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Post by PJ on Sept 20, 2015 10:58:28 GMT -5
You could off if you think the new ones arent worth the dm tag or price. Aside from not the best line up, the new ones come with the same amount of accessories as the old ones and are great figures. The price is higher, because i could assume the packaging is more pricey and im guessing they are made in lesser quantities. Not the best lineup? Until Hogan's mouth got him in trouble we were getting Flair, Hogan, Razor, Sting Starcade '97, Hollywood Hogan (replaced with SDCC Taker) and '90 GAB Sting. That's a fantastic lineup of superstars. The only clunker is the fill-in Taker because it's a rerelease of a figure many of us got in 2010. (And even it isn't really a clunker) They are still worth the price because of who they are, but compared to what the original DM's got they are lacking for the most part. Only the DM Warrior had less in terms of accessories, but he made up for it in the amount of paint apps.
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Post by Sizzle on Sept 20, 2015 11:02:32 GMT -5
Sting, Hogan, Flair, Razor Ramon, all of these people are huge legends. That's why they cost so much.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2015 11:05:02 GMT -5
You could off if you think the new ones arent worth the dm tag or price. Aside from not the best line up, the new ones come with the same amount of accessories as the old ones and are great figures. The price is higher, because i could assume the packaging is more pricey and im guessing they are made in lesser quantities. Not the best lineup? Until Hogan's mouth got him in trouble we were getting Flair, Hogan, Razor, Sting Starcade '97, Hollywood Hogan (replaced with SDCC Taker) and '90 GAB Sting. That's a fantastic lineup of superstars. The only clunker is the fill-in Taker because it's a rerelease of a figure many of us got in 2010. (And even it isn't really a clunker) They are still worth the price because of who they are, but compared to what the original DM's got they are lacking for the most part. Only the DM Warrior had less in terms of accessories, but he made up for it in the amount of paint apps. 'Taker's not the replacement for Hollywood Hogan. 'Taker is the 4th Quarter DM for this year, and Hollywood Hogan was supposed to be the 1st Quarter DM for 2016. Hopefully, GAB Sting will be bumped up to that spot.
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Post by Mox on Sept 20, 2015 11:08:33 GMT -5
Truth is they're not worth what they cost. But in 10 years you'll be paying $29.99 for an elite. It's just the way it is. I'm on a Mattel hiatus while I work on my Jakks collection and I don't miss Mattels at all.
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Post by PJ on Sept 20, 2015 11:11:31 GMT -5
Not the best lineup? Until Hogan's mouth got him in trouble we were getting Flair, Hogan, Razor, Sting Starcade '97, Hollywood Hogan (replaced with SDCC Taker) and '90 GAB Sting. That's a fantastic lineup of superstars. The only clunker is the fill-in Taker because it's a rerelease of a figure many of us got in 2010. (And even it isn't really a clunker) They are still worth the price because of who they are, but compared to what the original DM's got they are lacking for the most part. Only the DM Warrior had less in terms of accessories, but he made up for it in the amount of paint apps. 'Taker's not the replacement for Hollywood Hogan. 'Taker is the 4th Quarter DM for this year, and Hollywood Hogan was supposed to be the 1st Quarter DM for 2016. Hopefully, GAB Sting will be bumped up to that spot. That's right. Here's hoping! While some of these new ones (especially the the Sting's are actually DM in his career) all four (Flair, Sting, Hogan, Razor) are all DM worthy for their names alone. Others I see as DM from their names alone are Goldberg who can very easily be a reg FB if signed and Jericho. But both people would gladly pay DM for.
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Sept 20, 2015 11:13:35 GMT -5
I went on a short walk from my home to a walmart, and they had a figure for Razor Ramon, they charged 25 bucks for it, with that money I could've bought 2 standard figures and some starbucks OR 1 Elite figure and 1 Standard figure. I was wondering why they cost so much. Because of the box. Most DM's are nothing more special than a regular Elite and they could just as easily have been FLASHBACKS for $17.99 - $19.99 instead of $24.99 - $25.99. Ric Flair had the beautiful cloth robe, and Sting had the awesome trench coat....but: Hulk Hogan had a rubber shirt, rubber bandana, and plastic necklace. Except for the belt, nothing special here. Elites come with rubber shirts and belts all the time without needing a price increase. Razor Ramon, just like Hogan, had a rubber vest and plastic necklace....and the IC belt is nothing special either. EASILY could have been a Flashback Elite. The cancelled DM of Hollywook Hogan was just a REPAINT of the Target HOF Hogan, and based on what we've seen from All American Sting, it looks like his jacket is rubber just like the ones that the Elite 35 Matadores. So really, most DM's could easily be Flashback Elites. I think they make the DM's be bigger names to try and force you to pay more. The first Mattel Hogan, Flair, Sting, and Razor were DM's so if you wanted those names you had tyo get the DM and pay more. There was not yet a cheaper alternative.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2015 11:15:25 GMT -5
I like the boxes. I could complain about prices but it'd be useless. I could also not buy them but then I'd miss out on great figures.
I'll just buy the DM's
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2015 11:18:14 GMT -5
Because they be so pimp, bro. This.
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Post by ZDB on Sept 20, 2015 11:20:26 GMT -5
Defining Moments Ultimate Warrior - Insanely detailed attire as well as an insanely detailed CLOTH entrance duster Defining Moments Razor Ramon: Plastic vest with little paint detail, IC title which is missing it's paint detail. Small plastic chains. You could F off bud What do you honestly expect them to do with razor, detail wise? Figure looks great and honestly looks much better than normal elites. Plastic vest works perfectly. God forbid we dont get a cloth shirt with every figure. Times are changing and products and resources dont cost the same as they used to. as i said, if the line up was slightly different..complaints would be ao persistant. But hey, you all will buy them either way. Two belts that are actually PAINTED (ex. Legends Perfect's belt) And a ladder
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Post by Alittlefloki on Sept 20, 2015 11:20:43 GMT -5
definitely an investment though. keep it boxed and leave it a few years and you'll be sitting on gold kid
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Post by @.@ Hempsterdance @.@ on Sept 20, 2015 11:25:16 GMT -5
and yet with all the bitching about it people will still buy them...funny.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2015 12:38:38 GMT -5
I think the price is ok, if you don't want it quickly, wait till the reduce them like the Hogans and Razors were
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Post by LostHawk05 on Sept 20, 2015 12:43:33 GMT -5
The old ones were actually worth it We are getting ripped the F off with the new ones Anyone who wants to tell me Razor Ramon was worth the DM budget can go die He should've had a second IC and a ladderThis.
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Post by Calcifer Boheme on Sept 20, 2015 13:57:47 GMT -5
man, there's a lot of complaining. Have I been missing this up until now? We are getting first timers with new head sculpts, and in some cases new bucks with more and/or better accessories. A regular elite Hogan wouldn't have gotten the antrance gear AND a brand new title that was always likely to be a one use deal (and definitely is right now). Flair got us a cloth robe and sting got a vinyl one, where an elite might have given us plastic. Razor also has three accessories, and while that can be argued he would have gotten them in a regular elite line, between that and the decos, someone else would have suffered if he was in a series. Undertaker's not a first timer, but he was a last minute replacement, and it still and incredibly detailed figure. on top of that, you have to remember there's now only a $5 difference in price, as opposed to a $10 one. The Hall of Fame sets are only $3 less. The fact that there's less of a quality increase than before isn't too surprising. Besides, even the original line was missing accessories people felt should have been there, such as Savage's shirt. It's not perfect, but we're getting really nice figures for only a small amount more than elites. They're fine with me.
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Post by Mox on Sept 20, 2015 14:14:15 GMT -5
man, there's a lot of complaining. Have I been missing this up until now? We are getting first timers with new head sculpts, and in some cases new bucks with more and/or better accessories. A regular elite Hogan wouldn't have gotten the antrance gear AND a brand new title that was always likely to be a one use deal (and definitely is right now). Flair got us a cloth robe and sting got a vinyl one, where an elite might have given us plastic. Razor also has three accessories, and while that can be argued he would have gotten them in a regular elite line, between that and the decos, someone else would have suffered if he was in a series. Undertaker's not a first timer, but he was a last minute replacement, and it still and incredibly detailed figure. on top of that, you have to remember there's now only a $5 difference in price, as opposed to a $10 one. The Hall of Fame sets are only $3 less. The fact that there's less of a quality increase than before isn't too surprising. Besides, even the original line was missing accessories people felt should have been there, such as Savage's shirt. It's not perfect, but we're getting really nice figures for only a small amount more than elites. They're fine with me. Ok. I see your points. But how much does one Razor figure cost to make? I feel like that should determine the outrage level. I don't know, but I'd guess less than $10.00. Maybe as little as $5.00. These aren't made with precious metals and stones. How many of each figure is made? I don't know, 10,000? Maybe 20,000? I just can't see the cost per figure being very much, despite what Mattel wants you to believe. I wonder if we are paying five times more than it costs to produce the figure.
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Post by dodgerman on Sept 20, 2015 14:29:02 GMT -5
man, there's a lot of complaining. Have I been missing this up until now? We are getting first timers with new head sculpts, and in some cases new bucks with more and/or better accessories. A regular elite Hogan wouldn't have gotten the antrance gear AND a brand new title that was always likely to be a one use deal (and definitely is right now). Flair got us a cloth robe and sting got a vinyl one, where an elite might have given us plastic. Razor also has three accessories, and while that can be argued he would have gotten them in a regular elite line, between that and the decos, someone else would have suffered if he was in a series. Undertaker's not a first timer, but he was a last minute replacement, and it still and incredibly detailed figure. on top of that, you have to remember there's now only a $5 difference in price, as opposed to a $10 one. The Hall of Fame sets are only $3 less. The fact that there's less of a quality increase than before isn't too surprising. Besides, even the original line was missing accessories people felt should have been there, such as Savage's shirt. It's not perfect, but we're getting really nice figures for only a small amount more than elites. They're fine with me. Ok. I see your points. But how much does one Razor figure cost to make? I feel like that should determine the outrage level. I don't know, but I'd guess less than $10.00. Maybe as little as $5.00. These aren't made with precious metals and stones. How many of each figure is made? I don't know, 10,000? Maybe 20,000? I just can't see the cost per figure being very much, despite what Mattel wants you to believe. I wonder if we are paying five times more than it costs to produce the figure. It's probably the factory workers who are probably making more than 75 cents an hour.
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Post by Figure kingdom on Sept 20, 2015 14:48:56 GMT -5
It feels like im getting ripped off with this wave of DM. We used to have high deco figures or at least tons of cloth accessories. The line should be discontinued at this point. Its been underwhelming.
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Post by PJ on Sept 20, 2015 14:53:58 GMT -5
Underwhelming?! Surfer Sting, Crow Sting, Flair, Razor, Hogan & Hollywood Hogan (before is mouth got him in trouble) that's underwhelming?!
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Post by qdogg on Sept 20, 2015 15:06:05 GMT -5
Great figures lately with huge names added to the line. Needs more accessories I agree. It's not a big deal to me to pay a few extra bucks to get some additional legends in the line so I'm cool for now.
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Post by kiloinnorcal on Sept 20, 2015 15:10:16 GMT -5
Well, they used to come with cloth goods, or extra deco or accessories, which justifiably cost more money to produce. The only one I see as a money grab that could have been an Elite was Razor Ramon. Lots of deco there but no real accessories except a vest, hmm I dunno. I can't think of any other recent DM's that weren't worthy though? Sting, cloth goods, Flair, cloth goods. Hogan, extra accessories. UT, deco. So I think it's pretty fair.
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