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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2015 23:57:59 GMT -5
It's not about them saying "SEE WE CARE!" It's more of them trying to get the feud over because they want the feud to feel important.For weeks paige has been talking smack and beating up people and yes she did take a lost last week BUT she did attack becky making her come out at least a dominant heel who isn't gonna take a lost and let them get away with it.There trying to make You care so they wanted to take a risk and let them close the show.Do you care about the match after everything that happened after that segment? Do you want to see Charlotte get revenge on paige after that low blow comment about her family? too little Too late The ppv is in 6 days they should have thought about people caring about the fued before now Let me ask you this what would you have done different then what WWE has done?
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Post by cmiller79 on Nov 16, 2015 23:58:17 GMT -5
the only thing the flairs had an issue with was how much extra they were getting paid to use Reid's heroin overdose in a storyline Ric should be making bank as is. Living legend that man. yeah I'd imagine he makes pretty good money doing all these signings and making appearances at Indy shows
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Nov 17, 2015 0:01:07 GMT -5
Ric should be making bank as is. Living legend that man. yeah I'd imagine he makes pretty good money doing all these signings and making appearances at Indy shows Doesn't Ric owe a lot of money though to like Highspots website and to ex wives?? I don't think Ric is as rich as we think he is anymore. Plus his son's heroin habit had to take a lot out of his bank account.... wait... too soon??
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Post by The IT Factor on Nov 17, 2015 0:01:41 GMT -5
You, and you alone. Because the crowd didn't care one bit, and I doubt anyone's gonna care come Sunday. It was just a stupid, and tasteless line, that did NOTHING for this feud. This line was on the same level as "Eddie's in hell," in terms of disgusting & cheap attempts to get heat. Oh come on, I doubt Eddie Guerrero is even dead. The guy stated for years that he lies. But on a serious note.... the simple fact that you are so legit angry over this, proves that the WWE did the right thing. It got people talking. And that is what the WWE wanted. No, I'm not angry over this. I'm baffled by how lazy WWE's writing is, that they resorted to bringing up someone's death to get heat on someone. Also, the point was to get me mad at Paige. And I'm not.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2015 0:02:52 GMT -5
yeah I'd imagine he makes pretty good money doing all these signings and making appearances at Indy shows Doesn't Ric owe a lot of money though to like Highspots website and to ex wives?? I don't think Ric is as rich as we think he is anymore. Plus his son's heroin habit had to take a lot out of his bank account.... wait... too soon?? I thought the highspots thing was over. I couldn't imagine those alimony checks. Lol
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Post by The IT Factor on Nov 17, 2015 0:03:13 GMT -5
You, and you alone. Because the crowd didn't care one bit, and I doubt anyone's gonna care come Sunday. It was just a stupid, and tasteless line, that did NOTHING for this feud. He's not alone. Go back and rewatch it. The crowd was extremely into it when Charlotte attacked Paige. Bottom line it worked Right, because that utter silence at the end of the segment was just my imagination.
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Post by TurboEddie on Nov 17, 2015 0:05:38 GMT -5
Solid Raw. I liked the opening and closing segments, and the Neville/Owens and Cesaro/Reigns matches were great.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2015 0:05:43 GMT -5
Oh come on, I doubt Eddie Guerrero is even dead. The guy stated for years that he lies. But on a serious note.... the simple fact that you are so legit angry over this, proves that the WWE did the right thing. It got people talking. And that is what the WWE wanted. No, I'm not angry over this. I'm baffled by how lazy WWE's writing is, that they resorted to bringing up someone's death to get heat on someone. Also, the point was to get me mad at Paige. And I'm not. By why are you not mad at paige for saying it? Because she did say it.Why can't we all just get into storylines and not look at everything from a backstage point of view.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Nov 17, 2015 0:06:20 GMT -5
Oh come on, I doubt Eddie Guerrero is even dead. The guy stated for years that he lies. But on a serious note.... the simple fact that you are so legit angry over this, proves that the WWE did the right thing. It got people talking. And that is what the WWE wanted. No, I'm not angry over this. I'm baffled by how lazy WWE's writing is, that they resorted to bringing up someone's death to get heat on someone. Also, the point was to get me mad at Paige. And I'm not. You must have never watched wrestling before until tonight then... In the summer of 2000, Tazz said to Jim Ross, and I quote, "I would slap you in the face... but it looks like God already beat me to it." In 1998, Justin Credible badmouthed Tommy Dreamer's dead grandfather - who died days before - during the 10 bell salute for him in the ECW Arena. In 1985, Roddy Piper said to Mr. T, "your kind spent years trying to get away from wearing chains, and you wear them freely". Every time, wrestling goes over the line, and each time it does, it makes fans invested into the match and feud. I wouldn't be surprised if this wasn't Charlotte's idea to be honest, to include her brother into the feud as paying a bit of respect to him.
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Post by cmiller79 on Nov 17, 2015 0:07:05 GMT -5
too little Too late The ppv is in 6 days they should have thought about people caring about the fued before now Let me ask you this what would you have done different then what WWE has done? I would have picked a storyline and stuck with it
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Post by The IT Factor on Nov 17, 2015 0:07:09 GMT -5
No, I'm not angry over this. I'm baffled by how lazy WWE's writing is, that they resorted to bringing up someone's death to get heat on someone. Also, the point was to get me mad at Paige. And I'm not. You must have never watched wrestling before until tonight then... In the summer of 2000, Tazz said to Jim Ross, and I quote, "I would slap you in the face... but it looks like God already beat me to it." In 1998, Justin Credible badmouthed Tommy Dreamer's dead grandfather - who died days before - during the 10 bell salute for him in the ECW Arena. In 1985, Roddy Piper said to Mr. T, "your kind spent years trying to get away from wearing chains, and you wear them freely". Every time, wrestling goes over the line, and each time it does, it makes fans invested into the match and feud. I wouldn't be surprised if this wasn't Charlotte's idea to be honest, to include her brother into the feud as paying a bit of respect to him. But here's the thing: People still didn't care at the end of the segment. The crowd didn't react at all to what Paige said. So it failed.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Nov 17, 2015 0:09:46 GMT -5
You must have never watched wrestling before until tonight then... In the summer of 2000, Tazz said to Jim Ross, and I quote, "I would slap you in the face... but it looks like God already beat me to it." In 1998, Justin Credible badmouthed Tommy Dreamer's dead grandfather - who died days before - during the 10 bell salute for him in the ECW Arena. In 1985, Roddy Piper said to Mr. T, "your kind spent years trying to get away from wearing chains, and you wear them freely". Every time, wrestling goes over the line, and each time it does, it makes fans invested into the match and feud. I wouldn't be surprised if this wasn't Charlotte's idea to be honest, to include her brother into the feud as paying a bit of respect to him. But here's the thing: People still didn't care at the end of the segment. The crowd din't react at all to what Paige said. So it failed. Wow, I guess you were watching a different Raw than I was. Because the crowd clearly reacted. That is called 'white heat'. It's when the angle was so wrong, that the crowd gasps, hushes and goes quiet right off the bat. Because they can't believe what was just said/happened. A few minutes later when they were brawling it out and tossing each other across the announce table, the fans were into it. I don't think you know much about wrestling.
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Post by cmiller79 on Nov 17, 2015 0:10:05 GMT -5
yeah I'd imagine he makes pretty good money doing all these signings and making appearances at Indy shows Doesn't Ric owe a lot of money though to like Highspots website and to ex wives?? I don't think Ric is as rich as we think he is anymore. Plus his son's heroin habit had to take a lot out of his bank account.... wait... too soon?? how does he owe money to high spots? What happened? Lol And yeah 4 ex wives will drain your bank account Yeah i don't think ric is RICH but I'm sure he still makes more money then most
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2015 0:10:10 GMT -5
He's not alone. Go back and rewatch it. The crowd was extremely into it when Charlotte attacked Paige. Bottom line it worked Right, because that utter silence at the end of the segment was just my imagination. Yes. That was your imagination. It's wild isn't it.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Nov 17, 2015 0:13:14 GMT -5
Doesn't Ric owe a lot of money though to like Highspots website and to ex wives?? I don't think Ric is as rich as we think he is anymore. Plus his son's heroin habit had to take a lot out of his bank account.... wait... too soon?? how does he owe money to high spots? What happened? Lol And yeah 4 ex wives will drain your bank account Back in 2009.... I wanna say, he did a shoot interview with them. A four disc one! I have seen it, it's alright. But something happened with them with money. I remember he gave the NWA Title to Highspots as collateral. He owed them like $20,000 or something. I don't remember the whole story, but this happened back in 2011 or so. I am sure it's on the internet some where.
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Post by The IT Factor on Nov 17, 2015 0:15:12 GMT -5
But here's the thing: People still didn't care at the end of the segment. The crowd din't react at all to what Paige said. So it failed. Wow, I guess you were watching a different Raw than I was. Because the crowd clearly reacted. That is called 'white heat'. It's when the angle was so wrong, that the crowd gasps, hushes and goes quiet right off the bat. Because they can't believe what was just said/happened. A few minutes later when they were brawling it out and tossing each other across the announce table, the fans were into it. I don't think you know much about wrestling. You might be right. We probably were watching a different RAW, because I only heard one or two gasps, at best. There was no reason for WWE to do this, and it was just a cheap attempt to gain heat for this feud. And it didn't work. Also, I love how you claim that I don't know much about wrestling, because I'm pointing out how little the crowd cared about it. I'm not the only one to say the crowd was dead, so I guess the people who said the same thing as me don't know much about wrestling either, huh? I'm done discussing this.
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Post by cmiller79 on Nov 17, 2015 0:17:19 GMT -5
how does he owe money to high spots? What happened? Lol And yeah 4 ex wives will drain your bank account Back in 2009.... I wanna say, he did a shoot interview with them. A four disc one! I have seen it, it's alright. But something happened with them with money. I remember he gave the NWA Title to Highspots as collateral. He owed them like $20,000 or something. I don't remember the whole story, but this happened back in 2011 or so. I am sure it's on the internet some where. damn thats crazy Do you know if they sued him?
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Nov 17, 2015 0:19:07 GMT -5
Wow, I guess you were watching a different Raw than I was. Because the crowd clearly reacted. That is called 'white heat'. It's when the angle was so wrong, that the crowd gasps, hushes and goes quiet right off the bat. Because they can't believe what was just said/happened. A few minutes later when they were brawling it out and tossing each other across the announce table, the fans were into it. I don't think you know much about wrestling. You might be right. We probably were watching a different RAW, because I only heard one or two gasps, at best. There was no reason for WWE to do this, and it was just a cheap attempt to gain heat for this feud. And it didn't work. Also, I love how you claim that I don't know much about wrestling, because I'm pointing out how little the crowd cared about it. I'm not the only one to say the crowd was dead, so I guess the people who said the same thing as me don't know much about wrestling either, huh? I'm done discussing this. For the first time in a very long time, people on here are talking about Raw with such passion because of that last segment. Did you want Raw to end with Roman Reigns beat Cesaro, shaking his hand and then going over to look at the WWE Title?? Because if that had happened, everyone on here would be bitching and moaning about how Raw ended and it wasn't a cliffhanger or anything like that. And that's not me bashing Cesaro or Roman, I enjoy those 2 guys, but that would have been a horrible way to end Raw. Instead, Raw gives us this big angle at the end of Raw, and the fans still aren't pleased. That is so impressive.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2015 0:19:50 GMT -5
Wow, I guess you were watching a different Raw than I was. Because the crowd clearly reacted. That is called 'white heat'. It's when the angle was so wrong, that the crowd gasps, hushes and goes quiet right off the bat. Because they can't believe what was just said/happened. A few minutes later when they were brawling it out and tossing each other across the announce table, the fans were into it. I don't think you know much about wrestling. You might be right. We probably were watching a different RAW, because I only heard one or two gasps, at best. There was no reason for WWE to do this, and it was just a cheap attempt to gain heat for this feud. And it didn't work. Also, I love how you claim that I don't know much about wrestling, because I'm pointing out how little the crowd cared about it. I'm not the only one to say the crowd was dead, so I guess the people who said the same thing as me don't know much about wrestling either, huh? I'm done discussing this. The crowd wasn't dead.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2015 0:20:22 GMT -5
Back in 2009.... I wanna say, he did a shoot interview with them. A four disc one! I have seen it, it's alright. But something happened with them with money. I remember he gave the NWA Title to Highspots as collateral. He owed them like $20,000 or something. I don't remember the whole story, but this happened back in 2011 or so. I am sure it's on the internet some where. damn thats crazy Do you know if they sued him? Yeah. They definitely sued him. I thought he had paid it off though.
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