|
Post by The neferious brotha Hargrove on Jul 31, 2015 10:50:51 GMT -5
Blood really isn't necessary in a match , because it does nothing for the match what so ever
|
|
|
Post by PJ on Jul 31, 2015 14:50:42 GMT -5
Yet what I don't understand is if they hate the product so much since it went PG why do they still watch it every week?
|
|
|
Post by Scarlet Begonias on Jul 31, 2015 15:05:25 GMT -5
I'm anti use of childish insults such as poopy and piece of crap. It's silly and it makes any threat in WWE today laughable.
|
|
Deleted
Joined on: May 4, 2024 4:54:16 GMT -5
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2015 15:12:56 GMT -5
I don't mind PG wrestling. I'm pretty sure I grew up on it in the 80's. I do think they should also offer a TVMA alternative on the Network.
|
|
Deleted
Joined on: May 4, 2024 4:54:16 GMT -5
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2015 15:35:20 GMT -5
WWF was technically "PG" during its prime in 1997 so it doesn't bother me.
I also don't miss blood at all. Cutting your forehead open with a razor blade kinda takes the art and magic out of wrestling for me.
Plus, it's more exciting when someone bleeds now because you know it's legit and not a blade job.
|
|
|
Post by BCizzle on Jul 31, 2015 18:20:30 GMT -5
But WHY is the WWE PG now? Because they are a bunch of spineless corporate suck ups - that's the bigger problem.
|
|
|
Post by theMOESIAH on Jul 31, 2015 19:49:17 GMT -5
We've all encountered them. Whether it be on Youtube comments, social media or in person at some kind of wrestling event. The type of people who blame anything they don't like in WWE on the company being PG. Raw sucked? Damn PG. John Cena wins a match? Damn PG. Hulk Hogan gets fired for racist remarks? Stupid PG! They're easily the most annoying kind of wrestling fans on the planet. The other day I saw that it's been 7 years since WWE officially went PG. I follow a "This date in WWE history" account on Twitter and predicted that if they tweet about this anniversary, all of the replies would be boneheaded and moronic as ... annnd I was right. Here's the tweet. Just some of the replies: when it went downhill
it was a dark day
the day that killed WWE
and from that moment on it started to suck
the day you knew u ed up, vince
one of the worst decisions they made!
worst day in the history of the company (Jesus Christ, seriously?) Miss all the blood and swearing wwe is crap now and this is why It absolute blows my mind that there are so many people out there who think like that. Here's a question. If WWE hadn't publicly announced going PG in July 2008, do you think anyone would have even noticed right away? I honestly doubt that I would have. WWE being PG has NEVER been an issue for me, there's been many great moments and matches in the company over the last 7 years. A lot of the apres-PG years in WWE have been much better than a lot of the stuff from the TV 14 era. I found 2006 and 2007 to be one of the dullest times ever as a fan and those weren't the PG days. Give me 2010-2015 over those years any day. It p*sses me off greatly when I see people playing the PG card at every given turn. The misconception that people have on what PG entails is mind numbing. Feel free to use this thread to vent on "anti PG" ignorance and any experiences you've had with these ignorant, blinded people. So you're saying that anyone who disagrees with you is wrong and probably an bunghole?
|
|
|
Post by theMOESIAH on Jul 31, 2015 19:55:53 GMT -5
But WHY is the WWE PG now? Because they are a bunch of spineless corporate suck ups - that's the bigger problem. WWE has been PG or even G rated for nearly all of its existence. The Attitude Era lasted only, what, four years? There are some people here who think the current era needs defending when it rant doesn't. If you like it, great. But it's not wrong to dislike it either. That's where the message seems to get lost -- it's not wrong to have differing tastes. And before anyone starts, just because one does not like the PG product that does not automatically mean that they want to go back to the Attitude Era.
|
|
|
Post by Escape The Rules on Jul 31, 2015 20:36:50 GMT -5
We've all encountered them. Whether it be on Youtube comments, social media or in person at some kind of wrestling event. The type of people who blame anything they don't like in WWE on the company being PG. Raw sucked? Damn PG. John Cena wins a match? Damn PG. Hulk Hogan gets fired for racist remarks? Stupid PG! They're easily the most annoying kind of wrestling fans on the planet. The other day I saw that it's been 7 years since WWE officially went PG. I follow a "This date in WWE history" account on Twitter and predicted that if they tweet about this anniversary, all of the replies would be boneheaded and moronic as ... annnd I was right. Here's the tweet. Just some of the replies: when it went downhill
it was a dark day
the day that killed WWE
and from that moment on it started to suck
the day you knew u ed up, vince
one of the worst decisions they made!
worst day in the history of the company (Jesus Christ, seriously?) Miss all the blood and swearing wwe is crap now and this is why It absolute blows my mind that there are so many people out there who think like that. Here's a question. If WWE hadn't publicly announced going PG in July 2008, do you think anyone would have even noticed right away? I honestly doubt that I would have. WWE being PG has NEVER been an issue for me, there's been many great moments and matches in the company over the last 7 years. A lot of the apres-PG years in WWE have been much better than a lot of the stuff from the TV 14 era. I found 2006 and 2007 to be one of the dullest times ever as a fan and those weren't the PG days. Give me 2010-2015 over those years any day. It p*sses me off greatly when I see people playing the PG card at every given turn. The misconception that people have on what PG entails is mind numbing. Feel free to use this thread to vent on "anti PG" ignorance and any experiences you've had with these ignorant, blinded people. So you're saying that anyone who disagrees with you is wrong and probably an bunghole? No, where in that post did I say that? I'm all for having our own opinions & disagreeing and that there is my opinion. If someone dislikes PG and actually has a logical reason for it, power to them. But people like the ones I've quoted in the OP quite clearly don't quite understand what they're talking about. They just have this notion ingrained in their head that "PG - BAD!" when that couldn't be further from the truth.
|
|
|
Post by theMOESIAH on Jul 31, 2015 21:48:48 GMT -5
So you're saying that anyone who disagrees with you is wrong and probably an bunghole? No, where in that post did I say that? I'm all for having our own opinions & disagreeing and that there is my opinion. If someone dislikes PG and actually has a logical reason for it, power to them. But people like the ones I've quoted in the OP quite clearly don't quite understand what they're talking about. They just have this notion ingrained in their head that "PG - BAD!" when that couldn't be further from the truth. Fair enough. I think you and I have had the same reactions from people on both sides of this issue. I've had people jump all over me here the moment I say I don't like the PG era without even asking why. I guess I was expecting more of the same. Sorry.
|
|
Deleted
Joined on: May 4, 2024 4:54:16 GMT -5
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2015 22:02:22 GMT -5
If someone absolutely NEEDS blood and swearing to make professional wrestling enjoyable, they're ing sick. This! I enjoy a match from athletes that have chemistry. I don't think blood, weapons and swearing is necessary for entertainment, that's just selfish. These guys already put their careers on the line as it is. I just wish the story behind the fueds meant something.
|
|
|
Post by SodaGuy on Jul 31, 2015 22:10:03 GMT -5
If someone absolutely NEEDS blood and swearing to make professional wrestling enjoyable, they're ing sick. There are some angles/stories that could use a *little* blood. I'm not talking some CZW bloodbath bulls*** but Rollins/Ambrose could have used a little color in their feud. Blood is always "best" when used properly and a storyline where you are trying to sell me that these two guys really hate each other.. is one of them imo. Not every feud or every Hell in a Cell match does but there are sometimes that a little blood would help the story imo.
|
|
|
Post by Planktung on Jul 31, 2015 22:24:12 GMT -5
If someone absolutely NEEDS blood and swearing to make professional wrestling enjoyable, they're ing sick. There are some angles/stories that could use a *little* blood. I'm not talking some CZW bloodbath bulls*** but Rollins/Ambrose could have used a little color in their feud. Blood is always "best" when used properly and a storyline where you are trying to sell me that these two guys really hate each other.. is one of them imo. Not every feud or every Hell in a Cell match does but there are sometimes that a little blood would help the story imo.
There are times and places for blood in wrestling, and they're not very often. Rollins/Ambrose was absolutely a program that could have used a bit, but it ultimately didn't make it not enjoyable. There are people out there, though, who have the mindset that WWE as a product is ruined because there is no blood these days. That's what pisses me off most about the butthurt Attitude Era fanboys who think the PG rating is the definitive answer to the question, "Why does this suck?"
|
|
|
Post by SodaGuy on Jul 31, 2015 22:29:50 GMT -5
There are some angles/stories that could use a *little* blood. I'm not talking some CZW bloodbath bulls*** but Rollins/Ambrose could have used a little color in their feud. Blood is always "best" when used properly and a storyline where you are trying to sell me that these two guys really hate each other.. is one of them imo. Not every feud or every Hell in a Cell match does but there are sometimes that a little blood would help the story imo.
There are times and places for blood in wrestling, and they're not very often. Rollins/Ambrose was absolutely a program that could have used a bit, but it ultimately didn't make it not enjoyable. There are people out there, though, who have the mindset that WWE as a product is ruined because there is no blood these days. That's what pisses me off most about the butthurt Attitude Era fanboys who think the PG rating is the definitive answer to the question, "Why does this suck?" Agree. The Bunny Club still going strong.
|
|
Deleted
Joined on: May 4, 2024 4:54:16 GMT -5
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2015 22:48:09 GMT -5
WWE took time to grow into the PG rating, but they have. The problem isn't awful shows anymore, but a lack of great writing. This because there's a team of 20-30 Hollywood writers yet it all is run through one man. Guys just wrestle to wrestle. It's not fulfilling to watch. If there's a three hour show, I want either great wrestling all the way through (which I can get through PWG or NJPW) or incredible stories told (which I can get through a few episodes of Lucha Underground). In WWE, pretty much everyone barring a very select few (basically Lesnar) wrestle the same way. It's a guaranteed way to get nothing worse than a **1/2 star match unless you have two awful performers, but it can be boring sometimes. On the storyline side of things, there's nothing that really hooks you in. You had Cena/Steen and the Cena/Rusev/Steen/Cesaro unchained storyline along with some others, but nothing is exactly well-written despite EVERYTHING being scripted; which is another huge part of why things aren't booming, but I can rant and rave about that for ages. The point is that blaming the PG rating for really anything is crazy especially when there's dozens of other things to take the blame.
|
|
|
Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Aug 1, 2015 4:39:58 GMT -5
YouTube comments are insane, but in general online, the "PG SUX" silliness has died down over the last couple of years. I don't know if it's the kids who were so anti-PG growing up a little and realising that the age rating doesn't make a show good or bad, or if it's just a case of moving onto other sillinesses. Like "three hours sux" or blaming Kevin Dunn for everything as though he hasn't been in basically the same job for decades, including the period where the people who hate him still enjoyed the show.
There should be a thread for funniest YouTube comments on wrestling videos though. Pretty much any Chris Benoit video has comments that would make you despair of the human race. I just clicked on a John Cena theme video on there and it's exclusively children talking in memes and quoting lines from the prank call video. The craziest thing on YouTube is that pretty much any wrestling video ever will have comments saying something like "dont u no wrestling is fake lol" -- who are these people, and why are they watching wrestling videos on YouTube in the first place? Are there really that many people around who still think that everybody who watches wrestling thinks it's real?
|
|
customania
Main Eventer
HBK, Orton, Reigns, Jomo, Rollins, Triple H, Neville, Test, Rollins and Warrior are some of the best
Joined on: Jun 22, 2014 4:06:30 GMT -5
Posts: 3,022
|
Post by customania on Aug 1, 2015 4:56:19 GMT -5
PG wasn't the best when it first came in but I think it's good for kids to idolise the superstars and hate them. It's really good at the moment IMO. They just shouldn't let Cena burry talent though. Same goes for Show and Kane but I'm not as annoyed at kane and show as they are at the end of their careers and with the amount of years they've been there (mostly kane) they should have a good end to their careers.
|
|
|
Post by greenjack1992 on Aug 1, 2015 9:42:10 GMT -5
The only difference has been the absence of bikini contests, bran and panties matches, borderline pornographic elements to diva angles and ... blood.
Well, if you would rather watch a product that would take world class athletes like Natalya Neidhart, Sasha Banks, Becky Lynch, Paige, Emma and Naomi have their matches replaced with mud wrestling, then you aren't a fan of wrestling and should be watching something else.
And if all you want to see is wrestlers smash each other over the head with stuff until they bleed profusely, you aren't a fan of wrestling either, you're a voyeur who should stick to horror movies (where the actors aren't expected to cut themselves open and actually bleed during filming).
And cursing/swear words? I'd like to think we don't need to go into how cheap it is to get a cheer or a boo for using naughty words. It takes zero talent.
So... what then? What about a TV14 rating worked so much better than the current product? Because, if you ask me, this is the best its been since the Ruthless Aggression Era.
|
|
|
Post by ¡Twist Of Cinnamon! on Aug 2, 2015 4:43:56 GMT -5
Besides blood and the toning down of some no DQ style matches, what major and noticeable change has taken place as a result of PG?
Cena said "poopy" a couple of times, big deal. Seeing blood during Lesnar and Reigns made the match more special. If it was a weekly / monthly thing then it would wear off pretty quickly. Its the same reason as to why I'm fine with Lesnar doing his suplex schtick four times a year. Anything else that the anti PG whiners complain about, I can deal with just fine.
|
|
Deleted
Joined on: May 4, 2024 4:54:16 GMT -5
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2015 6:58:39 GMT -5
PG doesn't get me Lana vs Summer Rae in a bra and panties match. That's my problem with PG.
|
|