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Post by mikey1974 on Aug 8, 2015 13:06:50 GMT -5
"Face The Heat!"  so the WWF was chugging alongin 1995, and,frankly,not doing very well. Diesel was the Champion and appointed Leader of the New Generation, with a newly-Face Shawn Michaels at his side. indeed, the Face ranks were swelled in 1995, which was countered by a really lackluster and diminished Heel roster. Diesel was Champ, and popular, but he really had no one good to work with. heading into SummerSlam that year, the WWF was coming to a crossroads, with a lot of crappy characters, and a lot of bad angles going on. - first off, Mabel won the King of the Ring, and was Big Daddy Cool's #1 challenger. yes, THAT Mabel! - the Undertaker was embroiled in a year-long feud with the Million Dollar Corporation, and not really anything good came out of that. - Bret Hart was relegated to the mid-card, fighting pirates, dentists, and Jerry Lawler again. - the Tag Team Division quite simply BLEW! ...what's funny isthere was a very real "youth movement" in the WWF in 1995, as a lot fo guys debuted that year. problem was, most gimmicks sucked, or were short-lived. Skip, Bob "Sparkplug" Holly, TL Hopper, Rad Radford, Man Mountain Rock,Techno Team 2000, etc. were just some of the gimmicks given to established, good to great wrestlers that didn't help them out, at all. it's funny, but at the time it was happening, i loved the WWF in 1995. but looking back on it now, via the Network, I can see it was the alcohol talking. I frankly think 1995 sucked, and consider this SummerSlam to be one of the worst. Chris Candido jobbed for Barry Horowitz! on PPV!!! think about that!only bright spot on this card was HBK vs Razor Ramon in another classic Ladder Match for the IC Title, and the match between Undertaker and Kama wasn't that bad. THE CARD: Hakushi vs The 1-2-3 Kid Hunter Hearst Helmsley vs Bob "Sparkplug" Holly The Smoking Gunns vs The Blu Brothers , w/ Uncle Zebekiah Barry Horowitz vs Skip ,w/ Sunny WWF Womens Champion Alundra Blayze vs Bertha Faye ,w/ Harvey Whippleman The Undertaker , w/ Paul Bearer vs Kama The Supreme Fighting Machine , w/ Ted DiBiase Bret "Hitman" Hart vs Issac Yankem, DDS WWF Intercontinental Champion Shawn Michaels vs Razor Ramon - Ladder Match WWF Champion Diesel vs King Mabel , w/ Sir Mo |
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Post by robbutler01 on Aug 8, 2015 13:16:25 GMT -5
1995... the infamous year that so many people rag on. It funny but I remember reading in Powerslam mag at the time (I still have it actually) that they thought this was one of the greatest wrestling cards ever. While I admit there was some choice action 123 kid hakushi and the ladder match it really wasn't the best card they could have put on. I don't think many people will give love to Mabel although I think Diesel did his best in there with the walking injury machine that Mabel was at the time. I remember it was supposed to be Sid v shawn - thanks for changing it! while I enjoyed sid shawn in 96 the ladder match was definitely the better option. Hmm and the ppv debut of a new face against bob holly - I wonder what became of that young guy......  |
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Aug 8, 2015 13:16:29 GMT -5
I do love this SummerSlam event! It's well known that I love the year 1995 for WWE and that Diesel was my favourite WWE Champion, so even though he had a crap opponent like Mabel, I was still happy to see Diesel win it.
I think Vince's thinking here was, "well it worked for Hogan in the 80s, beating the bigger man, it will work now with Diesel."
Anyway, from what I remember from just watching the entire 1995 Raw year, was that Sid vs. HBK for the IC Title and Savio/Razor vs. Yoko/Owen for the Tag Titles were gonna happen at SummerSlam. Scratch those two matches and we get HBK vs. Razor for the IC Title in a ladder match. And Sid, Yoko, Owen and Savio get to miss a PPV pay off.
HBK vs. Razor was better than their Wrestlemania X ladder match. I wish the WWE would understand that too and stop releasing the WM X one on every DVD that comes out. There is a perfectly good SummerSlam ladder match that has only been released on the Ladder Match DVD and SummerSlam 95 DVD that could see some more light on other WWE DVD releases.
The under card of this event was pretty crappy though.
I honestly don't really remember much of each match, but then when I watched this when I was a teenager my main interest was Diesel vs. Mabel and Razor vs. HBK.
I want to say 123 Kid vs. Hakushi and Bob Holly vs. Hunter Hearst Helmsley was good. Skip vs. Barry Horowitz was okay. Smoking Gunns vs. The Blu Brother was.... meh. Alundra vs. Bertha was not as good as Alundra vs. Bull from a year before.
Taker vs. Kama was okay, the story line behind it made it interesting I suppose. Bret vs. Yankem was okay, but had a horrible ending with the DQ.
But I still like this PPV just cause it has sentimental meaning to it.
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Post by robbutler01 on Aug 8, 2015 13:27:42 GMT -5
I do love this SummerSlam event! It's well known that I love the year 1995 for WWE and that Diesel was my favourite WWE Champion, so even though he had a crap opponent like Mabel, I was still happy to see Diesel win it. I think Vince's thinking here was, "well it worked for Hogan in the 80s, beating the bigger man, it will work now with Diesel." Anyway, from what I remember from just watching the entire 1995 Raw year, was that Sid vs. HBK for the IC Title and Savio/Razor vs. Yoko/Owen for the Tag Titles were gonna happen at SummerSlam. Scratch those two matches and we get HBK vs. Razor for the IC Title in a ladder match. And Sid, Yoko, Owen and Savio get to miss a PPV pay off. HBK vs. Razor was better than their Wrestlemania X ladder match. I wish the WWE would understand that too and stop releasing the WM X one on every DVD that comes out. There is a perfectly good SummerSlam ladder match that has only been released on the Ladder Match DVD and SummerSlam 95 DVD that could see some more light on other WWE DVD releases. The under card of this event was pretty crappy though. I honestly don't really remember much of each match, but then when I watched this when I was a teenager my main interest was Diesel vs. Mabel and Razor vs. HBK. I want to say 123 Kid vs. Hakushi and Bob Holly vs. Hunter Hearst Helmsley was good. Skip vs. Barry Horowitz was okay. Smoking Gunns vs. The Blu Brother was.... meh. Alundra vs. Bertha was not as good as Alundra vs. Bull from a year before. Taker vs. Kama was okay, the story line behind it made it interesting I suppose. Bret vs. Yankem was okay, but had a horrible ending with the DQ. But I still like this PPV just cause it has sentimental meaning to it. Nailed it! I think the ladder match here was better than the mania one too. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2015 14:05:36 GMT -5
Crippling misuse of the talent at hand.....CRIPPLING.
I've rebooked this event in another post. I'll find it and be back.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Aug 8, 2015 14:09:59 GMT -5
1995 was a rough year at times. Fun fact, this is Finn Balor's favorite PPV of all-time. It has sentimental value for him, so he's like hbkbigdaddycool in that sense. I prefer the WrestleMania ladder match between HBK and Razor but it was still damn good here. I also liked Kid vs. Hakushi. This was during the Undertaker's awful Million Dollar Corporation feud phase and we had Mabel in the main event, plus a Bertha Faye match. Yikes. |
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Post by UltimateCollector78 on Aug 8, 2015 14:16:43 GMT -5
This is by far one of the worst SummerSlam's ever, I remember I watched with my older brother and 2 of his friends. by the time the main event rolled around, they were a sleep or nodding off. They all gave me dirty looks afterwards for wasting their Sunday. even though HBK vs Razor 2 was very good and I demand an Elite SS 95 HBK with full entrance gear.
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Post by koreygunz on Aug 8, 2015 16:50:36 GMT -5
The Luger run in at the end always confused me. I assumed it was meant to lead to a luger heel turn (the one that eventually went to Bulldog)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2015 21:01:45 GMT -5
Outside of HBK/Razor (still say it's better than WM 10) & Hakushi/Kid, this is a pass for me. Those two matches are superb though.
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Post by cordless2016 on Aug 8, 2015 23:15:58 GMT -5
1995 is such a frustrating year to watch and look back on. They had a TON of talent and "young" guys. Bret, Taker, Diesel, HBK, Razor, Owen, Bulldog, Luger, Double J, HHH, 123 Kid, Sid, Bam Bam, etc...
The problem is everything was booked ass backwards. Diesel was fine as world champ but had nobody to work with. Bret and Taker were stuck in the midcard. Mabel of all friggin people won the KOTR.
I enjoy the event for nostalgia but this event could have been so much better.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Aug 9, 2015 1:15:14 GMT -5
1995 is such a frustrating year to watch and look back on. They had a TON of talent and "young" guys. Bret, Taker, Diesel, HBK, Razor, Owen, Bulldog, Luger, Double J, HHH, 123 Kid, Sid, Bam Bam, etc... The problem is everything was booked ass backwards. Diesel was fine as world champ but had nobody to work with. Bret and Taker were stuck in the midcard. Mabel of all friggin people won the KOTR. I enjoy the event for nostalgia but this event could have been so much better. In looking back, I always found that the In Your House shows were better than say KOTR or SummerSlam. I wonder if Vince was booking the In Your House shows better so people would buy them - probably knowing that fans were gonna buy KOTR and SummerSlam anyhow, no matter what the matches were on them. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2015 6:03:30 GMT -5
As I said a CHRNONIC misuse of the talent he had at the time......here's how the card should have went down.
WWF Title: Diesel (c) vs KOTR winner Bam Bam Bigelow.
IC Title: HBK vs Razor Ramon (wouldn't change a thing)
WWF Tag Team Championship: Smokin Gunns(c) vs Owen Hart & Skip w/Sunny(really easy to book how these two come together)
Bret Hart vs Jeff Jarrett w/Jerry Lawler (why the very capable JJ was never deployed as one of Kings "agents" Ill never know) could have been great......
The Undertaker vs Mabel
everything else stays the same. Goodbye Barry Horiwitz(UGH) from the PPV or else feed him to Kama.
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Post by jeffro2000 on Aug 9, 2015 9:41:51 GMT -5
Being a kid still, 13, I enjoyed this period. I loved everything they threw at me until I was 18 or so and then my interest waned.
Looking back, it wasn't great. I actually watched some of it the other week. It could've been better, but Vince just chugging along thinking everything is good at this point still.
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Post by mikey1974 on Aug 9, 2015 19:33:16 GMT -5
As I said a CHRNONIC misuse of the talent he had at the time......here's how the card should have went down. WWF Title: Diesel (c) vs KOTR winner Bam Bam Bigelow. IC Title: HBK vs Razor Ramon (wouldn't change a thing) WWF Tag Team Championship: Smokin Gunns(c) vs Owen Hart & Skip w/Sunny(really easy to book how these two come together) Bret Hart vs Jeff Jarrett w/Jerry Lawler (why the very capable JJ was never deployed as one of Kings "agents" Ill never know) could have been great...... The Undertaker vs Mabel everything else stays the same. Goodbye Barry Horiwitz(UGH) from the PPV or else feed him to Kama. Vince turning Bammer face was a HUGE mistake! the roster was already overfull with them, and he definitely would've been a great, credible threat to Diesel, and they could've put on a great match. |
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Aug 9, 2015 21:09:35 GMT -5
As I said a CHRNONIC misuse of the talent he had at the time......here's how the card should have went down. WWF Title: Diesel (c) vs KOTR winner Bam Bam Bigelow. IC Title: HBK vs Razor Ramon (wouldn't change a thing) WWF Tag Team Championship: Smokin Gunns(c) vs Owen Hart & Skip w/Sunny(really easy to book how these two come together) Bret Hart vs Jeff Jarrett w/Jerry Lawler (why the very capable JJ was never deployed as one of Kings "agents" Ill never know) could have been great...... The Undertaker vs Mabel everything else stays the same. Goodbye Barry Horiwitz(UGH) from the PPV or else feed him to Kama. Vince turning Bammer face was a HUGE mistake! the roster was already overfull with them, and he definitely would've been a great, credible threat to Diesel, and they could've put on a great match. I think in Vince's mind, turning Bam Bam face and putting him with the WWE Champion Diesel was to be considered a big rub. Kind of like at Wrestlemania when Orndorff turned face right after and was tagging with Hogan. I think Vince booked Wrestlemania XI to be almost like Wrestlemania 1 in some ways. Also, regarding Bigelow, his last match was at Survivor Series 95 against Goldust in the WWE, and yet in January on Raw to hype the Royal Rumble, Bam Bam Bigelow's picture and name were both mentioned and said to be in the Rumble. I am wondering if Vince thought Bigelow would return for that match only?? Or that he was gonna return full time?? |
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Post by Emerald Enthusiast on Aug 9, 2015 23:56:34 GMT -5
It's hard to believe that this was 20 years ago. It was only a mediocre card, but the Razor-HBK match made it worth the purchase price.
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