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Post by tedwaynegein on Jul 30, 2015 12:08:11 GMT -5
Thin JBL torso, WM elite Undertaker with no tie, HOF Slaughter without red elbow pads.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2015 12:27:00 GMT -5
All if Edge's headscans and that fact the his Elites use the small torso. He should be using the terry funk torso or even the Del Dio/Sheamus/Sandow torso would be better.
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Post by The Outsider on Jul 30, 2015 12:55:53 GMT -5
My biggest was reading this thread... I just LOL'd.
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Post by Yambag Jones on Jul 30, 2015 13:08:23 GMT -5
MDT's biggest botch is when they rolled a 1 on a d20.
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Post by The Gang on Jul 30, 2015 13:09:27 GMT -5
My biggest was reading this thread... lol! Well at least you are reading and you'll get some great input from most of the guys here. So can you comment on if we might ever see a Big John Studd Flashback or HOF figure?
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Post by marino13 on Jul 30, 2015 13:12:12 GMT -5
I'm usually very pleased with Mattel, but their Barry Windham was bittersweet IMO. Glad to finally have one, but disappointed with the head choice.
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Post by East Coast on Jul 30, 2015 13:38:19 GMT -5
Tyler Breeze wrong glove problem. That pissed me off more than it should. yeah...tylers handwraps being colored on the wrong hands and HOF eddies pants colors...being on the wrong leg. its not so much the figures that annoys me....as it is the thought behind it. The thought that nobody actually knew that it was wrong, or cared enough to check.
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Post by RybackV1 on Jul 30, 2015 13:38:59 GMT -5
I'm usually very pleased with Mattel, but their Barry Windham was bittersweet IMO. Glad to finally have one, but disappointed with the head choice. I love that figure minus the stupid ponytail. Mine already seems like it has a crack and will fall off soon. I'm having Jakks flashback nightmares.
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Post by MWFD on Jul 30, 2015 13:41:13 GMT -5
I don't know if this is the standard "botch" the OP had intended to discuss, but to me, this is a huge mistake, and actually, several. The fact that Mattel did not release a 1990 Hulk Rules Hulk Hogan and a Hollywood Hogan within the first year of having his contract is a big, huge missed opportunity and was a terrible decision on the part of the toy giant. I understand Mattel figured they would have years to produce Hulk Hogan figures and they didn't need to "rush", but the fact that these two attires weren't among the first to be produced was an awful decision and now their customers are paying for it.
Granted, no one could have predicted this whole thing happening with Hogan but Mattel has been in the toy business for decades and should be well aware of the risks involved with licensing. Mattel knew this was a possibility–not that Hogan would go on a racist tirade–but that, especially in the WWE, contracts are dissolved all the time for various reasons and often times with little notice, and leaving the company on not-so-good terms with the contractor. Also, I've heard of Mattel holding some high standards in terms of who they create action figures of. This is not a bad thing at all, but considering Hogan had a sex tape out there (with his good friend's wife, no less), shouldn't this have been a red flag to Mattel that they may not have been dealing with the most wholesome person here? It is all the more reason to make the time you have producing his toys count, and to put the focus on satisfying their customers' demands. People weren't exactly energized by the thought of 3 separate Hogan figures with black jeans and black sneakers from 2014. Mattel ignored their fanbase, and I'll say it again, we're the ones who are paying for it now. Sure, Mattel is missing out on the revenue those Hogan figures would've brought, but they'll make it up somewhere else. The collectors, unfortunately, can't do that.
In my opinion, the only attire choice Mattel got right was the first one they did with the Defining Moments/WrestleMania III 1987 Hulk Hogan. Beyond that, it was all wrong, each one worse than the next. How many basic versions of current, black jeans wearing Hogan did we get within the first 6 months? It feels like 20. Then we got a basic version of the 1987 Hogan, with a not-so-critically-acclaimed headscan. If you're counting, so far that's 2 for 1987, and at least 2 for 2014. Next, we got ANOTHER current, black jeans Hogan almost identical to the previous basic versions already made, but this time in Elite form. Of all the figures Mattel decided to redo from an already made basic, they chose this?! Come on Mattel, it's getting to be egregious. The only thing Mattel did right for the E34 release was add a Hulk Rules shirt, but that is like being the first one to call the fire department after you've already burnt half your house down - it doesn't exactly make things OK, does it? Shall I continue? I think I will.
We next get a figure of arguably the most hated version of the Hulk Hogan character ever - the WrestleMania IX Hogan! Yay! Now full disclosure, I absolutely love this figure, but it wouldn't exactly be on my list of top 5 Hogan figures that Mattel needs to make upon acquiring the rights to produce him. After WrestleMania IX Hogan, we finally get another immortal Hulk Hogan in tights wearing his iconic color of...BLUE!?!? That's right, American Made Hulk Hogan was released as a Ringside Collectibles Exclusive. We pretty much got Rip before we got Hollywood. I think you get my point, and I believe that makes six figures. Six figures of Hulk Hogan were released since Mattel had his rights and all but 1 were huge strikeouts. And just in case you weren't around during Hogan's heyday and are curious as to what the most popular/iconic designs are, I've listed my opinion below:
1. Hulk Rules (1990) 2. WrestleMania III (1987) 3. Hollywood Hogan (1997) 4. Hulk Still Rules (2002) 5. WCW Hogan (1995)
Keep in mind I would throw 1991 Python Power in there too if it wasn't very similar to Hulk Rules. While this is just my opinion, and the order my vary as far as popularity goes, I think the majority of wrestling fans would agree. Even if they had 1 or 2 differences (and even that I would doubt), there's still no excuse for the Hogan lineup we got from 2014-2015.
I understand that Mattel was probably pacing themselves and wanted to get a current Hogan on the shelves for the children that watch the current product of today, but that doesn't explain why out of 6 figures, we only received 1 from the above list. And quite frankly, there is no good explanation aside from the notion that Mattel just plain screwed up and got greedy. So just to summarize, it isn't Mattel's fault that WWE decided to have them halt production on anything related to the guy who thinks banging his buddy's wife is acceptable type of behavior, but I do hold Mattel accountable for their poor choices of attires they decided to get to market during the 18 months of his contract with WWE. They should be very disappointed with whomever made these decisions.
I just want to end this little rant by saying, despite what my multi-paragraph post above looks like, I'm not that mad about it, but I do want to call it out as I think Mattel should be held accountable for their poor choices here. I love the work that Mattel has done with their WWE license for the most part. No company is perfect and they've had their mistakes here and there, but ultimately, I feel the products they have put out have been the best line of action figures in the history of the WWF/WWE license. I love Bill's work and dedication to the line, especially the legends/flashbacks as that's all I collect. Finally, even though the handling of Hulk Hogan's rights was a big swing-and-a-miss, Mattel has done a really good job with the WWE line, and I hope they only get better.
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Post by 0y2jericho0 on Jul 30, 2015 13:47:38 GMT -5
For at least the figures I own, which isn't much, but the flashback E31 (I think) "Hollywood" Rock hair is very stupid. From the front it is ok, but from the back it looks god awful.
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Post by | NLS™ | on Jul 30, 2015 13:52:16 GMT -5
Short boots on BA Billy Gunn.
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Post by East Coast on Jul 30, 2015 13:56:41 GMT -5
I'm usually very pleased with Mattel, but their Barry Windham was bittersweet IMO. Glad to finally have one, but disappointed with the head choice. I love that figure minus the stupid ponytail. Mine already seems like it has a crack and will fall off soon. I'm having Jakks flashback nightmares. yeh, im actually loving the Barry Windham figure
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Post by RybackV1 on Jul 30, 2015 13:58:19 GMT -5
I love that figure minus the stupid ponytail. Mine already seems like it has a crack and will fall off soon. I'm having Jakks flashback nightmares. yeh, im actually loving the Barry Windham figure Same. It's actually had me watching his old Widowmaker matches and I'm really enjoying them. I might make the figures finisher that Rollins Superplex combo now tho after seeing it on Monday. Lol
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Post by ZDB on Jul 30, 2015 14:01:36 GMT -5
I love that figure minus the stupid ponytail. Mine already seems like it has a crack and will fall off soon. I'm having Jakks flashback nightmares. yeh, im actually loving the Barry Windham figure It's a great looking figure but I think that long hair Windham would've made this 100x better
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Post by RybackV1 on Jul 30, 2015 14:05:15 GMT -5
Using bodybuilder jakked steroid torsos on pre 2011 Rocks. That one really really gets me annoyed. It ruins what could've been an amazing RSC Rock. ing shame.
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Post by RybackV1 on Jul 30, 2015 14:06:26 GMT -5
yeh, im actually loving the Barry Windham figure It's a great looking figure but I think that long hair Windham would've made this 100x better Did he wrestle with brown hair at all besides that little NWA run in 1998 WWF? As weird as it sounds , maybe the hornswoggle wig could work?
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Post by RybackV1 on Jul 30, 2015 14:10:46 GMT -5
I don't know if this is the standard "botch" the OP had intended to discuss, but to me, this is a huge mistake, and actually, several. The fact that Mattel did not release a 1990 Hulk Rules Hulk Hogan and a Hollywood Hogan within the first year of having his contract is a big, huge missed opportunity and was a terrible decision on the part of the toy giant. I understand Mattel figured they would have years to produce Hulk Hogan figures and they didn't need to "rush", but the fact that these two attires weren't among the first to be produced was an awful decision and now their customers are paying for it. Granted, no one could have predicted this whole thing happening with Hogan but Mattel has been in the toy business for decades and should be well aware of the risks involved with licensing. Mattel knew this was a possibility–not that Hogan would go on a racist tirade–but that, especially in the WWE, contracts are dissolved all the time for various reasons and often times with little notice, and leaving the company on not-so-good terms with the contractor. Also, I've heard of Mattel holding some high standards in terms of who they create action figures of. This is not a bad thing at all, but considering Hogan had a sex tape out there (with his good friend's wife, no less), shouldn't this have been a red flag to Mattel that they may not have been dealing with the most wholesome person here? It is all the more reason to make the time you have producing his toys count, and to put the focus on satisfying their customers' demands. People weren't exactly energized by the thought of 3 separate Hogan figures with black jeans and black sneakers from 2014. Mattel ignored their fanbase, and I'll say it again, we're the ones who are paying for it now. Sure, Mattel is missing out on the revenue those Hogan figures would've brought, but they'll make it up somewhere else. The collectors, unfortunately, can't do that. In my opinion, the only attire choice Mattel got right was the first one they did with the Defining Moments/WrestleMania III 1987 Hulk Hogan. Beyond that, it was all wrong, each one worse than the next. How many basic versions of current, black jeans wearing Hogan did we get within the first 6 months? It feels like 20. Then we got a basic version of the 1987 Hogan, with a not-so-critically-acclaimed headscan. If you're counting, so far that's 2 for 1987, and at least 2 for 2014. Next, we got ANOTHER current, black jeans Hogan almost identical to the previous basic versions already made, but this time in Elite form. Of all the figures Mattel decided to redo from an already made basic, they chose this?! Come on Mattel, it's getting to be egregious. The only thing Mattel did right for the E34 release was add a Hulk Rules shirt, but that is like being the first one to call the fire department after you've already burnt half your house down - it doesn't exactly make things OK, does it? Shall I continue? I think I will. We next get a figure of arguably the most hated version of the Hulk Hogan character ever - the WrestleMania IX Hogan! Yay! Now full disclosure, I absolutely love this figure, but it wouldn't exactly be on my list of top 5 Hogan figures that Mattel needs to make upon acquiring the rights to produce him. After WrestleMania IX Hogan, we finally get another immortal Hulk Hogan in tights wearing his iconic color of...BLUE!?!? That's right, American Made Hulk Hogan was released as a Ringside Collectibles Exclusive. We pretty much got Rip before we got Hollywood. I think you get my point, and I believe that makes six figures. Six figures of Hulk Hogan were released since Mattel had his rights and all but 1 were huge strikeouts. And just in case you weren't around during Hogan's heyday and are curious as to what the most popular/iconic designs are, I've listed my opinion below: 1. Hulk Rules (1990) 2. WrestleMania III (1987) 3. Hollywood Hogan (1997) 4. Hulk Still Rules (2002) 5. WCW Hogan (1995) Keep in mind I would throw 1991 Python Power in there too if it wasn't very similar to Hulk Rules. While this is just my opinion, and the order my vary as far as popularity goes, I think the majority of wrestling fans would agree. Even if they had 1 or 2 differences (and even that I would doubt), there's still no excuse for the Hogan lineup we got from 2014-2015. I understand that Mattel was probably pacing themselves and wanted to get a current Hogan on the shelves for the children that watch the current product of today, but that doesn't explain why out of 6 figures, we only received 1 from the above list. And quite frankly, there is no good explanation aside from the notion that Mattel just plain screwed up and got greedy. So just to summarize, it isn't Mattel's fault that WWE decided to have them halt production on anything related to the guy who thinks banging his buddy's wife is acceptable type of behavior, but I do hold Mattel accountable for their poor choices of attires they decided to get to market during the 18 months of his contract with WWE. They should be very disappointed with whomever made these decisions. I just want to end this little rant by saying, despite what my multi-paragraph post above looks like, I'm not that mad about it, but I do want to call it out as I think Mattel should be held accountable for their poor choices here. I love the work that Mattel has done with their WWE license for the most part. No company is perfect and they've had their mistakes here and there, but ultimately, I feel the products they have put out have been the best line of action figures in the history of the WWF/WWE license. I love Bill's work and dedication to the line, especially the legends/flashbacks as that's all I collect. Finally, even though the handling of Hulk Hogan's rights was a big swing-and-a-miss, Mattel has done a really good job with the WWE line, and I hope they only get better. Easily one of the best explanations I've seen here as to why we are justified in being mad at this Hogan stuff. Great post man.
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Post by The Outsider on Jul 30, 2015 14:12:58 GMT -5
The only botch on Mattel's behalf that ever irritated me was when I opened my Amazon Mankind to find a foot put on BACKWARDS! C'mon, where's the quality control there? what made the whole situation truly unpleasant was when I complained about it on here, and all the apologists flamed me for days!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2015 14:13:37 GMT -5
I don't know if this is the standard "botch" the OP had intended to discuss, but to me, this is a huge mistake, and actually, several. The fact that Mattel did not release a 1990 Hulk Rules Hulk Hogan and a Hollywood Hogan within the first year of having his contract is a big, huge missed opportunity and was a terrible decision on the part of the toy giant. I understand Mattel figured they would have years to produce Hulk Hogan figures and they didn't need to "rush", but the fact that these two attires weren't among the first to be produced was an awful decision and now their customers are paying for it. Granted, no one could have predicted this whole thing happening with Hogan but Mattel has been in the toy business for decades and should be well aware of the risks involved with licensing. Mattel knew this was a possibility–not that Hogan would go on a racist tirade–but that, especially in the WWE, contracts are dissolved all the time for various reasons and often times with little notice, and leaving the company on not-so-good terms with the contractor. Also, I've heard of Mattel holding some high standards in terms of who they create action figures of. This is not a bad thing at all, but considering Hogan had a sex tape out there (with his good friend's wife, no less), shouldn't this have been a red flag to Mattel that they may not have been dealing with the most wholesome person here? It is all the more reason to make the time you have producing his toys count, and to put the focus on satisfying their customers' demands. People weren't exactly energized by the thought of 3 separate Hogan figures with black jeans and black sneakers from 2014. Mattel ignored their fanbase, and I'll say it again, we're the ones who are paying for it now. Sure, Mattel is missing out on the revenue those Hogan figures would've brought, but they'll make it up somewhere else. The collectors, unfortunately, can't do that. In my opinion, the only attire choice Mattel got right was the first one they did with the Defining Moments/WrestleMania III 1987 Hulk Hogan. Beyond that, it was all wrong, each one worse than the next. How many basic versions of current, black jeans wearing Hogan did we get within the first 6 months? It feels like 20. Then we got a basic version of the 1987 Hogan, with a not-so-critically-acclaimed headscan. If you're counting, so far that's 2 for 1987, and at least 2 for 2014. Next, we got ANOTHER current, black jeans Hogan almost identical to the previous basic versions already made, but this time in Elite form. Of all the figures Mattel decided to redo from an already made basic, they chose this?! Come on Mattel, it's getting to be egregious. The only thing Mattel did right for the E34 release was add a Hulk Rules shirt, but that is like being the first one to call the fire department after you've already burnt half your house down - it doesn't exactly make things OK, does it? Shall I continue? I think I will. We next get a figure of arguably the most hated version of the Hulk Hogan character ever - the WrestleMania IX Hogan! Yay! Now full disclosure, I absolutely love this figure, but it wouldn't exactly be on my list of top 5 Hogan figures that Mattel needs to make upon acquiring the rights to produce him. After WrestleMania IX Hogan, we finally get another immortal Hulk Hogan in tights wearing his iconic color of...BLUE!?!? That's right, American Made Hulk Hogan was released as a Ringside Collectibles Exclusive. We pretty much got Rip before we got Hollywood. I think you get my point, and I believe that makes six figures. Six figures of Hulk Hogan were released since Mattel had his rights and all but 1 were huge strikeouts. And just in case you weren't around during Hogan's heyday and are curious as to what the most popular/iconic designs are, I've listed my opinion below: 1. Hulk Rules (1990) 2. WrestleMania III (1987) 3. Hollywood Hogan (1997) 4. Hulk Still Rules (2002) 5. WCW Hogan (1995) Keep in mind I would throw 1991 Python Power in there too if it wasn't very similar to Hulk Rules. While this is just my opinion, and the order my vary as far as popularity goes, I think the majority of wrestling fans would agree. Even if they had 1 or 2 differences (and even that I would doubt), there's still no excuse for the Hogan lineup we got from 2014-2015. I understand that Mattel was probably pacing themselves and wanted to get a current Hogan on the shelves for the children that watch the current product of today, but that doesn't explain why out of 6 figures, we only received 1 from the above list. And quite frankly, there is no good explanation aside from the notion that Mattel just plain screwed up and got greedy. So just to summarize, it isn't Mattel's fault that WWE decided to have them halt production on anything related to the guy who thinks banging his buddy's wife is acceptable type of behavior, but I do hold Mattel accountable for their poor choices of attires they decided to get to market during the 18 months of his contract with WWE. They should be very disappointed with whomever made these decisions. I just want to end this little rant by saying, despite what my multi-paragraph post above looks like, I'm not that mad about it, but I do want to call it out as I think Mattel should be held accountable for their poor choices here. I love the work that Mattel has done with their WWE license for the most part. No company is perfect and they've had their mistakes here and there, but ultimately, I feel the products they have put out have been the best line of action figures in the history of the WWF/WWE license. I love Bill's work and dedication to the line, especially the legends/flashbacks as that's all I collect. Finally, even though the handling of Hulk Hogan's rights was a big swing-and-a-miss, Mattel has done a really good job with the WWE line, and I hope they only get better. Post of the decade.
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Post by stratusfaction23 on Jul 30, 2015 14:17:33 GMT -5
The giant Emma with the weird wrinkly flesh tone tights legs.
Also the summerslam heritage triple h. One of my fave attires for triple h and the whole figure is underwhelming. The torso is way too small and the purple on the tights is off, should have been a more metallic color. Not a fan of the hair sculpt either. It also would have been better off as an elite.
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