July 29th which is when I will be contacting you because I am sure NOTHING will be resolved until you step in! Just a WASTE of MY TIME! Jul. 23 : The seller sent a message Comments: Attn:EBay I attempted two full refunds via this portal and they both were denied. I have now sent a partial refund directly to buyer while the package ships. Tracking has been updated. If EBay is going to refund this buyer I want my 194.36 back from eBay that I have sent via PayPal to the buyer. I cannot help the delays PayPal puts on refunds. I am following eBay guidelines and I am not being protected as a seller from continued harassment. Jul. 23 : You sent a message Comments: Attention to eBay: I provided my Paypal address to this seller today and they proceeded to attempt a PARTIAL refund of $194.20 which shows will not be available until 07/28. When I asked about the remainder they AVOID a direct response. This is the 2nd time they claim to be sending funds. I NEVER got anything to date! They wanted to send me a check which I refused because I don t think it will ever come. I want the FULL amount in my Paypal account IMMEDIATELY from them and I don t want them to have anymore time concocting up stories. I spoke to the USPS moments ago and they have confirmed my suspicions that only a label has been created. They have opened up a case on their end as well. This person has also left me false retaliating feedback to make themselves look good. In addition to this, they claim they reported me for threatening them and they said they will never do business again on eBay. Please review all the documentation. Is there anyway eBay can refund me my money? Jul. 23 : The seller sent a message Comments: I have been trying to send money to your paypal. It says you can t receive money Jul. 23 : You sent a message Comments: NO MESSAGES WERE EVER RECEIVED WITH THIS INFORMATION! eBay can check all the correspondence themselves. You are NOT buying any more time! I want a refund ASAP! Again, what happened to supposed package with the tracking number that never left. Why don t you address that to eBay!? Jul. 23 : The seller sent a message Comments: As I stated in previous message refund will be sent again via PayPal or certified check. The first refund did not go through based on wrong account attached to my paypal. Simple error. No need for false statements. Jul. 23 : You didn't get the item You requested: A refund Comments: This person is a scammer! He put up a bogus listing of an item he never really had because I found the image he used via a Google search, same photo...same dimensions! As soon as I purchased his auction, he asked me for immediate payment and told me to enjoy my figure. I paid within minutes. Communication stopped on his part stopped for days after he received payment. I had concerns from the beginning, he avoided me. I told him I was going to report him to eBay, he then started responding again and told me he gave me a partial refund twice and mailed the figure. In checking days later & calling the USPS Customer Service line found that a label was printed and nothing more! Called Paypal...they advised he had NO money in Paypal and I needed to wait until July 22nd to get my money back from his other source. On July 22nd, Paypal advised that funds/refund didn t go through. I contacted seller, he called me every name in the book and NEVER responded to where my refund is. At this stage, I WANT MY FULL REFUND IMMEDIATELY! The tracking number information STILL has NOT updated...which means that nothing was ever mailed as I suspected! This kind of person should be booted from eBay! He just used me for a loan and nothing more and too much time has already been wasted with this whole ordeal! Please refund my money as it s almost $500.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2015 11:13:41 GMT -5
Boy am I glad I didn't pull the trigger! I feel bad for you bro. Hope you sort it
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Post by rvd3434 on Jul 25, 2015 11:16:15 GMT -5
Alright, so here is where I'm going to leave it. I'm DONE with this SCUM BAG! Going to be making some calls later today...I just need to take a breather from this annoying crap that I have dealt with for nearly 2 weeks now!
Here's what happened Jul. 25 : You sent a message Comments: I m going to be making a few calls shortly and reporting all of this. Right now, I have nothing else to say to you...you STILL have my money and you conned me from the start! Jul. 25 : You sent a message Comments: Also, this matter has certainly most NOT concluded! It IS Mail Fraud! YOU deceived me from the very beginning, stole my money & lied your way through this whole transaction! Don t think you have yourself covered/protected now because you say the thing you sent me is a consolation because you are doing me NO favors! You advertised the LJN Ultimate Warrior! THAT is what you said you mailed! THAT is what was supposed to be in my package! I have all the documentation that proves this and much more! You used your tactics and deceiving ways against me and eBay since July 15th and when you falsely sent me something that you knew I didn t purchase as part of your little SCAM...you involved the USPS which is owned by the Government! They don t play around! Your desperate means/methods of trying to back-peddle your way out of this now is not going to work! You committed MAIL FRAUD, a FEDERAL OFFENSE...It s cut and dry and NOW, YOU are going to deal with the consequences! Jul. 25 : The seller sent a message Comments: I respect and understand your position. I will no longer request a phone call. As I stated before the funds have cleared my bank and are depositing into my paypal for a faster refund. I will not admit any wrong doing except having the wrong bank account linked to my paypal which delayed your refund. I did not commit mail fraud. I made a mistake in trying to send you something as a consolation. I am truly sorry but again I didn t do anything with the purpose of scam. Jul. 25 : You sent a message Comments: No...I m not speaking to you indirectly from eBay. If you have something to say to me or eBay...you will respond in this case! The truth of the matter is this, you used my money as loan or to keep it in general. Admit it! Admit you NEVER had this figure. I m sick of these games with you! STOP MAKING THINGS UP! I ve had it up to hear with all of this. Again, you are only making this WORSE on YOU!!! Jul. 25 : You sent a message Comments: Also, it doesn t look like your overwhelmed through eBay in regards to packages...because looking at your selling history...you sold a HANDFUL of items in July. Hardly overwhelming. And NO you have not tried to solve this at all!! You continue to make things up at the spur of the moment and you only responded when I opened a case or when the details of the TRUTH FINALLY COME OUT! You don t care to resolve this...if you really did, I WOULD HAVE MY REFUND ALREADY! All you have done is LIE ABOUT EVERYTHING & BUY TIME with this damn situation you have created! Also, don t you DARE sit there and play the I m Innocent game with me! It doesn t take a damn Rocket Scientist to scam someone over the Internet! GIVE ME A BREAK! I just can t comprehend you at all... Jul. 25 : The seller sent a message Comments: Are you going to call me? It s very hard to explain any of this through these messages. I know what I put on the description. I put that on a lot of my listings. I understand all of your points and how it looks. Please call. Jul. 25 : You sent a message Comments: You don t have a leg to even stand on in this case, AT ALL! That is why you continuously LIE! Don t tell me that you are NOT knowledgeable...your other auctions deal with Ultimate Warrior, so you are clearly a fan of his which makes you a wrestling fan. Secondly, you asked $425 Buy it Now on this figure and in your description you put Moving Sale...CHEAP PRICE ! There, it s there CLEAR AS CRYSTAL, IN BLACK & WHITE...you said it yourself, CHEAP PRICE! You know EXACTLY how valuable this figure is and EXACTLY WHAT it is! ...so don t AGAIN BS ME AND LIE TO EBAY AND SAY YOU ARE NOT KNOWLEDGEABLE! And NO, you NEVER ONCE told me you had it in storage! The only thing you said was that it was SHIPPED Time & TIME AGAIN!...when it really wasn t because you didn t even bring the package to the Post Office until 07/23! And clearly it wasn t even the product I purchased! And again, you conjure about MORE LIES! Jul. 25 : The seller sent a message Comments: I was only trying to use eBay language. I am not very knowledgable about this stuff. All I thought was I had it in storage. I told you that. I see that the message I sent telling you that I am sending you a package and refund is still in drafts. That is my fault. As far as sending packages I have so many that went out I got overwhelmed. I am truly sorry I have been trying to solve this over and over again. I m not smart enough to to scam you. My bank shows the transfer of your funds to my PayPal account so the refund will be instant. I called them this morning before you got your package. Please just call me. You can at me a lot if you want to. It s hard to explain the issue over these emails. I will give you my number. Jul. 25 : You sent a message Comments: Also, you can t RUN OUT OF STOCK ! It s not an everyday thing that you find an Ultimate Warrior LJN in it s original package!! So don t LIE and make it seem like this is readily available! It s NOT because...it s VERY rare and VERY hard to find! In fact, a LJN Ultimate Warrior in package is one of the rarest wrestling items in existence, a quick search will tell a non-knowledgeable person in the field of wrestling merchandise that! If you truthfully had an Ultimate Warrior figure, which again...you NEVER did! ...you would have one...and IF you had one, you would know if you still had it! Plus, you claimed time and time again that you mailed it. I can t even begin to type this up because the LIES with YOU...NEVER CEASE! SO...FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, STOP LYING! Jul. 25 : The seller sent a message Comments: I still don t understand why this is mail fraud. Your refund was only put on hold for the EBay investigation. Refund on its way. This matter has concluded.
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Post by Boon on Jul 25, 2015 12:14:53 GMT -5
the seller is crapping it now it seems
hopefully you will get all your money back and keep the figure he sent you
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Post by rvd3434 on Jul 25, 2015 12:37:52 GMT -5
the seller is crapting it now it seems hopefully you will get all your money back and keep the figure he sent you He finally seems to get the picture that I'm not playing around anymore. He just refunded me $189.00. Told him I'm not paying the fees as it was $195.00. He said he will be getting the rest of the refund back to me no later than Sunday. I gave him the ultimatum, either pay me the rest I'm owed or I will be reporting him back to eBay and to my local USPS Inspector who will report this and upgrade my case to mail fraud. Some people... Can't wait until this hellish transaction is over!
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Post by Boon on Jul 25, 2015 12:41:52 GMT -5
let us know when you get it sorted
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Post by PVA on Jul 25, 2015 19:32:06 GMT -5
Ouch.....I recently bought a loose Ljn warrior in very good condition on eBay.
However, always check rating/feedback before buying from sellers. If he didn't have close to 100 stars I'd been cautious.
Too good to be true usually means that.
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Post by robbutler01 on Jul 26, 2015 2:26:10 GMT -5
an awful situation to be in but looks like the end is in site. long read but amazed that it went that far. oh well you can move on and hopefully find the figure soon!
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Post by ozz on Jul 26, 2015 7:10:32 GMT -5
That's ridiculous. I hope you scare him into making good, or PayPal helps (open a case with them/your credit card), or that ebay can help. Call ebay support and speak to a rep. I know that as a seller, I can call and get things going my way when I have a POS buyer trying to screw me over.
I just hope you don't have to rely on any government officials to help, because despite being clear cut mail fraud you'd be AMAZED at how little they will do for you even though the criminal fully admits everything. Been there done that with some lowlife who tried scamming me out of nearly 2000 and more from over half a dozen people. It took vigilante justice to get my money back, after being given the runaround by his local police for half a year. Complete and utter nonsense.
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Post by UltimateCollector78 on Jul 26, 2015 11:47:54 GMT -5
If Ebay has any sense, You will get refunded. There is not another MOC Warrior in sight
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2015 1:04:50 GMT -5
Hope you get your money back and this is an eye opening experience for me to always check feedback and the photos they put up.
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Post by rvd3434 on Jul 30, 2015 8:58:39 GMT -5
That's ridiculous. I hope you scare him into making good, or PayPal helps (open a case with them/your credit card), or that ebay can help. Call ebay support and speak to a rep. I know that as a seller, I can call and get things going my way when I have a POS buyer trying to screw me over. I just hope you don't have to rely on any government officials to help, because despite being clear cut mail fraud you'd be AMAZED at how little they will do for you even though the criminal fully admits everything. Been there done that with some lowlife who tried scamming me out of nearly 2000 and more from over half a dozen people. It took vigilante justice to get my money back, after being given the runaround by his local police for half a year. Complete and utter nonsense. So quick update on everything...got a full refund and he additionally sent me everything below as consolation for the BS transaction.
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Post by figurecollector on Jul 30, 2015 9:45:01 GMT -5
Glad it worked out for you.
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Post by UltimateCollector78 on Jul 30, 2015 12:15:07 GMT -5
The nerves on this a$$hole sending you a basic cena figure, that's it I think you should seek legal action.
Glad everything worked out though
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Post by hh2trotts on Jul 30, 2015 15:39:26 GMT -5
ICANCU my friend reached out to the seller after you bought it now and said if your buyer for whatever reason doesnt pay you id be interested in the item. He didnt hear anything until this past Saturday. The seller reached out to him and said his buyer backed out and that he could do the deal as long as he understood my friend would have to pay now but he couldnt ship it for two+ weeks because he is on vacation.
Obviously this was BS. I think you have a really good chance of this dude having committed mail fraud.
I had a customer threaten to send me a box of rocks as a return item once. I asked my mail carrier not to deliver the package when he sees it but to instead leave me a notice to pick it up. I went to the post office to pick it up and had my wife record me taking it from the postal worker, signing for it and then moving 2 feet to the side and opening it. Sure enough Box of rocks instead of the toy I sent them. I could have made this buyers life an absolute nightmare. Instead I sent the fraud buyer a copy of the videa via email and told him to send me $$$ back + $25 for wasting my time, leave positive feedback amd to get lost. Not trying to be a hard A** about things but scammers drive me nuts and I dont play by the rules when it comes to dealing with them.
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Post by kkorean34 on Jul 31, 2015 21:37:30 GMT -5
Good luck. I've had trouble with a seller that did something similar, but I think it was USPS fault. The package kept getting routed back and forth between two cities. I never got an answer from USPS except that the tracking appeared it was delivered somewhere. By then it was too late and eBay wouldn't do anything.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2015 1:21:07 GMT -5
Its good you got something for your trouble this is a good lesson to all
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2015 19:50:34 GMT -5
You have no idea how crossed my fingers were while I read Icancu's story. Man I'm sorry to hear that crap happened.
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