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Post by ICW on Dec 8, 2015 19:59:15 GMT -5
Cubs have signed Ben Zobrist to a 4-year, $56M deal and trade Starlin Castro to NYY
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Post by Ben on Dec 9, 2015 7:08:33 GMT -5
I'm not entirely sure why the Cubs traded Castro. I can understand that they are trying to build up an incredibly strong bullpen, but he was pretty good in my opinion. Hopefully I can pick up a cheap jersey of his now.
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Post by punksnotdead on Dec 9, 2015 10:19:36 GMT -5
I'm not entirely sure why the Cubs traded Castro. I can understand that they are trying to build up an incredibly strong bullpen, but he was pretty good in my opinion. Hopefully I can pick up a cheap jersey of his now. Castro's defensive was pretty terrible and his tendency to swing at the down and away slider was worse than Soriano. I was a fan of the guy. He was a bright spot during times when we didn't have many, but Zobrist is a considerable upgrade in OBP and defense, and you can move him all around the field. The age is going to be a factor, but with a guy like Zobrist that makes contact, the drop off shouldn't be huge like it would be with a power hitter in years 3 and 4. I really like Warren too. Seems like a good fit for both the Yankees and Cubs. Also, the Cubs essentially added Warren and Zobrist for 5 million dollars. So Castro was part of a contract swap of sorts for them. They are still chasing Heyward. Could be an incredible offseason on paper. I have an authentic Castro home jersey if you're interested. I'll have to check the size, I think it's a 44 maybe? Not sure what you're looking to pay or if that's in your size range, but I've probably only worn it two or three times.
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Post by Quanthor on Dec 9, 2015 13:57:45 GMT -5
One of the regrets I had this past summer was not getting to Hillsboro to watch Dansby Swanson play for the D-Backs' single A affiliate. I knew he was there but I just couldn't make the time. Oh well, maybe I'll see him someday in the big leagues.
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Post by bad guy™ on Dec 9, 2015 14:04:23 GMT -5
Sounds like both Melancon and Walker will be gone by the end of the day or tomorrow.
Damn.
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Post by Nick the Quick on Dec 9, 2015 16:35:28 GMT -5
Pirates have traded second baseman Neil Walker to the Mets for pitcher Jon Niese.
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Post by dodgerman on Dec 9, 2015 19:10:17 GMT -5
Sounds like both Melancon and Walker will be gone by the end of the day or tomorrow. Damn. Hope Dodgers are interested in melancon, The times I saw him pitch, he was dominate. I also hope he does not have any domestic violence issues.
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Post by bad guy™ on Dec 9, 2015 19:25:33 GMT -5
Pirates have traded second baseman Neil Walker to the Mets for pitcher Jon Niese. And for my next magic trick to dismantle the Pirates...
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Post by IRS on Dec 10, 2015 0:07:27 GMT -5
Pirates have traded second baseman Neil Walker to the Mets for pitcher Jon Niese. Niese? That's all? Yeesh, figured he'd get more value than that.
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Post by IRS on Dec 10, 2015 0:37:38 GMT -5
I'm reasonably happy with the Giles trade. Got one really high-upside pitcher, another solid potential young arm, and an intriguing power-hitting OFer - a 4th player coming over, too.
I really like Giles, but we have no need for a good closer right now. Plus, fireballers tend to have a tendency for blowing out, so it's nice to get a good return on him while you can.
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Post by PJ on Dec 10, 2015 8:56:56 GMT -5
I was pissed when I saw the Pirates traded Walker to the Mets as he was my favorite Pirate. The only good thing about it is now I can watch him on a daily basis.
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Post by Chip on Dec 10, 2015 9:53:20 GMT -5
unless Cashman is planning something, i don't understand trading Justin Wilson who was literally the only consistently good member of the bullpen not named Betances or Miller for two shitbag AAA pitchers.
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Post by ICW on Dec 10, 2015 11:59:58 GMT -5
unless Cashman is planning something, i don't understand trading Justin Wilson who was literally the only consistently good member of the bullpen not named Betances or Miller for two crapbag AAA pitchers. His logic is sound. The Yankees have a plethora of lefties that could replicate Justin Wilson's success in 2016, including Jacob Lindgren and James Pazzos. Cessa and Green are Triple-A starting pitching depth, which the Yankees DESPERATELY needed. How many times did the Yankees bring Chris Capuano back for spot-starts? Cessa and Green allow them to have internal options. They're not studs but Cessa, at the very least, could give you a few starts or even be turned to an effective reliever. Also: it's December 10th. Cashman has plenty of time to build the bullpen and, frankly, the Yankees have ALWAYS built affective bullpens under Joe Girardi's tenure. Not worried at all.
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Dec 10, 2015 14:11:42 GMT -5
We'll have to see how Starlin Castro works out. I'm surprised the Yankees wanted him. He's played less than 50 games at 2nd and is allegedly a rapist.
And like they said on MLB Network, YES Network Hot Stove, and everywhere else that covers sports, unless they trade the two guys they got for Wilson for something better, it makes no sense to trade Wilson. And if they go ahead and trad Miller, then the bullpen is DESTROYED.
With Wilson, Betances, and Miller, you had a good 7th, 8th, and 9th....with Wilson gone and the Yankees openly wanting to trade Miller since the 1st day of the off season, it looks like that is over.
Gonna be seeing a lot of James Pazos, Chasen Shreve, Branden Pinder, and some other grass green kids blow games all summer in the Bronx.
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Post by ICW on Dec 10, 2015 20:58:26 GMT -5
Cashman has time to repair the bullpen. Yanks have plenty of depth at LHP, he dealt from an area of strength. I'm willing to give at least Lindgren & Pazzos a shot. Lindgren struggled when he was called up because of that bone spur in his elbow. If he's all healed up, he should be much better than Wilson.
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Post by The Gangsta on Dec 10, 2015 23:01:07 GMT -5
I was pretty surprised Castro went to the Yanks, never really knew they looked for him. Bethancourt went to the Padres after everything with the Braves. I wonder if Norris or Hedges could get traded and Bethancourt steps up.
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Post by Mark Martin on Dec 11, 2015 13:39:12 GMT -5
Sounds like Heyward chose Chicago over St. Louis.
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Post by punksnotdead on Dec 11, 2015 13:47:17 GMT -5
My life right now. Not sure what it took or what the money is going to be but I'm a big time Heyward fan. I'm in love UZR and Heyward is an animal. The Cubs aren't done either. I'm looking for Soler to be traded for a starting pitcher before the end of the weekend. If that's the case we could see them go after Span or possibly even bring back Fowler to fill CF. My first choice would be trading for Gomez if the Astros are willing to move him though. Unbelievable offseason for the Cubs.
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Post by J Man Graves on Dec 12, 2015 0:30:43 GMT -5
I knew realistically the Cardinals weren't getting Heyward because they very rarely ever spend the money that they have for emergency situations like the one they are in currently. With that said, it breaks my heart to see Heyward go to the Cubs. Love my Cards, but 2016 is looking scarier and scarier everyday. I hope we aren't entering one of those 20 year "re-building" phases.
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Post by Chip on Dec 12, 2015 13:14:53 GMT -5
what kind of a world do we live in when Jason Heyward gets almost 200 MILLION DOLLARS completely ridiculous Cashman better not ing trade Andrew Miller.
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