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Post by tg11 on Oct 6, 2015 7:12:13 GMT -5
After watching the WWE vs WCW Monday Night Wars on Youtube and seeing just how good how great that era of wrestling was with the WWE and WCW especially during the Attitude Era and both of those companies essentially taking it to each other could there ever really be another Monday Night Wars ever again in this era of wrestling? I doubt it because realistically there is no other wrestling organization that can compete with WWE right now I mean TNA is on a decline I mean they are essentially going out of business or they will within the next few years guaranteed and ROH well they are not at that level yet that they can even compete with WWE and then there's NJPW well they are in a whole other league and then there's Jarrett's GFW which isn't on par
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2015 7:14:52 GMT -5
I think maybe there could be in the future but some stuff would have to change in order to make it happen.
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Post by tg11 on Oct 6, 2015 7:16:38 GMT -5
And not to mention all top talent in WWE would have to jump over to the "other side" in order for it to ever really happen again
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2015 7:44:04 GMT -5
New Japan wouldn't be a viable competitor to WWE, at least right now. Most people who tune into Raw every Monday do it to be entertained, not for the wrestling, whereas any non-Japanese person watches NJPW solely for the wrestling. Not to mention the language barrier.
I've enjoyed TNA this year but too many stupid decisions have basically killed any chance they had.
GFW don't have enough big names, or a TV deal to be up there yet.
ROH would need more stars and a better budget to be a viable competitor.
In the near future? I doubt it, but who knows, in 10 years, GFW could be selling out MSG with their main event being Seth Rollins vs Adam Cole for the GFW title.
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Post by ππ΅πβοΈ on Oct 6, 2015 8:15:03 GMT -5
There are only 2 ways to start a new Monday Night War.
One way to have another Monday Night War would be for Smackdown to move to Monday Nights from 8 PM to 11 PM and become a live show. As ridiculous as that sounds, Smackdown is the only Professional Sports Wrestling Entertainment show today that can compete with Raw. Think about it. The WWE is World Wrestling Entertainment. The only entity that can stop the WWE is the WWE. Having a true brand split and pitting it against each other live on Monday Nights would truly reignite the Monday Night War. Each year they can draft Stars from NXT. They can always trade some Stars over at any time. The Raw and Smackdown roster should only cross paths on Pay Per View or Network Specials.
The other option would be for a company to create a partnership between TNA, GFW, ROH, NJPW, LU, and the entire NWA. Then they can take that partnership, shine it up real nice, turn that sumbitch sideways and stick it straight up Monday Nights at 8 PM to 11 PM. Can you imagine 3 hours of Professional Sports Wrestling from around the World!? Give each of the 6 organizations 30 minutes on Monday Nights, basically to promote their own individual shows, but feature only their respective top talents at that Monday Night time slot. I think that would change the way watch TV on Monday Nights. Raw would have to step up their game or deal with people changing the channel, only to see 3 straight hours of Main Event caliber Wrestling. Itβll be 3 straight hours of only the best each of the 6 companies have to offer. Itβll be 3 straight hours featuring only the Champions from each Federation. No fillers, no comedy routines, no nonsense, no βRawβ bull$#!+. Iβd call it βWrestling Alliance Revolutionβ!! Iβd call it βMonday Night WARβ!!
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Post by tg11 on Oct 6, 2015 8:36:12 GMT -5
GFW and ROH are probably the only options that I could see that could compete with WWE especially if they had a media mogul backing them like how WCW had Ted Turner a virtual billionaire backing them but if GFW and or ROH had someone like that in their back pocket and then got a great TV deal with any of the networks like how WCW had TBS back in the day then I think another Monday Night War could start and if it did it would be great for the sport of wrestling
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Post by marino13 on Oct 6, 2015 8:40:06 GMT -5
I don't believe so. TNA tried and that lasted about 3 weeks.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2015 8:41:01 GMT -5
When wrestling is popular again, maybe.
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Post by ~ Cymru ~ on Oct 6, 2015 8:50:50 GMT -5
No, I dont think there will be.
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Post by HTMN on Oct 6, 2015 9:00:57 GMT -5
Nope. Unless some crazy billionaire decides he wants to create a wrestling business.
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Post by punksnotdead on Oct 6, 2015 9:18:38 GMT -5
No because the market is too thin to divide the audience ever again on the same night. At this rate, WWE is at war with their own audience. No reason to be at war with another product. My biggest hope is that ROH will invest in better production and within 10 years they can consistently build up to 1.5-2.0 ratings. So essentially where TNA used to be a few years ago. Even with that, I think they'll stay away from each other, for obvious reasons.
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Post by LA Times on Oct 6, 2015 9:33:35 GMT -5
No, the only way it would happen is if the rival wrestling promotion is owned by a media corporation like FOX or Viacom, but they are not even interested in having wrestling on their networks let alone owning a promotion to compete with the WWE.
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Oct 6, 2015 9:33:46 GMT -5
It can't happen these days
A) No other company has the money, or exposure that WWE has.
B) There isn't enough legit big name talent to get another company over in the main stream.
The only reason there was a Monday Night War was because WCW was utilizing former top WWF Superstars (Hogan, Hall, Nash, Luger, Flair, Macho Man) while guys like Sting were the home grown Franchise players.
For another Monday Night War or wrestling war to happen, you would probably need the top 5 WWE guys to jump ship and take the interests of the WWE fans with them. So like Cena, Orton, Brock Lesnar, Undertaker, and Seth Rollins would all have to leave WWE.....and maybe even The Rock for the main stream appeal.
Because let's face it, internet banter and good talent doesn't win you anything. Guys like James Storm, Bobby Roode, AJ Styles....they are as talented as anybody in American wrestling when they were in TNA, but they just aren't well known enogh names in America to make a difference in a ratings war.
The reason why WCW was successful was because the fans heard "Razor and Diesel" showed up on another show and went to check it out and at the time WCW had a better product. It seemed real, it wasn't cartoonish like the gimmicks that WWF had at the time. WCW was never going to overtaker WWF if it hadn't been for the nWo and the top names that WCW got from WWF.
ROH is great....but Jay Lethal, Rodrick Strong, the Briscoes.....you aren't going to grab the main stream attention unless you create a splash by acquiring a big name. Same thing with NJPW. There have great shows. Nakamura and Okada are two of the best in the world....but they don't have main stream global attention.
So no, I don't think it's ever going to happen, because the only way you're going to get a big name from WWE is if they are fired from WWE, or if they pony up the money to actually sign them, and I don't think TNA, ROH, NJPW or anybody else can afford to pay guys like Cena, Rock, Rollins, Lesnar and the rest of the top guys what they are currently making in WWE. There is no incentive to "jump ship" anymore. Back in the day, guys jumped ship for more money and guaranteed money...there is no more incentive to do that.
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Post by Mr. PerpetuaLynch Motion on Oct 6, 2015 9:48:34 GMT -5
I doubt it. Pro wrestling as a whole jumped the shark during the Monday Night Wars. I don't think there exists a culture anymore that would be capable of cultivating another one. Though the old saying goes never say never, I just can not fathom how another Monday Night Wars could possibly come about. All I know is I'm going to enjoy the good wrestling that does exist out there.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2015 9:51:49 GMT -5
Nah.
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Post by tg11 on Oct 6, 2015 9:58:46 GMT -5
Well if big names jumped ship like Cena & Orton 2 of perhaps the biggest names in WWE's history well the faces of the Ruthless Aggression Era if they showed up on someone else's show out of nowhere then could you imagine the shockwaves it would send
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Post by weaseltv on Oct 6, 2015 10:23:10 GMT -5
lets see... a scenario that this could happen...
Daniel Bryan jumps ship because WWE doesn't clear him... say he goes to ROH as they may be closer to competing that GFW.
WWE has the youth they are pushing in Owens, Rollins etc...
Brie gets "punished" when Bryan leaves prompting her to leave. Nikki leaves when Brie leaves as the Divas division is already going to Charlotte and the younger talent. Both show up in ROH.
the thing that would set it all in motion.. like Hogan going to WCW... John Cena leaving would bring the same feeling. Cena showing up in ROH and building a faction with Bryan and the Bella's "taking over" ROH.
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Post by TheBadGuyChico on Oct 6, 2015 10:56:34 GMT -5
Not unless a Mark Cuban type wants to get involved in pro wrestling. ROH and NJPW have no mainstream appeal whatsoever, which is why the WWE is on the decline. Too many prototypical indy wrestlers out there today, wrestling has bigger problems than just having another billionaire in the business.
Wrestling is failing to even cultivate any new stars, a problem which won't be cured by pushing your favorite NXT guy. There isn't a John Cena, Hulk Hogan, or Steve Austin on the horizon, nor is there a Piper, Flair, or Edge.
The most charisma i see on the show right now (from a guy under 30) is coming from Big E Langston. Maybe he can really be a superstar, but until wrestling has more bonafide stars with mainstream appeal, wrestling will continue to slowly die.
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Post by ππ΅πβοΈ on Oct 6, 2015 11:52:40 GMT -5
lets see... a scenario that this could happen... Daniel Bryan jumps ship because WWE doesn't clear him... say he goes to ROH as they may be closer to competing that GFW. WWE has the youth they are pushing in Owens, Rollins etc... Brie gets "punished" when Bryan leaves prompting her to leave. Nikki leaves when Brie leaves as the Divas division is already going to Charlotte and the younger talent. Both show up in ROH. the thing that would set it all in motion.. like Hogan going to WCW... John Cena leaving would bring the same feeling. Cena showing up in ROH and building a faction with Bryan and the Bella's "taking over" ROH. I love it!! John Cena, Daniel Bryan, Nikki and Brie, the Bella Twins would make a great Stable in the WWE. John Cena, Bryan Danielson, and Nicole and Brianna, the Garcia - Colace Twins would make a great Stable in any promotion. Their Stable name should be Bell-2-Bell, in reference to the βBella Twinsβ name, and the fact that Cena and Bryan can go from opening match to Main Event.
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Post by LA Times on Oct 6, 2015 12:11:55 GMT -5
lets see... a scenario that this could happen... Daniel Bryan jumps ship because WWE doesn't clear him... say he goes to ROH as they may be closer to competing that GFW. WWE has the youth they are pushing in Owens, Rollins etc... Brie gets "punished" when Bryan leaves prompting her to leave. Nikki leaves when Brie leaves as the Divas division is already going to Charlotte and the younger talent. Both show up in ROH. the thing that would set it all in motion.. like Hogan going to WCW... John Cena leaving would bring the same feeling. Cena showing up in ROH and building a faction with Bryan and the Bella's "taking over" ROH. I love it!! John Cena, Daniel Bryan, Nikki and Brie, the Bella Twins would make a great Stable in the WWE. John Cena, Bryan Danielson, and Nicole and Brianna, the Garcia - Colace Twins would make a great Stable in any promotion. Their Stable name should be Bell-2-Bell, in reference to the βBella Twinsβ name, and the fact that Cena and Bryan can go from opening match to Main Event. John Cena, Daniel Bryan, the Bella Twins, John Laurinitis (who is marrying Mama Bella) and Road Warrior Animal would be the #2 family in wrestling after the McMahons.
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