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Post by TheNinthCloud on Oct 22, 2015 10:47:41 GMT -5
Sad, but most likely true. I agree with you, but even if he's the next Ziggler I'd still call that a decent career. As long as they don't totally just botch the booking of his midcard title wins (here's hoping he gets a US title run) I think he'll have a great career. Ziggler's had an amazing career. World title wins, MITB wins, involved in several feuds that are either a focal point/major part of the show, has tons of merchandise and is basically the face of the Midcard. And I'm far from a Ziggler fan, but he's had a good career. Tyler having that kind of career would be fine with me haha Ziggler was kind of a bad analogy. I just want the guy to be put in reasonable, thought out storlylines. No reason this guy should be on some sort of pre-show.
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goalie33
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Post by goalie33 on Oct 22, 2015 11:43:38 GMT -5
"I don't like this guy with the model gimmick. Give me the Samoan guy or the Demon. There are no Samoans or Demons on the main roster." Oh right, Samao Joe lives off his genetic heritage as a gimmick. Somehow you are completely missing his actual gimmick of being a badass MMA style wrestler who by the way has had main event quality matches with some has beens by the name of Kurt Angle (in TNA) and CM Punk (in ROH) as well as many others. Nope, he wouldn't be entertaining on the main roster. He's just another Samoan SWAT team/Rikishi/Umaga wannabe. Oh right, Finn Balor releases his "inner demon" by painting himself for PPV appearances because he wants people to mistake him for the Demon Kane, who is a foot taller, 100 lbs heavier, and wears a mask when he isn't providing comedy relief in a suit and tie ripping off the TNA Joseph Parks/Abyss storyline. I usually accept or at least ignore replies like this, but instead of just stating an opposing opinion and agreeing to disagree, you were a smartass who used quotes to (badly) paraphrase my post into something stupid...very stupid. Don't. Just don't. Play nice or don't play at all. Thank you for illustrating my point. You dismissed Breeze based on his gimmick, when he consistently turns in some of the best in-ring performances NXT has to offer. His matches are certainly better than Joe's NXT matches, for one (yes, I know Joe used to be incredible. He is considerably less so today.) Focusing on a gimmick does a great disservice to the worker, as would one treating Joe as any other Samoan or Balor as any other "possessed" character. You don't like the gimmick, fine. But don't dismiss his work.
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Post by King Richius on Oct 22, 2015 11:53:04 GMT -5
Oh right, Samao Joe lives off his genetic heritage as a gimmick. Somehow you are completely missing his actual gimmick of being a badass MMA style wrestler who by the way has had main event quality matches with some has beens by the name of Kurt Angle (in TNA) and CM Punk (in ROH) as well as many others. Nope, he wouldn't be entertaining on the main roster. He's just another Samoan SWAT team/Rikishi/Umaga wannabe. Oh right, Finn Balor releases his "inner demon" by painting himself for PPV appearances because he wants people to mistake him for the Demon Kane, who is a foot taller, 100 lbs heavier, and wears a mask when he isn't providing comedy relief in a suit and tie ripping off the TNA Joseph Parks/Abyss storyline. I usually accept or at least ignore replies like this, but instead of just stating an opposing opinion and agreeing to disagree, you were a smartass who used quotes to (badly) paraphrase my post into something stupid...very stupid. Don't. Just don't. Play nice or don't play at all. Thank you for illustrating my point. You dismissed Breeze based on his gimmick, when he consistently turns in some of the best in-ring performances NXT has to offer. His matches are certainly better than Joe's NXT matches, for one (yes, I know Joe used to be incredible. He is considerably less so today.) Focusing on a gimmick does a great disservice to the worker, as would one treating Joe as any other Samoan or Balor as any other "possessed" character. You don't like the gimmick, fine. But don't dismiss his work. I didn't dismiss his work...I simply said he doesn't do anything for me as a fan and viewer. There is a difference. You took 1+1 and came up with 3.
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Post by Controversial Maverick PUNK on Oct 22, 2015 12:56:56 GMT -5
I still just don't see anything in this guy. Never have. I just can't see him working out too well on the main roster. He could get released tomorrow and I wouldn't care. He's boring as .
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Post by HVMMONS on Oct 22, 2015 13:03:25 GMT -5
I still just don't see anything in this guy. Never have. I just can't see him working out too well on the main roster. He could get released tomorrow and I wouldn't care. He's boring as .
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