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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2015 8:46:43 GMT -5
would have loved to see him face the Wyatt family, Brock Lesnar, Chris Jericho, John Cena, Randy Orton, The Rock, Roman Reigns, and biggest of all Taker but there doesn't seem to be much set up for him for anything let alone something good
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Post by marino13 on Jul 31, 2015 8:59:48 GMT -5
Riddle me this Batman...
Perhaps Sting only has a contract for X-amount of matches a year. Let's say it's only 3. At 56 years old, 3 is a plausible number. Well maybe WWE's philosophy is rather than shoehorn him into a spot they don't really need him for, they'd rather just wait and used him when it makes more sense? Maybe they recently decided to use those dates for his build up to WM? Of coarse the dirt-sheets aren't going to know WWE's intentions or reasoning, so they just run with the article that "WWE just ditched Sting". And fans go into an uproar without justification.
Just a thought.
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Post by TheLastDude on Jul 31, 2015 14:28:35 GMT -5
On one hand: Would you really be shocked if the WWE couldn't figure out how best to use a wrestler? Hell, they don't have solid programs for most of the roster as it is. On the other hand: Sting is 56 now. Regardless of how good a shape he is in, there's danger there. Would you want to take a chance on Sting blowing out his knee or his back in a Smackdown match against Fandango? Now, I'm not saying I want to see him get hurt or anything...but if he's going balls to the wall against a top competitor at a Big 4 PPV and he gets hurt, that's one thing. I don't think anyone wants to see him as a full time competitor. That shipped sailed 10 years ago With some of the people in the IWC...you never know.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Jul 31, 2015 14:34:28 GMT -5
You know what I wouldn't have hated?
If Sting went over Triple H at WrestleMania. He returns during the build for SummerSlam and then, with Seth Rollins bragging about no challengers, Sting challenges him. This way, we get a fresh WWE Title match, Cena can have a high profile United States Title match and Seth can get a major win.
Then do Sting/Undertaker at WM 32.
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Jul 31, 2015 14:44:10 GMT -5
Riddle me this Batman... Perhaps Sting only has a contract for X-amount of matches a year. Let's say it's only 3. At 56 years old, 3 is a plausible number. Well maybe WWE's philosophy is rather than shoehorn him into a spot they don't really need him for, they'd rather just wait and used him when it makes more sense? Maybe they recently decided to use those dates for his build up to WM? Of coarse the dirt-sheets aren't going to know WWE's intentions or reasoning, so they just run with the article that "WWE just ditched Sting". And fans go into an uproar without justification. Just a thought. Merchandise deals and performance contracts are different. To my knowledge, Sting doesn't have a contract like Brock where they only get Brock for x-amount of dates per year or they have to pay him more. With Sting, he signed a merchandise deal in July of 2014, then he signed a performance contract for 7 dates in November and those dates were used with the build up and Mania. So basically it's up to WWE to tell Sting what they want him to do and work out the contract and payment per appearance. Based on what is going around the internet, and again, it could be BS, but people are saying they had an angle for Sting. They shot a COMMERCIAL with Sting for SummerSlam. He was in SICK shape. Then for some reason WWE called off the plans. Sting didn't back out. WWE called it off. Sting wants to wrestle. He said he wants to be in WWE and he wants opportunities. He even said that the last time he was on RAW. The ball is in WWE's court, but it's been 5 months since we last saw Sting and WWE hasn't mentioned him at all, not one video package, not one promo, not one appearance, nothing at all to even remind WWE fans that he's even alive. Like I said, I think it's revenge from Vince McMahon. WWE wanted Sting for 14 years Sting and Sting said no. Vince McMahon can't handle not getting what he wants or being told no...so now Sting is the one wanting to wrestle, so Vince is basically like "screw you buddy, now you WANT to wrestle here and I'm not going to use you". All the while WWE is raking in money from all their Sting merchandise.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2015 14:50:09 GMT -5
Merch sales. That's all Vince wants from him. It sucks, it really does.
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Post by T R W on Jul 31, 2015 14:50:16 GMT -5
I think the idea that Vince is trying to get revenge for something like that is kind of silly. Vince has repeatedly shown he will do business with anyone if it is good for business. Bischoff, Bret, all sorts of people.
There are a million reasons why Sting may not be on tv right now, and most of them make a lot more sense than Vince paying someone to sit at home as some sort of screwjob.
Maybe there was no angle. Maybe Undertaker being willing to work changed the entire card. Maybe he still IS going to appear. Maybe Sting didn't like the angle. Maybe they changed their story direction. Maybe it is just delayed. Until there is proof of some sort of conspiracy, best to go with the Occam's Razor approach.
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Post by marino13 on Jul 31, 2015 14:52:31 GMT -5
Riddle me this Batman... Perhaps Sting only has a contract for X-amount of matches a year. Let's say it's only 3. At 56 years old, 3 is a plausible number. Well maybe WWE's philosophy is rather than shoehorn him into a spot they don't really need him for, they'd rather just wait and used him when it makes more sense? Maybe they recently decided to use those dates for his build up to WM? Of coarse the dirt-sheets aren't going to know WWE's intentions or reasoning, so they just run with the article that "WWE just ditched Sting". And fans go into an uproar without justification. Just a thought. Merchandise deals and performance contracts are different. To my knowledge, Sting doesn't have a contract like Brock where they only get Brock for x-amount of dates per year or they have to pay him more. With Sting, he signed a merchandise deal in July of 2014, then he signed a performance contract for 7 dates in November and those dates were used with the build up and Mania. So basically it's up to WWE to tell Sting what they want him to do and work out the contract and payment per appearance. Based on what is going around the internet, and again, it could be BS, but people are saying they had an angle for Sting. They shot a COMMERCIAL with Sting for SummerSlam. He was in SICK shape. Then for some reason WWE called off the plans. Sting didn't back out. WWE called it off. Sting wants to wrestle. He said he wants to be in WWE and he wants opportunities. He even said that the last time he was on RAW. The ball is in WWE's court, but it's been 5 months since we last saw Sting and WWE hasn't mentioned him at all, not one video package, not one promo, not one appearance, nothing at all to even remind WWE fans that he's even alive. Like I said, I think it's revenge from Vince McMahon. WWE wanted Sting for 14 years Sting and Sting said no. Vince McMahon can't handle not getting what he wants or being told no...so now Sting is the one wanting to wrestle, so Vince is basically like "screw you buddy, now you WANT to wrestle here and I'm not going to use you". All the while WWE is raking in money from all their Sting merchandise. Maybe the match they had planned for Sting was delayed another month? Maybe two? Maybe Rowan being hurt changed the match they had planned? As I said in another thread maybe they released the rumor he isn't involved so if/when he does show up it will catch people off guard. There is no point in shoehorning him in if it doesn't make sense. Use him when it will have the most impact. I am willing to bet he will be back sooner than later. I still wouldn't be surprised if we see a Sting vs Taker stare down in the next few weeks as a way to build the hype for WM.
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Post by johnnyaustin21 on Jul 31, 2015 20:28:11 GMT -5
I fully underastand not using Sting as a full time or even big time part timer in ring wrestler but he should be used a lot better then what he is right now.He can still wrestle at a somewhat decent level and probably better in gimmicky match and against guys like Cena,Owens,Rollins,Cesaro..ect that are the cream of the crop in terms of in ring workers.Sting should be used a lot more then he is right now.Should be wrestling a handful of PPV matches and a RAW/Smackdown/House Show every once in a while.You could even using him in a on air GM like role and finally put the crappy Authority angle to rest.
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Post by greenjack1992 on Aug 1, 2015 9:31:25 GMT -5
Are you insane?
Talk about paranoid...
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Post by Himmy! on Aug 2, 2015 7:47:56 GMT -5
I just don't think they know what to do with him. His age certainly doesn't help though.
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Post by hulksox on Aug 2, 2015 20:42:49 GMT -5
Pretty good chance he screws Undertaker and costs the Deadman the win, no?
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Post by Joe/Smurf on Aug 2, 2015 21:28:28 GMT -5
Pretty good chance he screws Undertaker and costs the Deadman the win, no? As close to 0% chance as it gets that he is ever a heel.
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Post by hulksox on Aug 2, 2015 21:46:27 GMT -5
Pretty good chance he screws Undertaker and costs the Deadman the win, no? As close to 0% chance as it gets that he is ever a heel. Didn't say he would be a heel. Would you consider 'Taker a heel after he screwed Lesnar?
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Post by poisonclan on Aug 2, 2015 22:04:45 GMT -5
I was thinking the same thing, in regards to Vince holding a grudge against Sting. I also believe Vince's pettiness could be behind the overreaction to the Hogan racism situation. I mean I understand why the company would distance themselves from Hogan, but giving him the Benoit treatment? To me it comes across like Hogan made himself look bad and now Vince gets to eliminate Hogan from history. i don't know why people find it hard to believe Vince would intentionally bury Sting. What was the reason for making the wrestlemania match about NWO vs DX, wcw v wwe, us vs them? It was about Sting vs the Authority but they had to hate on WcW. And of course feed his son-in-laws ego.
I guess we're lucky that Samoa Joe isn't wearing yellow polka dots.
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Post by Joe/Smurf on Aug 2, 2015 22:04:49 GMT -5
As close to 0% chance as it gets that he is ever a heel. Didn't say he would be a heel. Would you consider 'Taker a heel after he screwed Lesnar? No... but Lesnar was never a full-fledged face. Taker is.
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Post by customania on Aug 4, 2015 14:23:21 GMT -5
Hasn't he completed all his appearances listed in his contract this year. Theres no one for him to face as it's taker and Lesnar and Reigns and Wyatt. Maybe he could have a rematch against Triple H. He may appear at Survivor Series against Undertaker or Bray Wyatt.
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