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Post by bad guy™ on Apr 16, 2016 14:53:16 GMT -5
No Girardi and added Malkin. No longer can have any sustained pressure in the Rangers zone, which is more because of lack of Girardi, because they can actually play an effective neutral zone game without him. Poor Zatkoff I told you the second Malkin came back everything would collapse in on itself. Just wait and see.
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Post by Cameron Stone on Apr 16, 2016 15:21:10 GMT -5
No Girardi and added Malkin. No longer can have any sustained pressure in the Rangers zone, which is more because of lack of Girardi, because they can actually play an effective neutral zone game without him. Poor Zatkoff I told you the second Malkin came back everything would collapse in on itself. Just wait and see. Don't think it's as much Malkin as it is Girardi leaving. Also despite the score we got outplayed in game 1. And Kessel! Wooo!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2016 16:01:46 GMT -5
While I agree with the Brassard call standing, how was Tarasenko's goal reversed last night!? Same damn play, same lack of DISTINCT evidence... different outcome. Whatever.
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Post by bad guy™ on Apr 16, 2016 16:18:56 GMT -5
I told you the second Malkin came back everything would collapse in on itself. Just wait and see. Don't think it's as much Malkin as it is Girardi leaving. Also despite the score we got outplayed in game 1. And Kessel! Wooo! Nah. The Pens are straight mediocre at best when Sid and Malkin both play. Have been since 2010. Give me a whole season where neither miss more than a couple of games for rest and they sneak into the playoffs because someone has to down at the bottom. But missing out like the Bruins did isn't impossible either.
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Post by Nick the Quick on Apr 16, 2016 16:31:50 GMT -5
Ugh
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Post by bad guy™ on Apr 16, 2016 16:42:42 GMT -5
General consensus amongst Pens fans. Malkin picked one hell of a terrible time to heal up. Now they're going to rush Flower back into net not wanting to acknowledge Zatkoff really isn't the problem but rather Malkin, aaaand that'll end the season because Flower can't play for a reason. He's almost nervous when the reporters hound him and he has to say his head isn't still fuzzy. Just...ugh.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2016 16:54:32 GMT -5
How can you blame Malkin? Other than the coincidence that with him being gone, they were ridiculously hot.
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Post by bad guy™ on Apr 16, 2016 17:02:19 GMT -5
How can you blame Malkin? Other than the coincidence that with him being gone, they were ridiculously hot. Malkin or Sid. I said the same thing the season Sid missed, that they were better with just one. The Pens have just flat out statistically not been better than mediocre when Geno AND Sid play together. It's been like this for seven years now. Without one, the other turns into a force of nature. But when they're both there, they sort of sit on their heels and ask which one is supposed to play good, as if they're incapable of both playing well at the same time. And when they're both there their numbers are down because they both play a pass first style. Which is fine, even if they're elite and passing to mid level players...still NHL players and can shoot the puck. And you think that's ok. Until you look at their numbers when one is out and see the output is borderline doubled. Look at Sid since Geno went down. ing ridiculous stats. Now he's apt to go colder than the ice with Geno back. It just doesn't work. I don't know if it's one of those "too many chiefs" things or what but if you've watched as many Pens games as I have and seen the team with both, and without one or the other for extended time you understand.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2016 17:05:07 GMT -5
I've seen a decent amount and get what you mean. I just feel neither can be blamed, but rather an odd coincidence.
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Post by bad guy™ on Apr 16, 2016 17:09:28 GMT -5
I've seen a decent amount and get what you mean. I just feel neither can be blamed, but rather an odd coincidence. Well at what point does seven seasons go from "odd coincidence" to "yeah, probably what's happening" eh? Because are Crosby and Malkin two of the best players in the NHL? Without a doubt. Therefore shouldn't the Pens look better than borderline ass when they're together?
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Post by Cameron Stone on Apr 16, 2016 18:26:06 GMT -5
The Penguins have an issue with over cycling the puck looking for that perfect shot, which is worse with Malkin and Crosby on together. They try for nothing but cross crease one timers in the slot, which the dangers had no issues blocking on the power play. Kessel got his PP goal by driving to the net and getting right in there. Pens try to be too fancy. In the playoffs you need so.e garbage lunch pail goals, and Kessel and Hornqvist are the only two who will play that way. Kunitz used to but he's too old to be effective at it now.
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Post by HHH316 on Apr 16, 2016 22:53:29 GMT -5
After Mason gave up that abomination of a goal, I don't know if I feel worse for him or Flyers fans.
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Post by Adam on Apr 17, 2016 14:27:50 GMT -5
After Mason gave up that abomination of a goal, I don't know if I feel worse for him or Flyers fans. I've felt bad for Mason since he put on a flyers sweater. That's because I knew from the start he'd be ostracized by a good chunk of the fans no matter how much he stood on his head to keep them in games they had no business winning. No matter how unproductive the offense is, no matter how slow other teams make the defense look, it all comes down to the goalie. It could be because aside from Bernie Parent and Ron Hextall it's been a constant goalie carousel.
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Post by Cameron Stone on Apr 17, 2016 16:05:48 GMT -5
Flyers wouldn't even been in the playoffs without Mason.
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Post by Adam on Apr 17, 2016 17:16:12 GMT -5
Flyers wouldn't even been in the playoffs without Mason. Eh...I think they wouldn't be in the playoffs without Shayne Gostisbehere, mainly because his arrival coincided with the season turnaround. @twistedone22388, you can speak to this too. But yeah, Mason is definitely an under appreciated piece for sure.
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Post by Cameron Stone on Apr 17, 2016 20:48:12 GMT -5
Wouldn't make it without Ghost for sure. But Mason has stabilized your goaltending. Gives you a chance to win every night
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Post by Adam on Apr 18, 2016 7:43:18 GMT -5
Wouldn't make it without Ghost for sure. But Mason has stabilized your goaltending. Gives you a chance to win every night No disagreements on that one.
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Post by Mark Martin on Apr 18, 2016 22:45:19 GMT -5
The State of Hockey ain't going out like no punk!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2016 0:45:34 GMT -5
Hopefully Detroit can play like they did sunday night, that game was insane to be at. The amosphere was insane and im pretty sure at least fifteen octopi hit the ice throughout the night.
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Post by bad guy™ on Apr 19, 2016 20:12:20 GMT -5
The D isn't hot garbage and Murray doesn't look like he has scrambled brains.
Success.
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