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Post by Duck Holliday on Oct 12, 2015 15:50:37 GMT -5
slappy and I were talking, and I think we both wanted to spotlight Sarge, so I figured this would be a good start. I feel like in the grand scheme of wrestling history he gets overlooked a little... especially considering he is one of a somewhat small group of guys that transcended wrestling into greater pop-culture (ie Hogan, Piper, Savage, Flair, Hart, DX, Rock, Austin, ecct). He was a big player throughout the 80's into the 90's, held multiple championships (including the big one), and is a Hall of Famer. He falls comfortably into my top 20 favorites of all time and due to his importance to his era and feuds with the very top babyfaces of the time (truly elevating them) he makes an argument to be considered one of the greatest of all time. So share your favorite moments, matches, promos, stories, whatever.. For me the first match that comes to mind is the championship match with Warrior. Even as a kid I didn't care much for Warrior (which was probably mostly due to friends loving him and I liked to be contrary), so Slaughter getting the title from him was really exciting, and Savage was my guy, too.. so it all just worked for me. (although WM7 vs Hogan was really intense... Hogan felt sorta pushed into a tweener role.. at least when rewatching the match years later)
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Post by slappy on Oct 12, 2015 16:01:56 GMT -5
His match vs Hogan at WrestleMania 7 is one of my favorite matches of all time.
I just watched this match. Pretty good.
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Post by T R W on Oct 12, 2015 16:05:31 GMT -5
I was a big fan of Sarge before he came back to the WWF for that last run. He seemed to definitely be on the downswing of his career. I was not a fan of Warrior, so I was glad he gave up the title, but at the time I thought the Iraqi turncoat story was groan inducing cheap heat at its worst. But it did get over and got them in the news, so it did what they wanted. But I can't say I really enjoyed that run. It was literally a re-telling of Hogan's first title win, where they dumped the title from a babyface to a foreigner as a transitional champ to pave the way for Hulkamania to save us.
I really was a fan of the early to mid eighties Slaughter, which most people aren't really all that familiar with. He had a few great matches with Flair that I remember watching.
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Post by AmericanMadeLesGold on Oct 12, 2015 16:10:50 GMT -5
Love Sarge.
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Post by JC Motors on Oct 12, 2015 16:15:26 GMT -5
He had an obscure one off LP in the 1980s
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Post by T R W on Oct 12, 2015 16:21:25 GMT -5
His feuds with Backlund were really fun as that was around the time I first started watching wrestling. Slaughter was really over but the tide of Hulkamania made him kind of redundant.
His AWA stuff with Zbyszko, Zukhov, Debeers and the Road Warriors was all very enjoyable, and really AWA Slaughter is what I think of when I think about him.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Oct 12, 2015 17:07:30 GMT -5
The Steel Cage match he had with Don Kernodle vs. Steamboat & Youngblood for the Tag Titles in 1983 before he left to go back to the WWF was pretty awesome. I finally got to see that match a few years ago. Someone had the entire card recorded with commentary and it was pretty neat to see a big event like that before Starrcade or Wrestlemania.
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Post by Grumpyoldman on Oct 12, 2015 17:07:54 GMT -5
I remember this like it was yesterday.
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Post by PJ on Oct 12, 2015 18:16:45 GMT -5
I remember back around 1984/85 I was working at Burger King in West Caldwell NJ (it was located next to Konnor's Chevrolet on Bloomfield Ave. I think it is a Taco Bell now. at least it was last time I was down there.) Anyway one day me an a fellow employee was getting ready to take the trash to the dumpster when we notice a camouflage Cadillac limo pull into the parking lot. So we went over to it and saw Sarge sitting in the back. We didn't get to talk to him because our manager told us to get back to work. The driver told us he was in Pine Brook visiting a wrestling school that day.
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Post by Duck Holliday on Oct 12, 2015 20:00:59 GMT -5
I was a big fan of Sarge before he came back to the WWF for that last run. He seemed to definitely be on the downswing of his career. I was not a fan of Warrior, so I was glad he gave up the title, but at the time I thought the Iraqi turncoat story was groan inducing cheap heat at its worst. But it did get over and got them in the news, so it did what they wanted. But I can't say I really enjoyed that run. It was literally a re-telling of Hogan's first title win, where they dumped the title from a babyface to a foreigner as a transitional champ to pave the way for Hulkamania to save us. I really was a fan of the early to mid eighties Slaughter, which most people aren't really all that familiar with. He had a few great matches with Flair that I remember watching.That era was a little before my time, but over the years I've seen some of the work from that period and I've enjoyed most of what I've seen... Some day, I'd like to go back and fill in some of the AWA related breaks in my knowledge. Oh and the Iraqi stuff was very cheap.. even looking back on it, its one of those things where you tell yourself "eh, I get it" but it doesn't totally sit right. I remember back around 1984/85 I was working at Burger King in West Caldwell NJ (it was located next to Konnor's Chevrolet on Bloomfield Ave. I think it is a Taco Bell now. at least it was last time I was down there.) Anyway one day me an a fellow employee was getting ready to take the trash to the dumpster when we notice a camouflage Cadillac limo pull into the parking lot. So we went over to it and saw Sarge sitting in the back. We didn't get to talk to him because our manager told us to get back to work. The driver told us he was in Pine Brook visiting a wrestling school that day. Thats a pretty awesome... found this:
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Oct 13, 2015 0:39:59 GMT -5
Years ago I had the AWA video tape Sgt. Slaughter and Co. and it had this sweet video segment on it, and even then at the age of like 9 years old I found it to be cheesy. But it's enjoyable to, so enjoy!
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Post by hbkjason on Oct 13, 2015 4:20:57 GMT -5
I ing hated him as a kid and I mean hated him. I cannot think of another wrestler who I have hated more....... but when I say hate I mean that in the way you should hate a wrestler. He did his job so damn well that as a 9/10 year old kid I was ready to jump through my TV screen and kick his ass when he took the title from the Ultimate Warrior. He really was such a great heel that when his whole Iraq sympathiser thing was done I just could not accept him in any way.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2015 8:47:52 GMT -5
How terrible is it that I thought the "Maggots" in the title began with an "F"?
Anyway, I love Ol' Slaughter and my favorite match of his was the boot camp match he had with Patterson. That was hardcore before hardcore was hardcore.
And my other favorite memory was when he and someone else who I can't remember teamed up and fought the Dudleyz on Heat and Sarge just couldn't get D'von up with that vertical suplex. He pulled it off but I'm sure he burst several hemorrhoids doing so.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2015 10:30:24 GMT -5
I love the Sarge. It isn't that long since we have had an appreciation thread about him actually!!
I was horrified to see him as a heel when I was 10/11 when he returned to WWF.....but when I got his Hasbro WWF figure he was a face 100%.
Loved him in GI Joe too....he remains one of my favourite characters there.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2015 10:40:45 GMT -5
I love Slaughter as a member of GI Joe more than anything else.
It was pretty confusing for me when he joined up with Saddam Husein to fight Hogan. That was back when wrestling was still real and I didn't see how such an awesome Joe could ever be a bad guy. He was probably brainwashed by Dr. Mindbender or something.
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Post by Duck Holliday on Oct 13, 2015 23:55:24 GMT -5
Years ago I had the AWA video tape Sgt. Slaughter and Co. and it had this sweet video segment on it, and even then at the age of like 9 years old I found it to be cheesy. But it's enjoyable to, so enjoy! Yeah, thats mega cheesy, but a lot of fun.
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Post by PJ on Oct 14, 2015 10:53:57 GMT -5
I remember this like it was yesterday. As do I. Also I remember a kid in school was slapping the cobra clutch on people in art class and the locker room trying to create his own challenge. It ended real quick when our gym teacher walked in on it. lol
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2015 11:55:30 GMT -5
Iraqi Sarge is my favorite Sarge.
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Post by mikey1974 on Oct 14, 2015 13:00:06 GMT -5
I started watching wrestling and the WWF in late 1983, so I started near the end of Slaughter's first run in New York, so I wasn't exposed that much to him beyond him being a ptriot and the epic feud with The Iron Sheik.
I mostly knew of him in the 80's from G.I. Joe , but did know he used to be a wrestler ( withlittle to no cable access at the time, the concept of the NWA much less the AWA was foreign to me).
I have to say, in retrospect I loved his heel Iraqi turn - in that I hated his guts at the time! so it was extremely successful in doing what it was meant to do. Plus, Sarge can always say he was a former World Champion.
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Post by RV F'N D on Oct 14, 2015 18:20:06 GMT -5
I don't think Serpentor would have ever gotten over if it hadn't been for Sarge's DNA...
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