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Post by mikey1974 on Nov 27, 2015 19:19:20 GMT -5
yep, you're right! for some reason, the full length movie on Youtube that I watched actually omits this scene. It goes from Foley laying there to walking in and talking to Vince in his office. So, I apologize. He did say in the chapter covering the match though that one guy who didn't come in and see him was The Rock. Only thing I can think of then is that he meant the Rock didn't physically come and see him while he was getting patched up, as much as it was they ran into each other in the hallway? EDIT - okay, I found out, this scene wasn't part of the original release, Foley and Rock in the hallway, but was later put in the extended, unrated director's cut DVD. That's why I never saw it before. Again, weird Foley says the Rock never came and talked to him, unless like I said he means that he didn't come to the room after the match when he was getting sewn up. I don´t blame you because when I was looking for the vid to prove my point and my memory, I just couldn´t find it until I watched it yet again this time on my dvd and it was that, it was the extended version. I read long time ago that Mick actually forgot about that exchange they had until someone pointed out that indeed Rock kind of went to check on him, with all that punishment Foley had it is expected for him to forget a lot of things but I can be totally wrong with that one. I still love the match, one of my favorites to this day. I have to say, that's a pretty damned big omission from the movie, especially considering Foley's comments in his book, then they remove the scene that proves Rock DID check on Foley...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2015 23:23:56 GMT -5
All that sh*t Foley did was his idea. Him and Funk dreamed up the cell stuff and we all saw what happened there
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Post by cmiller79 on Nov 28, 2015 0:28:29 GMT -5
After all those brutal chair shots to the head I'm not surprised mick doesn't remember the rock coming up to him
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Post by cmiller79 on Nov 28, 2015 0:29:55 GMT -5
All that sh*t Foley did was his idea. Him and Funk dreamed up the cell stuff and we all saw what happened there yeah we did he got himself over for life & made himself a legend from that point on regardless how the rest of his career went thats what happened
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Post by TheXtremisT on Nov 28, 2015 5:42:25 GMT -5
Thanks for all the info guys.
I also thought it odd that Mick said in hist book that Rock didn't check on him after the match, but here we are: he did. Must have got a concussion from all those shots, and made him forgetful. But you're right Mikey - it wasn't really the Rock "visiting" him, they bumped into each other in the hallway.
I doubt Rock ever wanted to visit him that day to see how he was. But I do believe he regretted his actions in the match. Sometimes it's hard to swallow your pride and admit you were wrong, especially when you hurt someone so bad (physically/emotionally). I guess it stems from not knowing the right thing to say, and fearing the other person holds you in such contempt they don't want to see you.
I remember TNA in 2012 when Xema Ion fought Jesse Sorenson, and Xema botched a moonsault to the outside by smashing his knee into Jesse's head and crushed a vertebrae in his neck. Dude was paralysed for a long time. And in the months after, Xema never once came to see how Jesse was, despite them being good friends before the incident.
They reconciled the year after, and Xema explained that he felt so much guilt that he couldn't face up to what he did, and didn't know what to say. Sure, sorry is always expected, but in that situation - it's difficult to go from there.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2015 8:21:10 GMT -5
All that sh*t Foley did was his idea. Him and Funk dreamed up the cell stuff and we all saw what happened there yeah we did he got himself over for life & made himself a legend from that point on regardless how the rest of his career went thats what happened Lol I know that man. My point was, all the crazy spots and the multitude of chair shots was all Foley's idea IMO. Obviously Vince and co had to approve it and everything but I don't think there's hard feelings on Mick's part toward anyone who he wrestled in those type of matches. At least I don't think there should be because that's how Mick wanted to get over and make a name in history and that's exactly what he did
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Post by Duke Silver on Nov 28, 2015 10:11:25 GMT -5
yeah we did he got himself over for life & made himself a legend from that point on regardless how the rest of his career went thats what happened Lol I know that man. My point was, all the crazy spots and the multitude of chair shots was all Foley's idea IMO. Obviously Vince and co had to approve it and everything but I don't think there's hard feelings on Mick's part toward anyone who he wrestled in those type of matches. At least I don't think there should be because that's how Mick wanted to get over and make a name in history and that's exactly what he did Agreed on all points. But on the flip side, Foley was already made after King of the Ring and winning the title on Raw (to me at least). They could've went a different route and still make Rock look ruthless without all those chairshots. Watching Mick snap after the second(?) chairshot and daring Rock to hit him, was a great sequence, but only for those few seconds.
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Post by cmiller79 on Nov 28, 2015 18:08:26 GMT -5
Lol I know that man. My point was, all the crazy spots and the multitude of chair shots was all Foley's idea IMO. Obviously Vince and co had to approve it and everything but I don't think there's hard feelings on Mick's part toward anyone who he wrestled in those type of matches. At least I don't think there should be because that's how Mick wanted to get over and make a name in history and that's exactly what he did Agreed on all points. But on the flip side, Foley was already made after King of the Ring and winning the title on Raw (to me at least). They could've went a different route and still make Rock look ruthless without all those chairshots. Watching Mick snap after the second(?) chairshot and daring Rock to hit him, was a great sequence, but only for those few seconds. yeah we were talking about king of the ring when he got tossed off the cell that it was his idea but it got him over for life & made sure he would be a legend no matter what else happened
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Post by cmiller79 on Nov 28, 2015 18:17:48 GMT -5
yeah we did he got himself over for life & made himself a legend from that point on regardless how the rest of his career went thats what happened Lol I know that man. My point was, all the crazy spots and the multitude of chair shots was all Foley's idea IMO. Obviously Vince and co had to approve it and everything but I don't think there's hard feelings on Mick's part toward anyone who he wrestled in those type of matches. At least I don't think there should be because that's how Mick wanted to get over and make a name in history and that's exactly what he did I blame mick and rocky but I blame rock more since mick was legit handcuffed and there wasn't much he could do to defend himself but those were some of the most brutal chair shots I've ever seen
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Post by Starscream on Nov 28, 2015 19:10:09 GMT -5
I wouldn´t blame anyone, it just makes no sense to blame either guy. It was a huge misunderstanding, Mick should of stayed down after the first or second chairshot but he didn´t, he forgot. Rock should've thought it better before doing the chairshots but since it was an important moment for his character and Foley was not really helping on the situation either by provoking him (Rock maybe thought he was still in character), crap happened. And Rock cared, just because is not on the internet or talk about doesn´t mean it didn´t happen. If he didn´t care they wouldn´t be such good friends as they seem to be.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2015 22:13:27 GMT -5
Lol I know that man. My point was, all the crazy spots and the multitude of chair shots was all Foley's idea IMO. Obviously Vince and co had to approve it and everything but I don't think there's hard feelings on Mick's part toward anyone who he wrestled in those type of matches. At least I don't think there should be because that's how Mick wanted to get over and make a name in history and that's exactly what he did I blame mick and rocky but I blame rock more since mick was legit handcuffed and there wasn't much he could do to defend himself but those were some of the most brutal chair shots I've ever seen Awe man they were wicked. That was, by far, the most uncomfortable I've ever felt as a wrestling fan
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Post by cmiller79 on Nov 28, 2015 22:20:57 GMT -5
I blame mick and rocky but I blame rock more since mick was legit handcuffed and there wasn't much he could do to defend himself but those were some of the most brutal chair shots I've ever seen Awe man they were wicked. That was, by far, the most uncomfortable I've ever felt as a wrestling fan as much as I like that match I always cringe and turn my head a little with every chair shot
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Post by mikey1974 on Nov 30, 2015 14:58:19 GMT -5
And I still laugh how the match was meant to be "toned down" because of all the heat the WWF was getting from USA Network because how violent they were getting. I swear it was said that the president of the Network at that time and his son were in the front row no less! And it only ended up being possibly the most violent and brutal match in WWE history!
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Post by MrPerfect25 on Dec 1, 2015 16:30:04 GMT -5
I remember the Rock specifically coming and checking on Mick in Beyond the Mat. I'm glad someone posted the clip. Maybe he never said the word "sorry" until a month or two afterwards.
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