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Post by BSR on Aug 7, 2017 21:52:56 GMT -5
Legion was excellent too. Maybe they are working on the right level. It's about time they get on the Neville Level. Wendy's is looking for someone on the Neville level.
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Post by Word™ on Aug 8, 2017 0:32:50 GMT -5
Who would have thought Deadpool would end up being the flagship franchise of FOX when they own the entire X-Men property.. Josh Brolin looks amazing.. Much better than Domino.. He looks like he's ready to help carry the Franchise with Reynolds. I never thought Josh Brolin could become a bigger star than he is, but damn I was so ![](http://www.wrestlingfigs.com/images/wfcensored.gif) ing wrong.. Cable AND Thanos.. Which are two of the most anticipated films of the last decade. He will be a household name if he already wasn't.
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Post by JokerFC on Aug 8, 2017 5:27:03 GMT -5
Cable looks great........
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Post by Cameron Stone on Aug 8, 2017 6:54:14 GMT -5
Cable looks good. Still don't give a crap about the movie, but Cable looks good
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Post by Hem-Ridge on Aug 8, 2017 11:06:18 GMT -5
Someone just posted some set photos of Cable, looks like he's based on this look Set photos My main concern is with Domino, she looks awful.
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Post by punksnotdead on Aug 8, 2017 12:22:13 GMT -5
I think giving Domino an afro is really hurting the perception people have of the character. It feels so out of place, like Leto and his grill and tattoos. If you give her more of a Halle Berry style haircut I think people would get over the aesthetic of her not having white skin with the black eye mutation. Although, someone said she looks like Barf from Spaceballs and now I can't unsee that... so maybe not.
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Post by marino13 on Aug 8, 2017 22:30:35 GMT -5
Supposedly Marvel and Sony are fighting over Spider Man villains. Kevin Feige wants Mysterio & Kraven for the HC sequel. But Sony wants to save them in case they want them for Venom & Silver & Black.
I wish Sony would realize the majority of fans have no interest in their universe. HC laid a great ground work, and I'd be devastated if it ended prematurely.
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Post by cordless2016 on Aug 8, 2017 22:57:29 GMT -5
Supposedly Marvel and Sony are fighting over Spider Man villains. Kevin Feige wants Mysterio & Kraven for the HC sequel. But Sony wants to save them in case they want them for Venom & Silver & Black. I wish Sony would realize the majority of fans have no interest in their universe. HC laid a great ground work, and I'd be devastated if it ended prematurely. I've been saying that this will end bad for a while. Sony has no clue how great of a deal they have with Marvel and are gonna blow it. I wouldn't be surprised if they eventually write Peter off by saying he went to college and we don't see him again. Sony is messing this up big time.
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Post by IRS on Aug 9, 2017 1:44:16 GMT -5
Supposedly Marvel and Sony are fighting over Spider Man villains. Kevin Feige wants Mysterio & Kraven for the HC sequel. But Sony wants to save them in case they want them for Venom & Silver & Black. I wish Sony would realize the majority of fans have no interest in their universe. HC laid a great ground work, and I'd be devastated if it ended prematurely. Of course Marvel are the ones who want to do Mysterio & Kraven. And of course Sony wants to ruin it. ![](http://www.wrestlingfigs.com/images/wfcensored.gif) off and die, Sony.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2017 3:05:23 GMT -5
Supposedly Marvel and Sony are fighting over Spider Man villains. Kevin Feige wants Mysterio & Kraven for the HC sequel. But Sony wants to save them in case they want them for Venom & Silver & Black. I wish Sony would realize the majority of fans have no interest in their universe. HC laid a great ground work, and I'd be devastated if it ended prematurely. Jesus ![](http://www.wrestlingfigs.com/images/wfcensored.gif) ing Christ, just give me Kraven already!
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Post by JokerFC on Aug 9, 2017 4:35:11 GMT -5
Supposedly Marvel and Sony are fighting over Spider Man villains. Kevin Feige wants Mysterio & Kraven for the HC sequel. But Sony wants to save them in case they want them for Venom & Silver & Black. I wish Sony would realize the majority of fans have no interest in their universe. HC laid a great ground work, and I'd be devastated if it ended prematurely. Not good.......... Also Dominos look is ridiculous. I'm so disappointed. She is one of my absolute fave female characters and they have blown her look 100%. Bah.
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Post by punksnotdead on Aug 9, 2017 9:05:41 GMT -5
Homecoming still hasn't passed a single previous Spider-man installment for a WW box office number. Not sure if it's been released in China yet, so maybe that's the big push it needs, but it's not like Homecoming is setting the world on fire. Homecoming was good, not great, and the financials are good, not great. So from Sony's perspective, they just got Iron Man for a 2 hour movie and it really didn't make a huge financial difference. Domestically, and adjusted for inflation, they will probably see an uptick of about $10-15 million over TAS when the Homecoming run is over.
I love the MCU, and Spider-man being apart of it is awesome, but Homecoming is not having the kind of success that would give Disney any leverage over Sony imo. So I'm not particularly shocked to hear that they're going to continue to jockey over characters and how this whole deal is going to continue to work. I'd love to see Mysterio and Kraven in the sequel, and I don't think Silver & Black should ever be a thing that exists, but the hard reality is that Sony owns the rights to Spider-man. The fact they've even done this much to lease Spidey out is a miracle. I think it's give and take though. If Venom turns out well then Feige needs to cross Venom into the MCU. I feel the channel should flow both ways and Feige seems to be acting like a jackwagon about that so far.
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Post by JokerFC on Aug 9, 2017 11:46:59 GMT -5
my question is.....how does Venom even exist here? And theres rumors about Carnage being the villain? WTF is going on.....In this respect Feige is right to be blowing his stack. Sonys getting ready to blow about 4 Spidey movies in one.
I was reading about HCs financials last night myself.....It isn't impressive at all despite a sterling start. Its weird because Word of Mouth & reviews are all positive.
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Post by cordless2016 on Aug 9, 2017 15:09:12 GMT -5
my question is.....how does Venom even exist here? And theres rumors about Carnage being the villain? WTF is going on.....In this respect Feige is right to be blowing his stack. Sonys getting ready to blow about 4 Spidey movies in one. I was reading about HCs financials last night myself.....It isn't impressive at all despite a sterling start. Its weird because Word of Mouth & reviews are all positive. Sadly it's just character fatigue. We've had 3 different Spider-Man franchises in 15 years. Audiences are tired of him, especially after the lackluster ASM and critically panned ASM2. Had they made this deal after the Rami trilogy, I think we'd be seeing better numbers. Problem is we had two movies in between that just tired audiences of the character. People can say a character like Batman is overdone, but he's been rebooted once since 2005, and both versions are drastically different from each other. Besides changing a few asthetics, the Garfield Spider-Man movies were basically unnecessary remakes of the Rami movies, and panned compared to the first two Rami movies as well. HC was a good movie but the damage has already been done to the franchise IMO.
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Post by TheLastDude on Aug 9, 2017 15:29:54 GMT -5
Homecoming still hasn't passed a single previous Spider-man installment for a WW box office number. Not sure if it's been released in China yet, so maybe that's the big push it needs, but it's not like Homecoming is setting the world on fire. Homecoming was good, not great, and the financials are good, not great. So from Sony's perspective, they just got Iron Man for a 2 hour movie and it really didn't make a huge financial difference. Domestically, and adjusted for inflation, they will probably see an uptick of about $10-15 million over TAS when the Homecoming run is over. I love the MCU, and Spider-man being apart of it is awesome, but Homecoming is not having the kind of success that would give Disney any leverage over Sony imo. So I'm not particularly shocked to hear that they're going to continue to jockey over characters and how this whole deal is going to continue to work. I'd love to see Mysterio and Kraven in the sequel, and I don't think Silver & Black should ever be a thing that exists, but the hard reality is that Sony owns the rights to Spider-man. The fact they've even done this much to lease Spidey out is a miracle. I think it's give and take though. If Venom turns out well then Feige needs to cross Venom into the MCU. I feel the channel should flow both ways and Feige seems to be acting like a jackwagon about that so far. That may be true, but let's be real here, it's because people are burned out a bit by all this flip-flopping crap. 2007 is when Spider-Man 3 came out. 2016 is when Civil War came out. In nine years we had three different guys playing Spidey in three different universes. People can tell that Sony doesn't have their crap together like Marvel does. Regardless of the numbers, Sony needs to let Marvel take the reigns on this and dictate where the characters go and what they do. I understand that they don't have all that much else aside from the Spider-Man franchise, but they don't even really have that either. The fact that they have seriously considered an Aunt May movie, and the fact that they want to do a movie about Black Cat and Silver Sable for God's sake...well, that proves they don't know their ass from a hole in the ground.
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Post by punksnotdead on Aug 9, 2017 15:57:05 GMT -5
Homecoming still hasn't passed a single previous Spider-man installment for a WW box office number. Not sure if it's been released in China yet, so maybe that's the big push it needs, but it's not like Homecoming is setting the world on fire. Homecoming was good, not great, and the financials are good, not great. So from Sony's perspective, they just got Iron Man for a 2 hour movie and it really didn't make a huge financial difference. Domestically, and adjusted for inflation, they will probably see an uptick of about $10-15 million over TAS when the Homecoming run is over. I love the MCU, and Spider-man being apart of it is awesome, but Homecoming is not having the kind of success that would give Disney any leverage over Sony imo. So I'm not particularly shocked to hear that they're going to continue to jockey over characters and how this whole deal is going to continue to work. I'd love to see Mysterio and Kraven in the sequel, and I don't think Silver & Black should ever be a thing that exists, but the hard reality is that Sony owns the rights to Spider-man. The fact they've even done this much to lease Spidey out is a miracle. I think it's give and take though. If Venom turns out well then Feige needs to cross Venom into the MCU. I feel the channel should flow both ways and Feige seems to be acting like a jackwagon about that so far. That may be true, but let's be real here, it's because people are burned out a bit by all this flip-flopping crap. 2007 is when Spider-Man 3 came out. 2016 is when Civil War came out. In nine years we had three different guys playing Spidey in three different universes. People can tell that Sony doesn't have their crap together like Marvel does. Regardless of the numbers, Sony needs to let Marvel take the reigns on this and dictate where the characters go and what they do. I understand that they don't have all that much else aside from the Spider-Man franchise, but they don't even really have that either. The fact that they have seriously considered an Aunt May movie, and the fact that they want to do a movie about Black Cat and Silver Sable for God's sake...well, that proves they don't know their ass from a hole in the ground. I don't disagree with any of this. However, the people at Sony don't know that they're wrong and nothing financially coming out of Homecoming is telling them that they're wrong. I'm just playing DA here and saying from their perspective, they don't have any reason to believe that what Feige is doing is any better than their own projects. I totally agree that fans are fatigued on the character, sadly, but I'd rather have Sony and Feige create a world, somewhat, together over having these two bizarro universes that Sony thinks is all one but the MCU only half acknowledges. That's bad for everyone. Also, I've seen the Aunt May movie. It was fire.
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Post by Cameron Stone on Aug 9, 2017 23:59:55 GMT -5
Homecoming may not be a financial juggernaut, but I still think Disney has leverage. It's reception has been great. I'm assuming it will have stronger home video sales than Amazing Spiderman 2 did. But the fact that it was recieved well indicates a good chance the second one's take will increase over Homecoming, whereas ASM2 dropped from the first one if I'm remembering correctly.
Plus fatigue is a factor. Despite it's huge financial success, Spidey 3 was recieved terribly. Then we had a reboot nobody wanted, which was recieved mediocre, and went over the origin again, which nobody wanted. Then we had a sequel that was not very good and recieved terribly. So literally the three preceding films starring the character have been kind of a mess.
Now that some faith has been restored we will likely see the stock rise. Plus Spidey is going to be in Avengers 3/4, arguably two of the biggest films of all time, further essentially building up and advertising the sequel to homecoming. That's Disney's leverage. it may run out after 2019, but Sony has no reason to rush before then.
Plus, it's mid 2017. Sony hasn't really started on the spinoffs yet, so nothing would likely drop before fall 2019 at the earliest. By that point, Avengers 3/4 and Homecoming 2 already have come out, the big MCU arc is complete, Spidey kicks off phase 4. If Homecoming 2 disappoints, Don't can pull away then without really hurting Marvel or themselves. That would be the logical point to reevaluate everything, Summer 2019
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Post by JokerFC on Aug 10, 2017 4:27:42 GMT -5
Oh character faitigue is a huge thing with Spidey-its something folks were bound to be aware of and fearful of in the studio system.
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Post by Angel Beast on Aug 11, 2017 6:21:31 GMT -5
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Post by Rule 30 on Aug 12, 2017 19:33:20 GMT -5
Spider-Homecoming hasn't been a mind blowing smash hit, but it has already surpassed both Amazing Spider-Man movies at the domestic box office. Currently sits at a little over $300 million compared to $262 million for the first and $202 million for the second. It's grossed $670 million worldwide so far, and has yet to be released in China or Japan. I think it could reasonably cross over $800 million in the worldwide box office, easily surpassing both Amazing Spider-Man movies again... even with franchise fatigue. And I imagine Homecoming is going to sell even more when it comes to DVD and the like. I think Marvel/Disney have proved they know how to make more money with Spidey than Sony does.
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