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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2015 17:48:08 GMT -5
Maybe they just don't see anything in him.
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Post by JC Motors on Sept 29, 2015 18:34:05 GMT -5
I think that Cesaro has been misused since he lost the US title
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Post by BØRNS on Sept 29, 2015 18:35:14 GMT -5
Heath Slater could be booked to be the face of the company. It's all about booking the right way and listening to your audience and using that feedback to modulate your booking.
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Post by cordless2016 on Sept 29, 2015 18:44:00 GMT -5
Honestly, I can see Cesaro being marketable if he got the right push. I can see a few people who can be marketable if WWE attempt to do it. The problem with Cesaro is the same that I see with other people right now. WWE has the habit of giving pushes and then depushes. Look at the Primetime Players as an example. A month ago, they were pushed as a top babyface tag team. This week, they were used to feed Harper and Strowman. Sure they put up a fight, but the purpose was to show Harper and Strowman's push. If WWE can attempt to keep pushing guys like Cesaro, sooner or later they will be marketable. I mean it took the Rock a year before he could become marketable. This. And Cesaro doesn't even get the crappy 50/50 booking the WWE gives most guys. They wonder why they have a lack of credible guys yet they book everyone to be on even ground (except Cena and Lesnar). Hell they have the perfect tool to help build stars (MITB) yet year after year the winner is booked weak as hell because heavens forbid someone gets over. The average fans like Cesaro. He gets good pops every time he comes out. If the WWE gave him some wins and a sustained push he'd get over. So hes not a great talker. Chris Benoit and RVD wern't great talkers yet both got over. Cesaro can do the same if the WWE backed him.
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Post by CMPUNKISGOOD on Sept 29, 2015 18:54:31 GMT -5
If they would if did something with Cesaro with Heyman they could of had something great
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Post by BoJack Hogan on Sept 29, 2015 19:13:45 GMT -5
He's got great charisma in the match, even during the entrance. It's all down to not being able to speak well. English isn't his first language, and he doesn't have much of a character aside from 'amazing wrestler, incredible strongman'. He's a guy like Benoit, in that during the match its all on, but the best he can do as an actual character is smirk like a cocky heel. Even as a cocky heel his verbiage is not believable. He doesn't have top babyface fire, he doesn't have heel treachery or sneakiness. He has tough and cocky, and he can only barely pull off cocky. There's a reason that Eddie Guerrero was a huge star headed to another world title at the time of his death and Chris Benoit was given a polite world title and then shuffled back down. It's why I have always said I will take the showbiz over the matches. I love Cesaro's matches, in the ring I am watching every move, behind him every step of the way....but on the mic, he just doesn't have it. That's why he's never going to get higher than slightly upper mid-card (not even full upper mid-card)
And he hasn't been demoted. He is pretty much where he always has been (he was US champ when people were still chanting Jason Statham). The only ways to get demoted from where he is are to take him off of tv altogether or to have him trading wins and losses with Fandango and Adam Rose at the bottom.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2015 19:25:11 GMT -5
Cesaro could pick up a tank. It writes itself.
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Post by LA Times on Sept 29, 2015 19:37:18 GMT -5
Honestly, I can see Cesaro being marketable if he got the right push. I can see a few people who can be marketable if WWE attempt to do it. The problem with Cesaro is the same that I see with other people right now. WWE has the habit of giving pushes and then depushes. Look at the Primetime Players as an example. A month ago, they were pushed as a top babyface tag team. This week, they were used to feed Harper and Strowman. Sure they put up a fight, but the purpose was to show Harper and Strowman's push. If WWE can attempt to keep pushing guys like Cesaro, sooner or later they will be marketable. I mean it took the Rock a year before he could become marketable. This. And Cesaro doesn't even get the crappy 50/50 booking the WWE gives most guys. They wonder why they have a lack of credible guys yet they book everyone to be on even ground (except Cena and Lesnar). Hell they have the perfect tool to help build stars (MITB) yet year after year the winner is booked weak as hell because heavens forbid someone gets over. The average fans like Cesaro. He gets good pops every time he comes out. If the WWE gave him some wins and a sustained push he'd get over. So hes not a great talker. Chris Benoit and RVD wern't great talkers yet both got over. Cesaro can do the same if the WWE backed him. Cesaro has gotten the 50/50 booking. Even if they try to push him as a main eventer now, is anybody going to buy it after he's been on multiple losing streaks including a stint as Randy Orton's personal jobber?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2015 19:55:03 GMT -5
Cesaro is no Cena, Rock or Brock?
I had no idea.
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Post by Calcifer Boheme on Sept 29, 2015 19:58:03 GMT -5
Nobody that talented is unmarketable.
He has a great look, cuts a very good face promo, and is flawless in the ring.
Saying he can't get pushed because he wouldn't be as big a draw as Rock or Cena is extreme. For one thing, that's a high bar to set, for another who knows how well he could draw if he was actually pushed?
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Post by gawd6sic6™ on Sept 29, 2015 20:04:37 GMT -5
Why is it, every post of yours reads like a robot typed it?
Your thoughts?
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Post by Joey Cush on Sept 29, 2015 20:15:44 GMT -5
Nobody that talented is unmarketable.He has a great look, cuts a very good face promo, and is flawless in the ring. Saying he can't get pushed because he wouldn't be as big a draw as Rock or Cena is extreme. For one thing, that's a high bar to set, for another who knows how well he could draw if he was actually pushed? 100 points for that statement. His talent AND strength literally writes itself. The audience likes what they see. He doesnt need to persuade anybody with promo's.
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Post by marino13 on Sept 29, 2015 21:51:04 GMT -5
I'd be ecstatic if they would just demote him all the way down to NXT. He'd be right at home there.
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Post by Dr. Mantis Toboggan MD on Sept 29, 2015 21:52:12 GMT -5
But at the same time Cesaro he doesn't have that drawing power that Cena, Rock, or Lesnar have in terms of buyrates now does he? He is a bigger draw in 2015 than "Please Retire" Big Show.
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Post by Dr. Mantis Toboggan MD on Sept 29, 2015 21:53:41 GMT -5
As for why he was demoted, it probably has to do with Vince being a stubborn douche, not wanting to be wrong about anything.
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Post by kazoosandstreamers on Sept 29, 2015 21:56:04 GMT -5
He's this era's Lance Storm.
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Post by cordless2016 on Sept 29, 2015 22:14:20 GMT -5
This. And Cesaro doesn't even get the crappy 50/50 booking the WWE gives most guys. They wonder why they have a lack of credible guys yet they book everyone to be on even ground (except Cena and Lesnar). Hell they have the perfect tool to help build stars (MITB) yet year after year the winner is booked weak as hell because heavens forbid someone gets over. The average fans like Cesaro. He gets good pops every time he comes out. If the WWE gave him some wins and a sustained push he'd get over. So hes not a great talker. Chris Benoit and RVD wern't great talkers yet both got over. Cesaro can do the same if the WWE backed him. Cesaro has gotten the 50/50 booking. Even if they try to push him as a main eventer now, is anybody going to buy it after he's been on multiple losing streaks including a stint as Randy Orton's personal jobber? This is the WWE. If Seth can still be seen as a credible world champ after being made out as a chump since WM then Cesaro would be believable as atleast an upper midcarder with a few meaningful wins.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2015 22:38:23 GMT -5
It's because he's a Swiss millennial.
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Post by Calcifer Boheme on Sept 30, 2015 11:11:35 GMT -5
As for why he was demoted, it probably has to do with Vince being a stubborn douche, not wanting to be wrong about anything. But Vince can spin it in his favor by saying he lit a fire under Cesaro with his comments on the Stone Cold podcast.
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Post by Dr. Mantis Toboggan MD on Sept 30, 2015 11:21:03 GMT -5
As for why he was demoted, it probably has to do with Vince being a stubborn douche, not wanting to be wrong about anything. But Vince can spin it in his favor by saying he lit a fire under Cesaro with his comments on the Stone Cold podcast. That would still require admitting he could be wrong or that the fans would like someone who he didn't pick.
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