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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2015 12:09:46 GMT -5
That it is. Since it is WOMEN'S sports not "Divas" whatever the that's supposed to mean. I'm hoping for the WWE Women's World Championship to show up. The name sounds much more appealing and important. The old Women's title has a little prestige to it, with the right booking they could actually make it feel important. They won't though. Exactly! Women like Becky, Sasha, Charlotte, Paige, Naomi, Natalya, Emma, Alicia and one day Eva Marie and hell even Tamina! Could be booked correctly with the women's championship. The women's champion had holders like Trish, Lita, Victoria, Mickie, Ivory, Molly, Jazz, Melina, Michelle, Layla, Beth, Chyna etc. Girls who are remembered and knew what they were doing! Plus girls like Dana Brooke & Bayley could fit with the title. All the NXT girls could
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2015 12:10:44 GMT -5
You cant take a "Revolution" serious when you wont take the title off of the main reason you need a revolution. Bellas are divas, women like Charlotte, becky, paige and sasha are wrestlers....lets get back to wrestling. Exactly. I do think the Bella's have REALLY improved in the ring but are not Becky & Sasha's standard
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2015 12:11:45 GMT -5
I'm happy there is more divas action on Raw and Smackdown....now it takes less time to watch the shows as I can FAST FORWARD MORE! Not be rude or start arguments why make a comment about Divas being time to fast forward in a thread about Women's Wrestling?
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Aug 21, 2015 12:23:57 GMT -5
The old Women's title has a little prestige to it, with the right booking they could actually make it feel important. They won't though. Exactly! Women like Becky, Sasha, Charlotte, Paige, Naomi, Natalya, Emma, Alicia and one day Eva Marie and hell even Tamina! Could be booked correctly with the women's championship. The women's champion had holders like Trish, Lita, Victoria, Mickie, Ivory, Molly, Jazz, Melina, Michelle, Layla, Beth, Chyna etc. Girls who are remembered and knew what they were doing! Plus girls like Dana Brooke & Bayley could fit with the title. All the NXT girls could This started good. Then you mentioned Eva Marie and Tamina and it all went downhill.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2015 12:36:04 GMT -5
The crowd sucked.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2015 12:44:04 GMT -5
Exactly! Women like Becky, Sasha, Charlotte, Paige, Naomi, Natalya, Emma, Alicia and one day Eva Marie and hell even Tamina! Could be booked correctly with the women's championship. The women's champion had holders like Trish, Lita, Victoria, Mickie, Ivory, Molly, Jazz, Melina, Michelle, Layla, Beth, Chyna etc. Girls who are remembered and knew what they were doing! Plus girls like Dana Brooke & Bayley could fit with the title. All the NXT girls could This started good. Then you mentioned Eva Marie and Tamina and it all went downhill. I also think that Alicia Fox is the pits.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2015 13:03:06 GMT -5
I don't see the difference between someone winning the womens belt and someone winning the divas belt.Both belts have there negatives and positives but there have been a lot of talented females who have won the divas belt(Mickie James,Beth,Natalya,Eve Torres,Michelle McCool,Melina,Aj lee,Paige,Nikki Bella) thats a great talented group Right there now add Charlotte,Sasha,Becky,Naomi,etc and the belt could be on the way to being the best.They just need to change the look of the belt thats all.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2015 13:21:07 GMT -5
Exactly! Women like Becky, Sasha, Charlotte, Paige, Naomi, Natalya, Emma, Alicia and one day Eva Marie and hell even Tamina! Could be booked correctly with the women's championship. The women's champion had holders like Trish, Lita, Victoria, Mickie, Ivory, Molly, Jazz, Melina, Michelle, Layla, Beth, Chyna etc. Girls who are remembered and knew what they were doing! Plus girls like Dana Brooke & Bayley could fit with the title. All the NXT girls could This started good. Then you mentioned Eva Marie and Tamina and it all went downhill. If Tamina & Eva had TONS more training and I mean TONS! Went to acting classes or something got good gimmicks we could get behind I feel like they would suit holding the title.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2015 13:22:06 GMT -5
I guess technically I shouldn't of. But I truly am happy they are getting more time..because it takes less time for me to watch. Just my opinion Not be rude or start arguments why make a comment about Divas being time to fast forward in a thread about Women's Wrestling? Fair enough
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Aug 21, 2015 13:36:25 GMT -5
This started good. Then you mentioned Eva Marie and Tamina and it all went downhill. If Tamina & Eva had TONS more training and I mean TONS! Went to acting classes or something got good gimmicks we could get behind I feel like they would suit holding the title.
Tamina is 36 and has only gotten worse. She should never even come close to the title. Eva Marie is 31 and has a better chance, but still needs a TON of work in the ring and her acting skills/lack of facial expressions make her hard to buy as a character as well.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2015 16:16:42 GMT -5
What she say go
Cuz she da boss
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2015 16:20:32 GMT -5
Fans didn't care about a heel vs heel match, with no build, and on top of that was a terrible match?!
I for one am shocked and appalled.
You can't just expect the fans to care about something by saying "we care about them now!" Especially after 10+ years of mediocrity. This isn't the fans fault, it's WWE.
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Post by Wrestlaholic on Aug 21, 2015 17:00:38 GMT -5
A lot of fans don't care about the Divas because they've been conditioned over the last 10years not to. This whole Divas Revolution thing has been a bust for me, they've done nothing to make me care about the NXT divas on the roster. They've brought 3 new girls up and gone you 3 are white so you go together, you 3 aren't white so you go together and then just stuck a random girl with the Bellas the make it up to 3. People who don't watch NXT know nothing about these girls, they know nothing of their characters or personalities and they haven't shown anything of that on the main roster. They've just brought 3 new girls to the roster and let them have longer matches. No promos, no video clips just a few backstage segments of "Its a revolution, let's kick ass etc" sorry but that ain't enough to get people to care. All the Divas Revolution has done is take the attention off of Nikki Bella passing AJs title record and to kill time until Eva Marie can be passible enough to be the face of the division. Charlotte or Sasha will never be the face of the division because they aren't super model enough or have big tits. If HHH/Steph were running things maybe, but with Vince/Dunn not a chance! I truly believe now that Eva Marie will be the one to take Nikki Bellas title from her (but not before Nikki defends it against the 3 NXT Divas). Perfect for Total Divas, but a total joke as regards wrestling. Before everyone calls me crazy for this just remember this is the WWE and Vince and Kevin Dunn control this crap. Sorry for the rant but that's how I feel. I couldn't agree more with all you've said... It's one thing I think WWE have killed over the years. When it was the 'women's' division, I preferred it, I appreciate the times have changed, but for me from going from people like Trish Stratus, Lita, Chyna, Molly Holly, Mickie James, Victoria, I appreciated their talents, but now it just seems a mess and more of a beauty pageant. I expect heat from this, but I'm honestly not a fan.
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Post by wrestlingfan1000 on Aug 21, 2015 17:08:43 GMT -5
Hated those chants during Sasha Banks vs Nikki Bella's match its disrespectful, I really enjoy the divas getting more TV time but to have those chants from some of the fans is stupid.
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Post by Calcifer Boheme on Aug 21, 2015 18:31:57 GMT -5
I agree with Shasha. That chant annoyed me to no end.
But I also think WWE is doing a poor job right now with this revolution. It doesn't matter how talented the workers are or how important they tell us everything is, if they have the same nothing matches, even if they're a little longer, they can't make people care.
Team Bella should be the ultimate heels. Everyone (except maybe JBL) should make a point about what's been wrong with the division, and the Bellas' part in that. They need to showcase quality matches that build to something. Instead, they keep repeating how The Bellas claim to have started the revolution, and none of the commentators dispute it. Not in any meaningful way, at least. And Team BAD are the main heels. All three are very good in the role, but that's not the story that should be told right now.
Looking back, even the first night was done wrong. Paige should have introduced her teammates, and Naomi & Tamina should have introduced Sasha, or at very least been aware she was going to team with them.
On top of everything, the belt is being treated as an afterthought. Nikki's not defending it, and likely won't be until she beats the record. I don't even care about the record itself, if they were treating it like it meant something. Have everyone going after it and her defending it, then it would be ok.
In reality, The focus needs to be taken off the Bellas and put onto the women who can actually work. Unfortunately, as long as Total Divas is around, that likely won't happen. I'd be ok with them being around if they would make Nikki the super heel she was at the start of the year, but as a face or tweener they are dull.
No matter how talented any of them are though, it has to be treated with importance if they want the fans to accept that the division is important. The reason the division flourished in the early 2000s wasn't the talent (though they ceretainly had that), but the fact that they were treated like real characters in real story lines fighting for real reasons. They weren't just a bunch of catty women thrown into feuds over nothing.
I really hope they can turn things around. They have some of the most talented women that have ever worked for the company, even among the most talented people, and should be highlighted as such.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2015 19:08:48 GMT -5
On top of everything, the belt is being treated as an afterthought. Nikki's not defending it, and likely won't be until she beats the record. I don't even care about the record itself, if they were treating it like it meant something. Have everyone going after it and her defending it, then it would be ok. This. When A.J was champion she always faced people - Kaitlyn, Brie Bella, Nikki Bella, Naomi, Natalya, Cameron, Paige plus she fought the WHOLE Diva Roster at Wrestlemania! Nikki has done the least title defences for a Divas Champion that's had it longer than 100 days...
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Post by King Silva on Aug 21, 2015 19:12:03 GMT -5
I tend to agree that lumping all the divas into the three 3 person factions who constantly have round robin matches isn't really helping anyone get over. IMHO, if WWE really wants the Divas to be as over as the male superstars, they need the same attention to storylines (actually more since most of the men are also suffering from a similar lack of storylines) and feuds that aren't based around the vague "Divas Revolution" concept. Maybe a Queen of the Ring tournament would be a good way to start, using the matches to set up some real feuds while establishing a true #1 contender instead of the weekly random challenger for the title. I would LOVE a Queen of the Ring tournament with the winner getting a shot at the Divas Title and or make the finals for the belt (Nikki may even lose it in the tournament but I would doubt that).
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Post by theMOESIAH on Aug 21, 2015 19:19:57 GMT -5
I know this isn't the point of the thread, but why the hell would anyone chant for JBL???
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Post by threehgame on Aug 21, 2015 20:42:43 GMT -5
So unless the Divas division is teams forever, which would be awful, I'd have to imagine that a good number of them will be sent down or be off TV whenever the teams do break up. That's what I was thinking to. I could see Fox and Tamina being fired and Becky going back to NXT. Maybe even the Bellas taking a break when E-Marie makes the main roster.
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Post by King Silva on Aug 22, 2015 4:03:26 GMT -5
I know this isn't the point of the thread, but why the hell would anyone chant for JBL??? People think they are cute but they are NOT...
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