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Post by marino13 on Aug 21, 2015 8:52:44 GMT -5
I've been enjoying the majority of the Diva matches the last month or so. Some of the women have impressed me more than others but overall I think things are headed in the right direction. The NXT girls have impressed me thoroughly. Especially Becky & Sasha. Charlotte lost points from the botched pin last week on SD.
That being said, I hope once SS is over, the allegiances die off. And it's a every woman for herself mentality.
As soon as I realized what the fans were cheering, I immediately feared Vince & Kevin will use these Lesnar chants as an excuse as to why the Divas shouldn't be pushed. And that everything Triple H and the NXT girls have accomplished was ruined instantly. Hope that's not the case.
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Post by BrIaNMeRcY on Aug 21, 2015 9:04:15 GMT -5
I've said this in the past and I'll say it again. Some of these women are phoning it in. Something you should never do. Additionally, the majority of WWE fans have been hard wired not to care about women's matches. When you look how the WWE's women's division, you have to really go back and look at the Diva Search Era. The Diva Search set them back a couple of years. The three stand out women were Michelle McCool, Layla, and Eve Torres. Those three were good for what it was. The WWE needs to try to recondition their audience to revere what these women are doing. It is beginning to hurt these women by being overexposed. When you overexpose a talent, they lose all of that special appeal.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2015 9:11:47 GMT -5
It sucks that it's booked so poorly since this is the best crop of talent they've probably ever had. Definitely the best since the days of Trish, Lita, Victoria etc. I wouldn't know. I haven't seen any of NXT, so just looking at the wwe.com videos of the matches, if these women do have talent it isn't coming across at all. There not gonna get rid of it.There has been some great runs with the belt including AJ Lee's 295 day run with the belt.And Nikki is doing fine with it as well.It may not seem much now but the divas title could improve over the years. You may call that a great run, but I honest to god cannot remember a single thing she did with the title while she had it. You don't remember the pipebombshell and her feud with total divas? and Her match with Kaitlyn at Payback? Even If I wasnt a Diva fan I thought those were pretty memorable for its time.
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Aug 21, 2015 9:26:03 GMT -5
Once these teams are broken up, you would figure a lot of those Divas are either going to be relegated to Main Event/Superstars, or sent back to NXT.
The only reason you can have a 9 Diva roster is because there are 3 teams and they are constantly fighting each other. You couldn't have 9 singles Divas all going after the same belt.
So unless the Divas division is teams forever, which would be awful, I'd have to imagine that a good number of them will be sent down or be off TV whenever the teams do break up.
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Post by 5th Horsewoman on Aug 21, 2015 9:26:06 GMT -5
It was in Brock's hometown and the match did take place right before the final segment.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Aug 21, 2015 9:36:03 GMT -5
I wouldn't know. I haven't seen any of NXT, so just looking at the wwe.com videos of the matches, if these women do have talent it isn't coming across at all. You may call that a great run, but I honest to god cannot remember a single thing she did with the title while she had it. You don't remember the pipebombshell and her feud with total divas? and Her match with Kaitlyn at Payback? Even If I wasnt a Diva fan I thought those were pretty memorable for its time. The promo and the Kaitlyn feud were the highlights. The feud with the Total Divas outside of the promo was pretty blah.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2015 10:04:38 GMT -5
It's not working as well because they stuck them with the boring as sh** main roster divas who are mediocre at best. Bellas, Fox, Noami, and Snuka are trash. And they aren't doing anything with actual talented ones like Emma and Nattie.
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Post by J12 on Aug 21, 2015 10:05:58 GMT -5
The Divas Revolution has been booked absolutely miserably from the start. I've been saying it since we were a week in. It's nothing more than WWE telling you that they're doing something great rather than just doing it and letting the quality of the product they're putting out speak for itself.
If you have to drive the point home every week about how great the Divas Revolution is, that's usually a pretty indication that it's not very great.
Now, that's not Sasha's fault. Or Charlotte's, or Becky's, or any of the other girls' for that matter. It's the fact that absolutely nothing has changed except that now we get two matches instead of one, and now they're 8 minutes instead of 3. There's still no character development. There's still no reason to care. The only effort being made is to put the girls out there more so WWE can say "hey, look what we're doing! Aren't we great?" Without purpose or direction, though, that's going to do more harm than good.
They're failing on the main roster because every girl fails on the main roster. If you're a female wrestler working main WWE TV, the only opportunity you have to establish a character for yourself is Total Divas. That's the problem.
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Post by Daria on Aug 21, 2015 10:25:31 GMT -5
The ONLY team that's shown character even without the ability to is team BAD. Naomi , Sasha and Tamina are the only team that looks great together. They all just click. Naomi is one of the best divas on the mic right now.
charlotte and Paige have no character and Becky just has it barely, they're an awkward team and don't have any chemistry together.
The Bella's are the second best team tbh.
The matches have been from decent to great and that's all I can ask for. Besides some messy spots or bitches from some girls the matches have still been good.
I don't know why anyone has that many hopes for the revolution with how creative is right now tbh, it's better then anything these last few years but still isn't that great at all. I also hate how strong the nxt girls are being booked but that's just imo.
The MVP's for this storyline have to be Sasha Banks, Naomi, Becky and Brie Bella.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2015 10:35:07 GMT -5
You don't remember the pipebombshell and her feud with total divas? and Her match with Kaitlyn at Payback? Even If I wasnt a Diva fan I thought those were pretty memorable for its time. The promo and the Kaitlyn feud were the highlights. The feud with the Total Divas outside of the promo was pretty blah. The feud with total divas may have been a little meh but it got aj over as a dominant champion plus more exposure for total divas so it's a win win for both sides.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Aug 21, 2015 10:40:30 GMT -5
The ONLY team that's shown character even without the ability to is team BAD. Naomi , Sasha and Tamina are the only team that looks great together. They all just click. Naomi is one of the best divas on the mic right now. charlotte and Paige have no character and Becky just has it barely, they're an awkward team and don't have any chemistry together. The Bella's are the second best team tbh. The matches have been from decent to great and that's all I can ask for. Besides some messy spots or bitches from some girls the matches have still been good. I don't know why anyone has that many hopes for the revolution with how creative is right now tbh, it's better then anything these last few years but still isn't that great at all. I also hate how strong the nxt girls are being booked but that's just imo. The MVP's for this storyline have to be Sasha Banks, Naomi, Becky and Brie Bella. My biggest gripe with Brie Bella is that she needs to decide if she's heel or face. Granted, this may have to do more with whoever is laying out the matches but still. She goes from doing something heelish to trying to rally the crowd and do the Daniel Bryan kicks.
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Post by Glorydaysofwrestling on Aug 21, 2015 10:43:16 GMT -5
I'm happy there is more divas action on Raw and Smackdown....now it takes less time to watch the shows as I can FAST FORWARD MORE!
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Post by Nivro™ on Aug 21, 2015 10:45:25 GMT -5
You cant take a "Revolution" serious when you wont take the title off of the main reason you need a revolution. Bellas are divas, women like Charlotte, becky, paige and sasha are wrestlers....lets get back to wrestling.
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Post by King Richius on Aug 21, 2015 10:49:39 GMT -5
I tend to agree that lumping all the divas into the three 3 person factions who constantly have round robin matches isn't really helping anyone get over. IMHO, if WWE really wants the Divas to be as over as the male superstars, they need the same attention to storylines (actually more since most of the men are also suffering from a similar lack of storylines) and feuds that aren't based around the vague "Divas Revolution" concept. Maybe a Queen of the Ring tournament would be a good way to start, using the matches to set up some real feuds while establishing a true #1 contender instead of the weekly random challenger for the title.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2015 10:59:40 GMT -5
You cant take a "Revolution" serious when you wont take the title off of the main reason you need a revolution. Bellas are divas, women like Charlotte, becky, paige and sasha are wrestlers....lets get back to wrestling. The bellas are good tho.Matter of fact probably two of the best female workers on the roster.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Aug 21, 2015 11:05:22 GMT -5
You cant take a "Revolution" serious when you wont take the title off of the main reason you need a revolution. Bellas are divas, women like Charlotte, becky, paige and sasha are wrestlers....lets get back to wrestling. The bellas are good tho.Matter of fact probably two of the best female workers on the roster. I don't think they're bad but they do need to play their damn roles. If you're heels, don't go out and act like faces.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2015 11:10:05 GMT -5
I wouldn't know. I haven't seen any of NXT, so just looking at the wwe.com videos of the matches, if these women do have talent it isn't coming across at all. You may call that a great run, but I honest to god cannot remember a single thing she did with the title while she had it. You don't remember the pipebombshell and her feud with total divas? and Her match with Kaitlyn at Payback? Even If I wasnt a Diva fan I thought those were pretty memorable for its time. People throw the word pipebomb around for a pass time now. So no I really don't remember any of that being anything special. The most memorable moments she had weren't anything to do with the title. Pushing DBry/Punk through the table, GM etc. The Kaitlyn eliminating Eve botch was a lot more memorable than the match she had with AJ.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2015 11:10:39 GMT -5
The bellas are good tho.Matter of fact probably two of the best female workers on the roster. I don't think they're bad but they do need to play their damn roles. If you're heels, don't go out and act like faces. It's not there fault blame WWE Booking for not fully establishing them as heels.And plus the crowd cheers for them anyways.
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Post by Daria on Aug 21, 2015 11:25:15 GMT -5
The ONLY team that's shown character even without the ability to is team BAD. Naomi , Sasha and Tamina are the only team that looks great together. They all just click. Naomi is one of the best divas on the mic right now. charlotte and Paige have no character and Becky just has it barely, they're an awkward team and don't have any chemistry together. The Bella's are the second best team tbh. The matches have been from decent to great and that's all I can ask for. Besides some messy spots or bitches from some girls the matches have still been good. I don't know why anyone has that many hopes for the revolution with how creative is right now tbh, it's better then anything these last few years but still isn't that great at all. I also hate how strong the nxt girls are being booked but that's just imo. The MVP's for this storyline have to be Sasha Banks, Naomi, Becky and Brie Bella. My biggest gripe with Brie Bella is that she needs to decide if she's heel or face. Granted, this may have to do more with whoever is laying out the matches but still. She goes from doing something heelish to trying to rally the crowd and do the Daniel Bryan kicks. I think it's more so creative telling them how to act rather then them just trying to be both faces and heels tbh, it's odd but I wouldn't place the blame on the bellas
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Post by torriefan4life on Aug 21, 2015 11:37:33 GMT -5
They don't do good storylines with the divas anymore, and they are running this Divas Revolution crap down our throats! The fans were bored after 3 hours of Raw and were ready to see Brock, they should not have let that match be the last match on Raw. When people saw the clock running low on time and they had not seen Brock yet they got mad and I don't blame them.
Honestly are the divas that tore up over 1 bad crowd on Raw?
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