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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2015 20:48:10 GMT -5
Here's a team no one didn't mention DLo and Mark Henry DLo For sure
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Post by cmiller79 on Aug 26, 2015 15:08:28 GMT -5
Mega powers-savage Ultimate maniacs-savage
X-pac and Kane??
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Post by PJ on Aug 26, 2015 17:16:27 GMT -5
Is it bad that while I remember that Kane and XPac were a team I have zero recollection of any of their matches or promos? Not a one.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2015 17:54:11 GMT -5
Is it bad that while I remember that Kane and XPac were a team I have zero recollection of any of their matches or promos? Not a one. Same here. they were and still are a total non entity to me.
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Post by Glorydaysofwrestling on Aug 26, 2015 18:36:32 GMT -5
Another team that is very hard to pick between is the British Bulldogs. Two of my favorites and 2 of the best in history!
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Post by mikey1974 on Aug 26, 2015 19:00:26 GMT -5
Mega powers-savage Ultimate maniacs-savage X-pac and Kane?? I'm going to go wild card here and say Kane. why? X-Pac took the brunt of the punishment, and maybe did most of the ring work, but the team NEEDED Kane to finally accept X-Pac as his partner, and respect and care about him. THAT was whay finally made them a cohesive unit, and got the fans on their side. you needed that journey of Kane finally letting go of his hate, and accepting a friend and partner for the whole thing to work.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2015 12:32:38 GMT -5
Not sure if already done but ....
Rvd & Sabu in ecw?
Rvd & Kane in WWE
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Post by mikey1974 on Aug 28, 2015 14:04:37 GMT -5
Not sure if already done but .... Rvd & Sabu in ecw? Rvd & Kane in WWE Sabu - RVD got the rub from him, which helped him go on to be a bigger star later. but in their team, Sabu was the glue. RVD - both were over as well, but RVD sold it beautifully the storyline of trying to make the team work, and quite frankly was the better wrestler. promo-wise, I'd say they were even.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2015 19:34:03 GMT -5
Another team that is very hard to pick between is the British Bulldogs. Two of my favorites and 2 of the best in history! Dynamite was the undisputed team captain of the Bulldogs and called their every shot. He carried the show there until he packed so much muscle onto his tiny frame that his skeleton tapped out and he went into traction.
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Post by Duck Holliday on Aug 29, 2015 4:36:05 GMT -5
Pretty much any team with Savage, its gotta be Savage. Gotta say Dynamite within the team, but Davey had more of a solo star look to me. Here's a fun one... The Dancing Fools, Alex Wright and Disco Inferno The Kevstaaa
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2015 6:30:59 GMT -5
I will disagree until the end of time with anybody that says Savage carried the Mega Powers. It was 100% a 50/50 act.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Aug 29, 2015 7:01:38 GMT -5
Pretty much any team with Savage, its gotta be Savage. Gotta say Dynamite within the team, but Davey had more of a solo star look to me. Here's a fun one... The Dancing Fools, Alex Wright and Disco Inferno The Kevstaaa
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Post by UltimateCollector78 on Aug 30, 2015 12:09:28 GMT -5
I agree 100% the Mega Powers act was 50/50. Alex right did carry the dancing fools, not sure if thats a win for him in this particular case.
The Headshrinkers Fatu & Samu ?
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Post by koreygunz on Aug 30, 2015 15:49:44 GMT -5
Fatu
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Post by PJ on Aug 30, 2015 16:12:23 GMT -5
Personally I think Afa and Samu carried the Headshrinkers.
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Post by koreygunz on Aug 30, 2015 20:53:37 GMT -5
I think I might have to disagree with the Rockers as a team they were either 50/50 or Jannetty was very slightly more than Shawn. It wasn't until the split that Shawn took off. But this topic is who carried who as a team. Not who was the bigger star. See, this is why I mentioned the Rockers because I tend to agree with you. Yes Michaels became the bigger star, and rightfully so, but at the time that the Rockers were at their peak I think Jannetty was more of the work horse and a little more seasoned. He usually did more of the talking in promos too. When I think of the Rockers, he is the first one I think of honestly and I think we was seen as the "leader."
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Post by BoJack Hogan on Aug 30, 2015 21:57:29 GMT -5
Am I the only one who thought Matt carried the Hardys?
Jeff was clearly the attraction, and he has this weird charisma that can't be explained considering that he's a terrible and unbelievable (in the bad sense) talker, but you're still drawn to him. Matt however set everything and kept Jeff reigned in during the critical early years. Even though I think Matt is kind of a self-aggrandizing douchebag, I don't think the Hardys make it without Matt. I'd say the same about Jannetty in the early years of the Rockers. The only difference, if Jannetty could've kept his $#!t together he could've been a pretty decent high mid-carder to sometimes main eventer in his own right considering that he was every bit as good as Shawn in the ring. Shawn was a once in a lifetime talent, but that didn't come til much later.
As for the Mega Powers, tough say because it was so short-lived, but if you had to choose, you're lying to yourself if you say anything other than Hogan. I know people love to try to trivialize what Hogan has done, but that's why they were put together - to cement Savage as a top guy on Hogan's level, and it worked. As popular as Savage was getting, Hogan christened him as the top babyface for a time by aligning with him, so if anyone "carried" that team it was Hogan.
As for the Ultimate Maniacs, hard to say for the same reasons as above, but if you had to choose it was Savage. Warrior was popular, but Savage was the man, and Warrior had just been gone. I was watching at that time, and on some level, it just wasn't working with Warrior. Savage tried to help, and he "carried" that team.
APA was 50/50. Both guys had one job, and that was to kick ass. That's exactly what they did, nobody was more popular than the other.
Demolition was 50/50. See above. When Crush joined, it was Smash because Ax was ill and Crush was green.
Hart Foundation was Bret, but only barely. Anvil was always the better talker, but not good enough to outshine Bret's looks, so it was probably 55/45. As heels it was Jimmy Hart. Sorry, but its true.
Bulldogs was Dynamite, but barely since neither could talk at the time.
Colossal Connection was actually Andre, mostly because Haku was a low mid-carder. Heenan was good about not overshadowing his guys.
Now, the big question, was the Midnight Express carried by Cornette?
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Post by Duck Holliday on Aug 30, 2015 23:34:04 GMT -5
See, when I think of the Mega Powers, and I'm not trying to under-sell Hogan cause clearly he played an important role, I think of Hogan being pretty much a vanilla straight man (who'd often come to save the day) and Savage bubbling with paranoia and jealously. His performance just had more going on. And Savage brought Liz to the table, which played a critical role in the team. That's why I give Macho Man the edge. It has nothing with him being more romanticized or the better wrestler.
I can't speak as much to Cornette and the Midnight Express.
Edit: I wanted to give my thoughts on Rockers and Hart Foundation. Rockers.. while a team it goes to Marty for me. He's a tragically underappreciated talent. People also forget how over he was. Clearly Shawn was destined for something greater... But as a team Marty felt like the man.
Hart is probably closer than it seems on the surface. Bret was the overall better talent, but as said prior, Anvil was better on the mic and he carried a slightly better presence. Jim lent a brawler since of legitimacy. Honestly I might go 50/50.
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Post by PJ on Aug 31, 2015 14:45:22 GMT -5
The Hart Foundation - was clearly Bret in the ring, but Anvil on the mic. So for them as a whole I would say 50/50 maybe 60/40 but still to close to say either carried the other more.
Bulldogs - I have to go Dynamite. He did most talking and most of the ring work when they were together.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2015 14:47:06 GMT -5
See, when I think of the Mega Powers, and I'm not trying to under-sell Hogan cause clearly he played an important role, I think of Hogan being pretty much a vanilla straight man (who'd often come to save the day) and Savage bubbling with paranoia and jealously. His performance just had more going on. And Savage brought Liz to the table, which played a critical role in the team. That's why I give Macho Man the edge. It has nothing with him being more romanticized or the better wrestler. I can't speak as much to Cornette and the Midnight Express. Edit: I wanted to give my thoughts on Rockers and Hart Foundation. Rockers.. while a team it goes to Marty for me. He's a tragically underappreciated talent. People also forget how over he was. Clearly Shawn was destined for something greater... But as a team Marty felt like the man. Hart is probably closer than it seems on the surface. Bret was the overall better talent, but as said prior, Anvil was better on the mic and he carried a slightly better presence. Jim lent a brawler since of legitimacy. Honestly I might go 50/50. A very well thought out post......great points in here man.
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