Captain McKay
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Post by Captain McKay on Aug 11, 2015 18:28:27 GMT -5
I think WWE WANTED Billy Gunn to be a huge deal, which would explain all the opportunities. King of the Ring, "The One." when he was solo w/Chyna as "Mr. Ass" post-DX...sadly, I think he needed someone to play off of, which is why his best work was always done in a tag team.
I've said time and again, there shouldn't be ANY problem with being considered a great tag-team wrestler. I think Billy could fit that description. But they did right by not giving him the World title, IMO.
As for E&C, I think Edge narrowly gets the advantage. But both were great, especially as a team.
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Post by 5th Horsewoman on Aug 11, 2015 23:19:33 GMT -5
The Miz & Morrison - Miz
Steiner Brothers - I'd say kinda even
The Dudley Boys - Bubba
NAO - Road Dogg
The Road Warriors - Animal
Hardy Boys - Jeff
Edge & Christian - Edge just by a little bit
Hall or Nash?
I personally think it's about even but would say Nash if forced to choose
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Post by Todd Pettengill on Aug 11, 2015 23:36:17 GMT -5
The Miz & Morrison - Miz Steiner Brothers - I'd say kinda even The Dudley Boys - Bubba NAO - Road Dogg The Road Warriors - Animal Hardy Boys - Jeff Edge & Christian - Edge just by a little bit Hall or Nash? I personally think it's about even but would say Nash if forced to choose Nash...he didn't have all the outside problems like Hall did. Too Cool?
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Post by AmericanMadeLesGold on Aug 12, 2015 0:00:58 GMT -5
The Miz & Morrison - Miz Steiner Brothers - I'd say kinda even The Dudley Boys - Bubba NAO - Road Dogg The Road Warriors - Animal Hardy Boys - Jeff Edge & Christian - Edge just by a little bit Hall or Nash? I personally think it's about even but would say Nash if forced to choose Nash...he didn't have all the outside problems like Hall did. Too Cool? (Just the tag-team, Rikishi excluded) I'd have to go with Scotty. He had the Worm, which got the crowd going the most of anything, and he was hysterical. I enjoyed them both tho. APA?
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Post by Todd Pettengill on Aug 12, 2015 11:25:44 GMT -5
Nash...he didn't have all the outside problems like Hall did. Too Cool? (Just the tag-team, Rikishi excluded) I'd have to go with Scotty. He had the Worm, which got the crowd going the most of anything, and he was hysterical. I enjoyed them both tho. APA? Just the actual tag team of Brian and Scotty.
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Captain McKay
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Post by Captain McKay on Aug 12, 2015 16:18:36 GMT -5
Too Cool - DEFINITELY Scotty. The Worm and the crazy hat/hair were unique. Grandmaster Sexay wasn't interesting at all on his own.
APA - Now HERE's an interesting one. I'd say most likely Bradshaw, since he'd go on to be the world champion afterward, and during the APA segments he'd usually be the mouthpiece. But I'd love to say it was all because Faarooq allowed it. Plus, Simmons on the mic and/or talking in backstage segments was always excellent. I remember Crash Holly pouring beer over his head, and Faarooq slowly getting up and saying "Well, I'll...be...DAMNED." and walks off after Crash.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2015 21:16:06 GMT -5
Here's an easy one... Harlem Heat
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Post by 5th Horsewoman on Aug 12, 2015 21:34:37 GMT -5
Too Cool - Scotty
APA - Kinda even for me
Harlem Heat - Booker
Owen & Bulldog?
Would have to go with Owen
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Post by PJ on Aug 13, 2015 3:43:23 GMT -5
But Simmons was the WCW World Champion. He just didn't have the same success in the WWE. But APA did look like a vechile to canapolt Bradshaw to the next level.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2015 4:38:05 GMT -5
I don't think there was any plans to catapult Bradshaw to the next level PJ ......the APA were just hanging out for AGES before they split. I think it was just Bradshaw asking for an opportunity and he had this gimmick thought out. He had been the McMahons real life financial advisor for years and Vinnie probably felt like he owed him. The only reason he got the title was Eddie had a total meltdown over SD!s sliding ratings and begged Vince to take the strap off him begged on bended knee apparently. The original plan called for Angle to dethrone Eddie at Summerslam 04 but at this point Angle was knackered AGAIN and they had to scrap any future plans with him. But saying that? JBL really put his back into being this cowardly heel champ.....and for the most part it worked. His matches against Eddie were friggin wars that really established him as somebody who could hang at that level.
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Post by PJ on Aug 13, 2015 9:11:51 GMT -5
Maybe I phrased that wrong. I just meant that whale Simmons was a World Champion prior to the WWE and after APA split Bradshaw went on to his greatest success as a main event guy yet Simmons became nothing more than a "Damn!" spot.
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Post by Duck Holliday on Aug 13, 2015 15:12:37 GMT -5
Maybe I phrased that wrong. I just meant that whale Simmons was a World Champion prior to the WWE and after APA split Bradshaw went on to his greatest success as a main event guy yet Simmons became nothing more than a "Damn!" spot. the issue is who carried who while a team, right? So what they did before or after is kind of irrelevant to me. I actually think they were pretty even. I'd consider the edge for Ron, though.
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Post by greenjack1992 on Aug 13, 2015 18:09:46 GMT -5
What about Billy and Chuck?
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Post by JC Motors on Aug 13, 2015 18:22:22 GMT -5
Here's an easy one... Harlem Heat Booker T by a longshot
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gravedigger3
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Post by gravedigger3 on Aug 14, 2015 16:48:26 GMT -5
Rock and Sock connection ?
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Aug 14, 2015 19:49:57 GMT -5
Miz carried Morrison. It's one of the great tag team carry-jobs.
The Outlaws were about even. Neither were any good as singles guys really, but they were one of the best teams ever. They both had a bunch of tag teams after that that were mostly bad, too.
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Post by mikey1974 on Aug 16, 2015 19:21:40 GMT -5
What about Billy and Chuck? I'd say Billy, simply because he had more experience, and knew how to cut promos better than Chuck. a lot of the early B & C backstage "skits" were Chuck reacting to what Billy did or said. so I'd say Billy took the lead on that team.
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Post by dante123 on Aug 16, 2015 21:20:38 GMT -5
3 minute warning Would you say Umaga aka Jamal or Rosey or they were both even.
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Post by cmiller79 on Aug 16, 2015 23:28:23 GMT -5
Id say jamal How bout rock n roll express?
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Post by UltimateCollector78 on Aug 17, 2015 3:02:05 GMT -5
Rock and Sock connection ? Well, a lot of people would say the Rock, but I think Mic Foley was the mastermind and played a crucial role in making the odd couple team a must watch. Mankind toke the brunt of the insults from the Rock. The Rock was treating EVERYONE the same way he was treating Mankind, but the fact that mankind thought he and Rock were best buds and had jackets and all that stuff made is what made the duo comedy gold.It would not have worked if anyone was placed in that role other than Mankind. so yes Mankind carried the rock and sock connection.
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