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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2015 22:48:53 GMT -5
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Post by Nivro™ on Oct 4, 2015 22:50:04 GMT -5
I think if they were rereleasing other DMs or possibly just a basic standard Legend figure that was already done then it would hurt the line. However both re-releases are figures that the average person didnt get. One was a SDCC special & the other was a RSC special. While I have both already and wont buy either of these. Im ok with others buying them.
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Post by kgchampion on Oct 4, 2015 23:25:45 GMT -5
My one and only gripe about DM Austin is that they didn't trade the winged eagle belt for a second, red vest. I want him to come with silver vest, red vest, smoking skull belt, and big eagle belt. Maybe his SCSA hat from the All Stars pack, too. But regardless, I'm buying DM Austin, despite already having Legends Austin (and 3 basics). I'm really stoked for this replacement. Will it fill the void left by Hollywood? No. Do I wish that Mattel released at least some kind of Hollywood earlier? Yes. But they're not fortune tellers and deserve no blame.
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Post by Vamp55 on Oct 5, 2015 0:42:55 GMT -5
Rant coming - again Why do so many have so much sorrow for Mattel? "Poor Mattel, poor bill" - it hogans fault. Honestly guys. U don't need to suck up. Fact - (or at least as stated by Mattel at SDCC) Mattel pumped time, Money and resources into a figure that is very unlikely to ever see the light of day. Fact - they replaced it with a re-release of an "exclusive" they sold, and marketed as a limited edition. Which, for all entensive purposes is... Mattel is double dipping - from a situation they created. Fact - if Owen was signed (assuming he was the one) taker would not be rerelease. This up is totally on Mattel.... And I'm sorry, bill grabbing his ball and going home (I beieve this has helped cause this) shows just how much he doesn't value ur thoughts. IMO it would not have hurt MDT to come on here and post a little msg saying "hey guys, a big name fell through, we needed to make a decision... I have always thought SDCC taker was a great figure and would like more to get a chance at it - he is the 4th defining moments". But no we got a bullcrap response.... The first 6 months of this year was argument after argument about 4th DM. Mattel could prevented this, or at least stopped it sooner. All that said, SCSA - well what else could they do. Should they have got Hollywood out early. YEP, but we all have 20/20 hind sight. So they give us this. U can't do much with Austin. Best I can tell the vest is different. Makes it a repaint as far as I'm concerned... I don't think anyone ever really thought Mattel would not put the skull title out again... So in this instance I would say Mattel has done a good job, on a short turn around (and I have SCSA RSC) So I do think Mattel is trying to rite the ship with DM. Flair, hogan and Sting were awesome. razor is great as well. Taker is what it is, but if SCSA gets to retail, then it GAB Sting and who know beyond that. But Bossman in HOF.... Don't get me started.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2015 3:01:50 GMT -5
I for one appreciate the Austin DM as an elite collector in the UK its pretty damn difficult. I managed to get a HOF Austin so dont need the DM but I'll get it to support these rereleases Bill is doing. I'm all for it. **** the second hand market, it only benefits scalpers and scammers anyway. £100+ for a fig? Jog on.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2015 3:03:36 GMT -5
They EASILY could of did the Wrestlemania 12 HBK! That would of sold like crazy or IYH DX. Everyone had access to the RSC Austin so it's nobody's fault but your own for not getting it. What if you only started collecting late last year and don't fancy paying £80+ for it?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2015 3:06:13 GMT -5
Also, the rereleases all seem to have slight differences like Austins smile and red vest, paint apps and packaging on taker, Nash has a new scan and different attire etc... So the originals are still their own thing and retain some of the value.
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Post by dmc83 on Oct 5, 2015 3:39:58 GMT -5
Is your dish detergent exposing you to the ebola virus? We talk to one person who thinks it might be. More at 11.
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Post by D.B.K. on Oct 5, 2015 3:59:02 GMT -5
yeah they pretty much are IMO!
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Post by HTMN on Oct 5, 2015 4:03:55 GMT -5
I have a lot of the older exclusives and I am all for them been released. I don't buy for value, I buy them for what they are. They are cheap collectables. I think everyone should have the chance to own some of the older figures. If you are buying for value then you're collecting the wrong line.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2015 4:09:25 GMT -5
Yes it is. Kids aren't buying the DM line, they were heavily discounted here in the uk, and now smyths isn't stocking the Undertaker, so the biggest stockist of WWE product in the uk isn't carrying the line. It sucks, re-releases suck big time and should definitely not continue. If collectors want a figure that's been out already go to eBay. If you wanted it that badly you'd have bought it the first time around
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2015 4:19:52 GMT -5
Who knows? If it does kill the DM line so be it. There is no DM figure produced in its second incarnation that couldn't have been a regular elite so long as the rest of the figs in that series had skimpy accessories. Perhaps the cloth robe for Flair is an exception.
Nevertheless, with so many new avenues open, I don't think we'd be at a loss without this line. We got various store exclusives, the RSC exclusives, the new elite 2-pack, which is a legends focused line it appears. The HOF four pack. The HOF series. Not to mention the elite flashbacks.
If DM dies it won't be a huge loss.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2015 4:27:26 GMT -5
This up is totally on Mattel.... And I'm sorry, bill grabbing his ball and going home (I beieve this has helped cause this) shows just how much he doesn't value ur thoughts. IMO it would not have hurt MDT to come on here and post a little msg saying "hey guys, a big name fell through, we needed to make a decision... I have always thought SDCC taker was a great figure and would like more to get a chance at it - he is the 4th defining moments". But no we got a bullcrap response.... The first 6 months of this year was argument after argument about 4th DM. Mattel could prevented this, or at least stopped it sooner. All that said, SCSA - well what else could they do. Should they have got Hollywood out early. YEP, but we all have 20/20 hind sight. So they give us this. U can't do much with Austin. Best I can tell the vest is different. Makes it a repaint as far as I'm concerned... I don't think anyone ever really thought Mattel would not put the skull title out again... So in this instance I would say Mattel has done a good job, on a short turn around (and I have SCSA RSC) So I do think Mattel is trying to rite the ship with DM. Flair, hogan and Sting were awesome. razor is great as well. Taker is what it is, but if SCSA gets to retail, then it GAB Sting and who know beyond that. But Bossman in HOF.... Don't get me started. I disagree with the first bolded statement. They are somewhat culpable, but not "totally." The guy was under contract, and they had a plan to release him. You can't foresee these things. Should they learn from this and go ahead and pump out Stings and HBKs? I think so. But I'm more inclined to forgive them on Hogan. The second bolded part is completely unfair. With persistence we all seem to get what we ask for. Camo Sarge, red LOD, the list goes on and on. So long as it is possible Bill puts it out. If anything, give him credit for finding creative ways to get us legends figures. Someone over there has gone above and beyond to rectify the legends series debacle. They deserve tremendous credit for that. And that was based in large part to listening to our complaints. We agree on the third bolded point. They are learning from mistakes. What more can we ask? Don't get ME started on Boss Man in the hall.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2015 4:36:13 GMT -5
I hate the re-releases Stop taking valuable spots If you missed out, go hunt down the figure you want so badly My gut agrees with this, yet at the same time I'm still getting plenty of new figures for my own collection. If we were getting nothing but rereleases across the board I'd be pretty upset. But we get the elite 2 pack, with at least one new figure (Farooq), a debut Hunter Hearst Helmsley, WM 31 Undertaker, DX HBK, elite M$M, Jimmy Hart, Big John Studd, Bobby Heenan, et cetera, I'm a happy collector.
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Post by hellojoeivers on Oct 5, 2015 4:57:05 GMT -5
As others have said it's just been an unfortunate run of circumstances Both figures will sell I imagine
I know a lot of people aren't happy and want to moan about 'Well, we already had this' 'We already had that' I started collecting 18 months ago. I wasn't going to pay extortionate amounts for the Ringside Exclusive Austin for an Elite Austin and the title belts. I wasn't going to break the bank to get the SDCC Exclusive Undertaker. Now I don't have to...
As I've said before, I swear most of the people crying about re-issues are the people who are sad that their originals have just gone down in value...
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Post by hellojoeivers on Oct 5, 2015 4:58:43 GMT -5
With that said though there were a couple of re-issues shown at the weekend that were head scratching. Like did they really need to re-issue that Eddie figure?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2015 5:00:59 GMT -5
I'm thrilled with the Austin DM. I haven't got a Mattel version of him, and I don't have the RSC belts either. I wasn't collecting when the RSC was released, and I'm not paying £100+ for it. Those of you who have a problem with that, for whatever reason, go and eat your sour grapes somewhere else.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2015 5:09:55 GMT -5
But the original is also different still (smiling scan, red vest etc...) so I don't understand the hate.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2015 5:10:08 GMT -5
They EASILY could of did the Wrestlemania 12 HBK! That would of sold like crazy or IYH DX. Everyone had access to the RSC Austin so it's nobody's fault but your own for not getting it. What if you only started collecting late last year and don't fancy paying £80+ for it? Tough, or so that's the way it should be
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Post by Vamp55 on Oct 5, 2015 5:26:30 GMT -5
This up is totally on Mattel.... And I'm sorry, bill grabbing his ball and going home (I beieve this has helped cause this) shows just how much he doesn't value ur thoughts. IMO it would not have hurt MDT to come on here and post a little msg saying "hey guys, a big name fell through, we needed to make a decision... I have always thought SDCC taker was a great figure and would like more to get a chance at it - he is the 4th defining moments". But no we got a bullcrap response.... The first 6 months of this year was argument after argument about 4th DM. Mattel could prevented this, or at least stopped it sooner. All that said, SCSA - well what else could they do. Should they have got Hollywood out early. YEP, but we all have 20/20 hind sight. So they give us this. U can't do much with Austin. Best I can tell the vest is different. Makes it a repaint as far as I'm concerned... I don't think anyone ever really thought Mattel would not put the skull title out again... So in this instance I would say Mattel has done a good job, on a short turn around (and I have SCSA RSC) So I do think Mattel is trying to rite the ship with DM. Flair, hogan and Sting were awesome. razor is great as well. Taker is what it is, but if SCSA gets to retail, then it GAB Sting and who know beyond that. But Bossman in HOF.... Don't get me started. I disagree with the first bolded statement. They are somewhat culpable, but not "totally." The guy was under contract, and they had a plan to release him. You can't foresee these things. Should they learn from this and go ahead and pump out Stings and HBKs? I think so. But I'm more inclined to forgive them on Hogan. The second bolded part is completely unfair. With persistence we all seem to get what we ask for. Camo Sarge, red LOD, the list goes on and on. So long as it is possible Bill puts it out. If anything, give him credit for finding creative ways to get us legends figures. Someone over there has gone above and beyond to rectify the legends series debacle. They deserve tremendous credit for that. And that was based in large part to listening to our complaints. We agree on the third bolded point. They are learning from mistakes. What more can we ask? Don't get ME started on Boss Man in the hall. Im guessing my first statement has you a little confused. I was referencing Undertaker in Defining Moments. It is my understanding or at least from what Bill said, the reason he was put in the line was because Mattel thought someone was going to be under contract, and it didn't pan out. I assume it was Owen. They put time, effort and money into development a figure they never had the rights for... For this reason, I believe Mattel is totally to blame.
I also think it was handled poorly by MDT...
You are probably right, on the second statement. Mattel has listened and changed some of the things we (the board) suggested.
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