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Post by marino13 on Nov 1, 2015 13:21:15 GMT -5
3. That Triple H is in charge over Vince
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Post by Ember's Flame on Nov 1, 2015 13:24:43 GMT -5
I agree with you on all of that. Especially Diva booking. Creative legitimately needs to take a look at Foley's FB Rants, retire the word "Diva" and give birth to the WWE Women's World Championship.
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Post by 0,Y on Nov 1, 2015 13:25:04 GMT -5
Fans.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Nov 1, 2015 13:25:10 GMT -5
John Cena is the reason NXT guys don't get pushed? All the NXT people who go to the main roster. Because they're so focused on Cena and Kane and Reigns that they don't really care about NXT talents on the main roster. No wonder Emma and Cameron went back down there
So it's not Cena's fault, but the fault of creative. Also, Emma went down because her gimmick didn't get over and Cameron went down because she was horrible and knew it.
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Post by attitudesback on Nov 1, 2015 13:35:27 GMT -5
Fans thinking guys like Cesaro or Kevin Owens should be main event guys. Some of the greatest of all time were not main event guys. It's ok to not be in the main event. These guys are good, but not show runners.
Fans thinking NXT is some godsend. Every episode I've ever seen is just squash matches and then you get a semi-decent Special with one really good match every couple of months.
The lack of charisma in the WWE roster.
The fact WWE constantly push the Attitude Era as being the best of all time instead of trying to do better.
People who think that wrestling > storytelling. The story sells the fight. If you can't talk, or sell the fight, I don't care.
Sasha Banks being ignored because of Ric Flair-lite. Hell, even Jay Lethal was a better Ric Flair.
Stars not protecting kayfabe and getting away with it. The Undertaker, Lesnar and even Rusev/Lana (Kevin Owens too) seem to fully grasp the storytelling and if I met these people, I'd think they were the character. They're that damn good at projecting the story. Yet Bayley and Sasha Banks cry because they've put on another good match. Sasha hates Bayley and tries to break her arm, yet cries and is all happy with Bayley after she pins her? Makes no sense.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2015 13:35:57 GMT -5
3. That Triple H is in charge over Vince I meant isn't thanks for telling me
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2015 13:37:52 GMT -5
All the NXT people who go to the main roster. Because they're so focused on Cena and Kane and Reigns that they don't really care about NXT talents on the main roster. No wonder Emma and Cameron went back down there
So it's not Cena's fault, but the fault of creative. Also, Emma went down because her gimmick didn't get over and Cameron went down because she was horrible and knew it. Yeah, but they both requested to go back down to NXT. Emma would of probably been sent back down if she didn't ask anyway. And Cameron probably still wouldn't be here.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Nov 1, 2015 13:43:39 GMT -5
So it's not Cena's fault, but the fault of creative. Also, Emma went down because her gimmick didn't get over and Cameron went down because she was horrible and knew it. Yeah, but they both requested to go back down to NXT. Emma would of probably been sent back down if she didn't ask anyway. And Cameron probably still wouldn't be here. Umm, okay. None of that is still relevant to NXT people supposedly not getting pushed or John Cena.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2015 13:50:53 GMT -5
Not really in order but I am annoyed by:
The commentary John Cena The .500 booking of most everyone other than Cena
Non-WWE I agree with Kev and I'll say The Young Bucks are a stain on the bed sheets of professional wrestling.
Aj Styles' haircut also annoys me
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2015 13:51:52 GMT -5
Fans thinking guys like Cesaro or Kevin Owens should be main event guys. Some of the greatest of all time were not main event guys. It's ok to not be in the main event. These guys are good, but not show runners. Fans thinking NXT is some godsend. Every episode I've ever seen is just squash matches and then you get a semi-decent Special with one really good match every couple of months. The lack of charisma in the WWE roster. The fact WWE constantly push the Attitude Era as being the best of all time instead of trying to do better. People who think that wrestling > storytelling. The story sells the fight. If you can't talk, or sell the fight, I don't care. Sasha Banks being ignored because of Ric Flair-lite. Hell, even Jay Lethal was a better Ric Flair. Stars not protecting kayfabe and getting away with it. The Undertaker, Lesnar and even Rusev/Lana (Kevin Owens too) seem to fully grasp the storytelling and if I met these people, I'd think they were the character. They're that damn good at projecting the story. Yet Bayley and Sasha Banks cry because they've put on another good match. Sasha hates Bayley and tries to break her arm, yet cries and is all happy with Bayley after she pins her? Makes no sense. I understand your point, I really do and even agree somewhat. I'm not defending them just because it's Bayley and Sasha but some things are above kayfabe. Those two matches were such a big deal and historical for women's wrestling that it went above storylines and kayfabe. WWE is all about "emotion and storytelling" and in the current age of social media I feel like those girls breaking kayfabe after the match told a much better story and had a lot more emotion than anything they could've came up with from a kayfabe standpoint.
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Post by msqsk1 on Nov 1, 2015 13:55:08 GMT -5
The Internet..
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Post by attitudesback on Nov 1, 2015 13:56:21 GMT -5
Fans thinking guys like Cesaro or Kevin Owens should be main event guys. Some of the greatest of all time were not main event guys. It's ok to not be in the main event. These guys are good, but not show runners. Fans thinking NXT is some godsend. Every episode I've ever seen is just squash matches and then you get a semi-decent Special with one really good match every couple of months. The lack of charisma in the WWE roster. The fact WWE constantly push the Attitude Era as being the best of all time instead of trying to do better. People who think that wrestling > storytelling. The story sells the fight. If you can't talk, or sell the fight, I don't care. Sasha Banks being ignored because of Ric Flair-lite. Hell, even Jay Lethal was a better Ric Flair. Stars not protecting kayfabe and getting away with it. The Undertaker, Lesnar and even Rusev/Lana (Kevin Owens too) seem to fully grasp the storytelling and if I met these people, I'd think they were the character. They're that damn good at projecting the story. Yet Bayley and Sasha Banks cry because they've put on another good match. Sasha hates Bayley and tries to break her arm, yet cries and is all happy with Bayley after she pins her? Makes no sense. I understand your point, I really do and even agree somewhat. I'm not defending them just because it's Bayley and Sasha but some things are above kayfabe. Those two matches were such a big deal and historical for women's wrestling that it went above storylines and kayfabe. WWE is all about "emotion and storytelling" and in the current age of social media I feel like those girls breaking kayfabe after the match told a much better story and had a lot more emotion than anything they could've came up with from a kayfabe standpoint. Maybe, I definitely understand your point but Banks' credibility as a "I don't care" heel just goes after something like that happens. It was fine for the moment, just didn't fit the characters or story at all. Especially considering there was another match and Banks was still trying to sell the heel persona.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2015 14:04:31 GMT -5
My top five annoyances about the wrestling business.
1. Kayfabe is dead. Growing up in a different era wrestlers played the part. If so and so was heel you would never ever see him riding with generic face number 1 after the show. They would not be tweeting videos to each other and there would be no communication outside of the business. Yeah they may have hung out in the back or something but we never saw that and shouldn't.
2. Dirt sheets/Websites This is easily one of the worst things about the current product. For one the majority of the time these websites are absolutely dead wrong and are just trying to get clicks. For two it is all copied and pasted from another site to begin with and all comes from a guy who is by far a stain on the business(meltzer) and is also ridiculously wrong about generally everything unless it is glaringly obvious. For three fans read them and get their hopes up for something they read and tend to even spoil major storylines for themselves and still complain about how nothing is ever new.. Don't read these things and stuff could surprise you.
3. Absolute hate for no reason. Wrestlers while some better than others all go to work the same way. They all lace up their boots generally the same way. What on earth gives us the right to follow them on twitter or any social media site or even heckle them in public or constantly bash them. Does Baron Corbin or Eva Marie for example come to our job and heckle us if we aren't performing the way they think that we should??? Absolutely not. Remember, treating others like crap just because they may not be doing what we think they should be doing is stupid, and we would not like it if they did the same to us.
4. Commentary Is there really any need to constantly plug the internet during matches. Or talk off topic about anything else. What exactly is the point of commentary if they are not going to discuss the match we are watching.
5. Entitlement. The reason I write this is because wrestling is supposed to be a story that we invest in week by week. People tend to think that they should constantly get their way when it comes to wrestling, and if so and so doesn't win then oh my we have to riot. That is by far the most ridiculous thing I have ever seen in the wrestling business. If so and so won every single match and never had a challenge then why would any of us watch. The reason to watch is because we expect to be entertained and kept on the edge of our seats. If we constantly get our way we will grow tired of it.
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Post by LA Times on Nov 1, 2015 14:08:31 GMT -5
1) Fans and people like Vince Russo still living in Attitude Era 1999 2) The Authority doing the exact same thing in 2013-15 that they were doing in 2000 3) WWE relying on legends and part-timers for WrestleMania instead of using the show to create new stars 4) NXT names that seems created by somebody ripping up a copy of Entertainment Weekly and picking 2 pieces off the floor 5) The cast of Total Divas.
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Post by gawd6sic6™ on Nov 1, 2015 14:09:05 GMT -5
Inconsistencies in rules/matches.
Twin magic, works half the time, nothing gets said. Then so Nikki doesn't lose the title before the record is set. The decision gets reversed.
When the ref pulls someone off of someone before a 5 count. Everyone gets a 5 count. Back off ref.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2015 14:52:42 GMT -5
Nothing drives me crazier than the type of fans who acts like they are too cool to watch it, yet they are in the thread each week talking about the show. This
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Post by Jonathan Karate on Nov 1, 2015 15:07:42 GMT -5
Fans thinking guys like Cesaro or Kevin Owens should be main event guys. Some of the greatest of all time were not main event guys. It's ok to not be in the main event. These guys are good, but not show runners. Fans thinking NXT is some godsend. Every episode I've ever seen is just squash matches and then you get a semi-decent Special with one really good match every couple of months. The lack of charisma in the WWE roster. The fact WWE constantly push the Attitude Era as being the best of all time instead of trying to do better. People who think that wrestling > storytelling. The story sells the fight. If you can't talk, or sell the fight, I don't care. Sasha Banks being ignored because of Ric Flair-lite. Hell, even Jay Lethal was a better Ric Flair. Stars not protecting kayfabe and getting away with it. The Undertaker, Lesnar and even Rusev/Lana (Kevin Owens too) seem to fully grasp the storytelling and if I met these people, I'd think they were the character. They're that damn good at projecting the story. Yet Bayley and Sasha Banks cry because they've put on another good match. Sasha hates Bayley and tries to break her arm, yet cries and is all happy with Bayley after she pins her? Makes no sense. Owens is a god damn star and makes everything he does must see.....dude should be in the main event scene anywhere he goes because he deserves to be there. Owens/Cena didn't become the highest drawing house show fued in years because of John Cena. That was purely on Owens. Other then that small comment i agree with everything you said.
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Post by philleaps on Nov 1, 2015 15:09:45 GMT -5
1. Sports Entertainment. It's wrestling. 2. Celebrity guests that have 0 interest or affiliation with wrestling. 3. Lazy last minute booking. (Looking at you, random Big Show matches).
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2015 15:10:34 GMT -5
Bad Luck Fale beating Nakamura makes me want to puke.
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Post by attitudesback on Nov 1, 2015 15:12:06 GMT -5
Fans thinking guys like Cesaro or Kevin Owens should be main event guys. Some of the greatest of all time were not main event guys. It's ok to not be in the main event. These guys are good, but not show runners. Fans thinking NXT is some godsend. Every episode I've ever seen is just squash matches and then you get a semi-decent Special with one really good match every couple of months. The lack of charisma in the WWE roster. The fact WWE constantly push the Attitude Era as being the best of all time instead of trying to do better. People who think that wrestling > storytelling. The story sells the fight. If you can't talk, or sell the fight, I don't care. Sasha Banks being ignored because of Ric Flair-lite. Hell, even Jay Lethal was a better Ric Flair. Stars not protecting kayfabe and getting away with it. The Undertaker, Lesnar and even Rusev/Lana (Kevin Owens too) seem to fully grasp the storytelling and if I met these people, I'd think they were the character. They're that damn good at projecting the story. Yet Bayley and Sasha Banks cry because they've put on another good match. Sasha hates Bayley and tries to break her arm, yet cries and is all happy with Bayley after she pins her? Makes no sense. Owens is a god damn star and makes everything he does must see.....dude should be in the main event scene anywhere he goes because he deserves to be there. Owens/Cena didn't become the highest drawing house show fued in years because of John Cena. That was purely on Owens. Other then that small comment i agree with everything you said. Owens was a bad example looking back on it. I even said in the post he is a fantastic character. I think he could be the perfect "hated" heel as Seth is just a coward that we feel sorry for, not someone we hate for constantly scraping himself through these challenges.
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