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Post by marino13 on Sept 6, 2015 18:29:56 GMT -5
Amell looked more like a legit threat than Leno or Federline ever did.
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Post by ARUN on Sept 6, 2015 19:57:53 GMT -5
I thought WWE did a pretty good job of using Amell without ruining the business. A Tag match was certainly the right way to go about it. Had Amell went in and defeated Stardust or Barrett clean by himself, then I'd agree. But Neville got the pin-fall and Amell played his part perfectly IMO. Celebrities have been a part of wrestling since the early 80's. So there is no reason to expect it to stop anytime soon. Very well said. I couldn't agree more. Celebrities are always going to be used in wwe. Amell did way better than people expected. Not to mention he is a big wwe fan, and not someone who is just there to promote a movie or show.
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Post by ThugSuperstar on Sept 6, 2015 21:03:45 GMT -5
You forgot the fact that he was still making the company millions of dollars and was an active part of storylines because he was on TV every week. So, no, that's really not anywhere close to the same thing. Amell was making the company money, drawing mainstream publicity etc etc. So yes, in terms of crying about non-wrestlers beating up wrestlers, it's the same thing. Whether it's a broken-down wreck of a man or a celebrity who never had a match before, if active wrestlers selling for a non-wrestler is embarrassing then ol' Stone Cold doesn't know whether to be a hypocrite or wind his watch. I highly doubt Stephen Amell made the company any money. Mainstream publicity? Maybe slightly, and that depends on what you consider to be mainstream. It's not like the guy is a huge movie star or anything; I'm willing to bet, myself included, that a majority of people didn't even know who this guy was the first time they heard his name. Austin giving Christian or Jericho a Stunner when he was the GM back in 2003 was completely different because it was part of a larger storyline and helped both guys get over even more than they already were. Austin was still a wrestler who was transitioning into an authority figure on TV at the time and the purpose at that time was to show Austin struggling being able to become GM without beating people up anymore.
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Post by Booger Red on Sept 6, 2015 23:00:08 GMT -5
Sounds like the kinda match that makes you wanna go home and beat your wife, right, Stone Cold? What? What? Dun dun, dun dun dun dun
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Post by Joey Cush on Sept 6, 2015 23:47:11 GMT -5
I see nothing wrong with Austins comments. I think we all would prefer there never be any celebrity involvement in wrestling and if there was, we would rather them not be heavily involved. And then, if they had to be heavily involved in the action, you'd prefer a physical athlete like Tyson or Rousey.
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Post by HHH316 on Sept 6, 2015 23:51:44 GMT -5
I don't disagree with Austin. But as a business, I understand why the WWE does it. But because I don't like it, I didn't watch the match. I went & did laundry.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2015 2:54:46 GMT -5
Lets just say this...
If YOU owned wwe would you involve celebrities in storylines??
Would you use them in a match??
I probably wouldn't, ild stick to great wrestling.. Smackdown 2002/2003 style.
Yet in the right circumstances its entertaining as hell for example Kevin Owens powerbombing MGK off the stage.
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Post by The Future on Sept 7, 2015 11:00:42 GMT -5
Says the man who's acted in around 20 films with no prior training (talent) or experience.
It's not like this was David arquette winning the world title all over again.
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Post by Himmy! on Sept 7, 2015 11:23:58 GMT -5
I completely agree with him.
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Sept 7, 2015 11:54:53 GMT -5
Austin giving Christian or Jericho a Stunner when he was the GM back in 2003 was completely different because it was part of a larger storyline and helped both guys get over even more than they already were. Just like the actor guy helped Stardust and King Bad News get over more, because that was the first time they were actually doing anything. If you're in favour of non-wrestlers beating up wrestlers, that's cool. But if you're against it in principle, actually commit to being against it. Don't just be against it if you don't like the guy doing it.
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Post by J12 on Sept 7, 2015 12:23:31 GMT -5
The match didn't bother me much at all, but I think Austin's opinion on the matter is totally legitimate. I understand completely why he'd feel that way.
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Post by LostHawk05 on Sept 8, 2015 15:24:27 GMT -5
In general I agree with his statements in regards to celebrity involvement. . However, I feel this was the best celebrity match WWE has put on. Arrow was 'believable' and it didn't hurt Barrett or Stardust overall.
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Post by Brad on Sept 8, 2015 22:49:21 GMT -5
I liked it but I can't deny that he has a point
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Post by avanillamidget on Sept 8, 2015 23:00:58 GMT -5
I pretty much tweeted that the entire thing was a disgrace to the business, and recently passed Roddy Piper who also wouldn't like it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2015 7:20:28 GMT -5
I really liked the match, simply because I felt it was a much more authentic and enjoyable way to force a mainstream celebrity down our throats. Unlike the Jon Stewart incident..
But I do agree with Stone Cold, it takes a degree of shine off these big, tough, fearless wrestlers when they're placed in an angle which makes them appear to cowar from an average citizen. And in the match itself, Emell needn't have used any offence, but he did. Again, surely a lifetime of training would render the Arrows snapmares obsolete? Apparently not.
It's dangerous booking, but I think it turned out okay. Nobody got buried and it was the Red Arrow that scored the fall.
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