mrassbillygunn
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Post by mrassbillygunn on Nov 21, 2015 23:37:24 GMT -5
Because we got Elites to buy, sucka!
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Post by Halloween King on Nov 22, 2015 4:06:59 GMT -5
Apologies in advance if this is a long read: This is something I've been thinking about lately. A couple of months ago I decided to leave my last job and just take a break from working because I was quite honestly sick of it. Right now I'm 23 years old and have no responsibilities so I don't NEED to have a job at this point in time. But don't mistake that as me being a leech: I've saved a good bit of money in the bank and can afford to take a break from it all right now. And I definitely do my share of helping out. To me, the whole work thing is a really depressing concept to me. It always has been. Most people are born, go to school, then college or university, putting themselves through years of needless stress and then and then instead of getting to sit back, relax and enjoy life when it's finally over, they're thrust right into work until life throws them the retirement bone when they're what, in their sixties or older and a ball hair away from their grave? Sounds fun, where do I sign up? I left school immediately after my exams in 4th year when I was 16 with no intentions of going to college or university. My freedom and happiness was far more valuable than some meaningless qualifications. As far as I can remember, when people would bring up the subject of work and what we wanted to do for a living I would just groan. It's not something I ever thought about as a kid because the idea of working for the rest of my life was a miserable one. I preferred to just enjoy my childhood and live in the present without having the thought of a job thrust upon me from the moment I came out the womb. The thought of spending my life being chained down to a menial job that I don't even want to be doing just to live is depressing. I don't like the feeling of being shackled, I prefer to be a free spirit. If I had the choice, I wouldn't work at all and would just do what I want. And really isn't that what life's all about? Being happy? It just seems like a silly concept to me, to waste most of your life being unhappy. Why should I bother slaving away at a 9-5 job for 30 years of my life just to secure myself a somewhat mediocre retirement? I don't even like to think that far into the future, it's just needless worrying. I'd rather live in the moment doing the things I love and enjoy being young. I don't like to think about 10, 20 or 30 years from now. I'll cross that bridge when I get to it. Hell, it's not even guaranteed that we WILL get to it because another 30 years of life isn't guaranteed. I read a saying somewhere: "Never get so busy making a living that you forget to make a life". Why has everybody been brainwashed into giving up all of their time to work jobs they mostly hate? Most people have even managed to convince themselves that they love their jobs when you know for a fact that they wouldn't be doing it if they didn't have to. Sometimes I'll look out my window at 7am when it's still dark and see the motorway already busy with people driving to work like zombies on a conveyor belt. I always wonder to myself how many of those people are happy to be getting up and driving to work at that hour. And don't get me started on people who tell others who are doing something fun for a living to "get a real job" aka 9 to 5 job you despise because that's the position they're stuck in. They're nothing more than nameless, faceless, floating suits, digits, numbers, statistics. Then I'll see the stuck up, pretentious 9 to 5 wankers/shirt & tie brigade plodding along with their cups of coffee in one hand and their briefcases in the other looking absolutely dead inside with nothing going on inside their heads but numbers and figures, totally controlled by money and material possessions. It's a miserable existence that I'm so glad to not be a part of. People watching during morning rush hour is a truly fascinating thing to do. Seriously, try it sometime. Right now I've been enjoying my freedom, being able to sleep until whenever I want, not having to wake up to an alarm and being free to do whatever I want, whenever I want. I can honestly say that right now, I'm content, happy and enjoying the hell out of life right now. I'm almost always relaxed and have no anxiety, stress or worries. I genuinely do not remember the last time I was stressed out. And I've learned to appreciate so many of the simple things in life. I'm in absolutely no hurry to go back into the miserable, brainwashed, zombie-like world of work right now. A bird can make a nest in two days, a rat can dig a hole in one night, yet we humans work for over 30 years to pay for a house. Why have we made life so needlessly complicated for ourselves? I've been meaning to do this thread for a while because I'm curious to know how the rest of society feels about this subject. I'm interested to hear your thoughts. View AttachmentFYI: I'm not saying that I'll never go back to work, that's just stupid. I'm obviously going to need a source of income again at some point. But for right now, I'm just enjoying being able to live a stress and worry free life. Why is that so wrong? You said it your self, RIGHT NOW YOU ARE 23. One day though you'll be older. If you work now you will work towards making your senior years more comfortable. If you work now you'll either work towards putting money away in a 401k or a pension, or some other kind of differed compensation program. Or at the very least put some money into the social security system just in case it's still around when you need it.
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Post by ~*Young $ Money*~ on Nov 22, 2015 12:51:34 GMT -5
I am 28 and fully agree with you. While i don't hate work i just think there is so much more to life and the world. My friend says the same thing. I would rather have basic things, house and car and do and buy what i want then have bigger and better things and struggle and stress. USA is so crapty for over working. people work 10-12 hour days just to survive. That's not life or shouldn't be. I can see not wanting to work and such at a young age but if you can live off what you have go for it. I do Landscaping and am lucky enough to have 2-3 months off in the winter to kind of recharge and relax a little bit. Although i don't really go crazy and do anything, its nice to have a vacation. And before anyone says anything about it from March to December i am working 5-6 days a week, long hours, get home do paper work and then do it all again the next day. Its nice to enjoy the winter a bit.
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Post by SE4NY on Nov 22, 2015 14:32:51 GMT -5
I'm 16 years of age, I'm very afraid for how I'll handle things to come but I know one thing, I'd be one bored mother er if I done nothing all the time, I want to be a computer technician when I leave school, that's a goal and something I have to work towards, without a goal we are nothing, you know?
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Post by Next Man’s Yeeter on Nov 22, 2015 14:51:31 GMT -5
If you can get away with doing nothing, absolutely go for it until you either get bored or have to get a job -- although knowing that you are going to have to do something at some point, I'd recommend spending at least some time thinking about what you'd like that something to be. I've got friends in their thirties who do nothing and still live with their mommy, and they don't really have the consumerism disease that I (and many of us wrestling doll collectors) am cursed with, and their mommy gravy train is gonna be fine until mommy dies. At that point, they're kinda screwed, but they could be 50-60 years old by then anyway.
My job's fine, if a little boring, but I hate having to get up every morning and go there all day, five days a week. But between rent, phone, Internet, food, toys, video games etc I have to do it. I wish there was an off-season where I would have a month or two off work and still getting paid, but that's not gonna happen so I may as well wish for a lottery win.
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Post by Parchandri on Nov 22, 2015 17:07:10 GMT -5
You need to read Karl Marx's The Communist Manifesto, seriously.
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Post by LA Times on Nov 22, 2015 21:31:19 GMT -5
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Post by "The Perfect Ten" Mizard on Nov 22, 2015 23:06:12 GMT -5
Money?
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Post by Escape The Rules on Nov 23, 2015 2:58:06 GMT -5
I'm 16 years of age, I'm very afraid for how I'll handle things to come but I know one thing, I'd be one bored mother er if I done nothing all the time, I want to be a computer technician when I leave school, that's a goal and something I have to work towards, without a goal we are nothing, you know? Oh, I have plenty of goals, dreams and a bucket list of things I want to do in life. But absolutely none of them are work or career related. I just have no ambition or enthusiasm when it comes to work.
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Post by Escape The Rules on Nov 23, 2015 3:00:30 GMT -5
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Post by Escape The Rules on Nov 23, 2015 3:01:22 GMT -5
You need to read Karl Marx's The Communist Manifesto, seriously. What's it about?
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Post by Flair Forever on Nov 23, 2015 10:30:48 GMT -5
Actually the more I read and think about this thread, the more pissed off I am. But I'm not gonna get all the way into it. If you need to be told what's wrong with your outlook, you're not worth my fingertips hitting the keyboard son. We would all love to do what we want and still have the means to fund it. You wanna avoid a 9-5 job, well leaving college wasn't the way to do it. I've been a top tier boss since I was 23. Same with my wife. We didn't get there by scratching our ass laying in our bed till noon everyday. We make our own schedules and do very well. As soon as your savings run out, get your sh*t together. sickens me that my tax dollars will probably help you one day. Yeah, you just about summed it up..... Very few of us enjoy going out and working every day.... congrats if you've figured out a way that you don't have to. Many of us DO have responsibilities & children..... some of us have medical issues & require decent health care & benefits. There are two kinds of people.... those who work & contribute to society, & those who live off of "the system" that is provided by the ones that work. Many of those people are disabled & elderly - unfortunately, many others are just lazy and un-motivated. Fortunately - I've never been unemployed, I've had a job consistently for twenty years..... If you are not working/contributing - and not accepting assistance from any parents, or government agency - then congratulations, you've discovered something that very few people have been able to do. And you are lucky if you have good health! One day, you may find that you'll need health care - not sure if you are overseas, but in America, good healthcare is expensive.... Marco Rubio has been criticized for his recent statement that "We need less philosophers and more welders"..... I'm not taking this out on the OP directly - I have several friends who have adopted this same outlook, and they seem to be doing just fine.... they work part time jobs, or not at all..... while I seem to need to work 60 hours per week just to pay all the bills (and sometimes, I barely can pay them all). Not sure how they do it..... many of them still live with their parents.... and seem very content to do that.
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Post by Escape The Rules on Nov 23, 2015 10:52:39 GMT -5
Actually the more I read and think about this thread, the more pissed off I am. But I'm not gonna get all the way into it. If you need to be told what's wrong with your outlook, you're not worth my fingertips hitting the keyboard son. We would all love to do what we want and still have the means to fund it. You wanna avoid a 9-5 job, well leaving college wasn't the way to do it. I've been a top tier boss since I was 23. Same with my wife. We didn't get there by scratching our ass laying in our bed till noon everyday. We make our own schedules and do very well. As soon as your savings run out, get your sh*t together. sickens me that my tax dollars will probably help you one day. Yeah, you just about summed it up..... Very few of us enjoy going out and working every day.... congrats if you've figured out a way that you don't have to. Many of us DO have responsibilities & children..... some of us have medical issues & require decent health care & benefits. There are two kinds of people.... those who work & contribute to society, & those who live off of "the system" that is provided by the ones that work. Many of those people are disabled & elderly - unfortunately, many others are just lazy and un-motivated. Fortunately - I've never been unemployed, I've had a job consistently for twenty years..... If you are not working/contributing - and not accepting assistance from any parents, or government agency - then congratulations, you've discovered something that very few people have been able to do. And you are lucky if you have good health! One day, you may find that you'll need health care - not sure if you are overseas, but in America, good healthcare is expensive....Marco Rubio has been criticized for his recent statement that "We need less philosophers and more welders"..... I'm not taking this out on the OP directly - I have several friends who have adopted this same outlook, and they seem to be doing just fine.... they work part time jobs, or not at all..... while I seem to need to work 60 hours per week just to pay all the bills (and sometimes, I barely can pay them all). Not sure how they do it..... many of them still live with their parents.... and seem very content to do that. That's the situation that I've made for myself right now. I know it's not going to last forever but right now it's nice to be able live life on my terms. And thankfully I have good health. I live in Scotland so if ever I fall unwell, my doctor is able to prescribe me medication at no cost. And god forbid should anything else happen, I'm taken care of by the NHS.
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Nov 23, 2015 11:01:10 GMT -5
I work because it's the only legal way to get money, and I've got bills to pay and stuff I like to buy.
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Post by SE4NY on Nov 23, 2015 11:34:08 GMT -5
I'm 16 years of age, I'm very afraid for how I'll handle things to come but I know one thing, I'd be one bored mother er if I done nothing all the time, I want to be a computer technician when I leave school, that's a goal and something I have to work towards, without a goal we are nothing, you know? Oh, I have plenty of goals, dreams and a bucket list of things I want to do in life. But absolutely none of them are work or career related. I just have no ambition or enthusiasm when it comes to work. Unfortunately jobs are always going to be around.
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Post by Escape The Rules on Nov 23, 2015 11:51:23 GMT -5
Oh, I have plenty of goals, dreams and a bucket list of things I want to do in life. But absolutely none of them are work or career related. I just have no ambition or enthusiasm when it comes to work. Unfortunately jobs are always going to be around. That isn't really a bad thing. Don't confuse me having a different view on work as me being against jobs existing.
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Post by SE4NY on Nov 23, 2015 14:12:26 GMT -5
Unfortunately jobs are always going to be around. That isn't really a bad thing. Don't confuse me having a different view on work as me being against jobs existing. I'm not trying to confuse it, but it all ties in, if there were no jobs then we could live as we like, but it's unfortunate that a job is required to live your life the way you want, we are all somebody's puppet.
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Post by Escape The Rules on Nov 23, 2015 14:21:16 GMT -5
That isn't really a bad thing. Don't confuse me having a different view on work as me being against jobs existing. I'm not trying to confuse it, but it all ties in, if there were no jobs then we could live as we like, but it's unfortunate that a job is required to live your life the way you want, we are all somebody's puppet. Ah now I get you. Completely agree. While there are people doing great jobs out there such as emergency services, people we need in life who make the world go round, there are so many menial and pointless jobs out there that literally serve no purpose and are a waste of time. Those are the ones that make me question why we do it.
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Post by Thunder Chunky on Nov 23, 2015 15:07:00 GMT -5
I'm not trying to confuse it, but it all ties in, if there were no jobs then we could live as we like, but it's unfortunate that a job is required to live your life the way you want, we are all somebody's puppet. Ah now I get you. Completely agree. While there are people doing great jobs out there such as emergency services, people we need in life who make the world go round, there are so many menial and pointless jobs out there that literally serve no purpose and are a waste of time. Those are the ones that make me question why we do it. Examples?
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Post by Escape The Rules on Nov 23, 2015 16:24:36 GMT -5
Ah now I get you. Completely agree. While there are people doing great jobs out there such as emergency services, people we need in life who make the world go round, there are so many menial and pointless jobs out there that literally serve no purpose and are a waste of time. Those are the ones that make me question why we do it. Examples? Of pointless jobs? The shirt and tie brigade is the first thing that comes to mind. Thousands of office jobs out there where people don't do any actual work. So they send a few emails, photocopy stuff and do some silly reports on numbers and stuff, big deal. Some of the people doing these jobs get paid way more than they should be getting. Door person is another one. Kitchen porter, dish washer. The world would hardly stop if these type of positions didn't exist. That's not a dig at anyone who does those jobs by the way. Hell even I worked a job for a year where I literally did no work! I did nightshift security in a building where nothing EVER happened. Not once. I got paid for a year to sit back, chill, eat, browse the web and on a few occasions: sleep. So for a little while, I was part of the problem.
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