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Post by Miztery on Dec 9, 2015 17:35:34 GMT -5
First off, let me state that this IS NOT meant to be another bash Reigns thread. We all know it's been a long term goal for the WWE that the fans eventually accept Reigns. In some ways, it has happened. Myself and many others have gained respect for him due to the fact he has improved drastically in the ring. Reigns deserves all the credit for that because he has gotten better on his own. Despite my newfound respect for Reigns in the ring, I dislike him more than I did 6 months ago. The reason being is for two reasons. Reason #1 is that they keep putting a mic on him. He's just not any good on the mic. Period. He looked like he was dying right before Sheamus came out. He's completely out of his depth whenever he has to talk for over two minutes.
Reason #2 is that they book him as an underdog, which is strange considering nothing about him makes him look like an underdog and the fact they acted like he was the alpha dog throughout his time in the Shield. If he was the alpha dog when he was in a group but now he keeps coming up short on his own, that makes him look like he needed Ambrose and Rollins to be successful. Bottom line is that I like Roman Reigns, but if WWE continues to shove the current Reigns down my throat it will drive me away from the product. Why can't they understand that you can't give him Cena like promos without him having Cena level mic skills. Have him shut his mouth, be a badass samoan guy, and I would love him.
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Post by futureisrollins on Dec 9, 2015 17:44:35 GMT -5
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Dec 9, 2015 17:46:34 GMT -5
I don't hate him by any means. He's had some FANTASTIC big match performances this year. I do agree to some extent though. They aren't doing anything with him to make him likable. It's as if they are doing everything in their power to make him unlikable. I want to really like him, because he's good, but it's like they're setting him up for failure instead of playing to his strengths and using that to make him a star.
Also, in b4 "YOU ONLY DISLIKE HIM CUZ HES NOT A DARLING. YOU JUST WANT TO BOO THE GUY THE WWE WANTS TO PUSH"
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Post by Miztery on Dec 9, 2015 17:47:07 GMT -5
I had a feeling this would happen. |
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Dec 9, 2015 17:48:04 GMT -5
I agree but it doesn't make me hate Reigns it makes me the WWE for the way they have handled him. Since WM he has worked his ass off and his in ring improvement is highly noticeable but the bookers are undoing all of his hard work. He isn't an underdog or The Rock during his Raw promo he acted a lot like The Rock and it just did not work. He is meant to be a bad ass so he should rarely talk and just destroy every opponent that stands infront of him.
Also during the Shield days he was the powerhouse and the man who stood out in the group so I really don't buy any of this underdog crap. Daniel Bryan was an underdog and he looked like one too so the booking of him worked but Roman however looks like someone who would destroy you. |
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Post by Miztery on Dec 9, 2015 17:49:12 GMT -5
I agree but it doesn't make me hate Reigns it makes me the WWE for the way they have handled him. Since WM he has worked his ass off and his in ring improvement is highly noticeable but the bookers are undoing all of his hard work. He isn't an underdog or The Rock during his Raw promo he acted a lot like The Rock and it just did not work. He is meant to be a bad ass so he should rarely talk and just destroy every opponent that stands infront of him.
Also during the Shield days he was the powerhouse and the man who stood out in the group so I really don't buy any of this underdog crap. Daniel Bryan was an underdog and he looked like one too so the booking of him worked but Roman however looks like someone who would destroy you. I agree and I probably shouldn't have said I hate Reigns and just that I just hate his character. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2015 17:54:33 GMT -5
He needs to wear some different gear, improve on the mic, and turn heel for me to become a fan of him.
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Post by theMOESIAH on Dec 9, 2015 18:04:44 GMT -5
As far as his mic skills goes, that might be due to creative overscripting promos. And the underdog thing is clearly a cheap attempt to recreate the Daniel Bryan phenomenon.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2015 18:21:49 GMT -5
It's a strange case with him. I actually met Reigns at a signing with Rollins and Ambrose a couple of years ago when the Shield were still together, and found that he was a generally nice person. I like him in that sense.
But lately, especially in the last few months, I've disliked his character more and more to the point where I'm almost sick of seeing him on TV. I don't blame Reigns for it as he's just doing his job, but I blame WWE for actually killing his character rather than building it. It's obvious that their current strategy with him isn't working, but Vince is too stubborn to realize it.
Honestly, all I want is the Reigns back from when he was in the Shield - the silent ass kicker.
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Post by attitudesback on Dec 9, 2015 18:24:01 GMT -5
He can't do promos. Tater Tots was one of the worst go-home segments I've ever seen. He's been in great ring but my god, turn him heel and give him a mouthpiece. You don't book stars to show up their weaknesses. He's booked so poorly most people new to the programme would think he's the heel.
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Post by Suckasays on Dec 9, 2015 18:26:02 GMT -5
My problems with Reigns are simple
1.) He's not the huge muscle bound Batista type of powerhouse that they try to portray him as. He's not a whole lot bigger than someone like HBK. Rhyno made him look small Monday night. So to have his style be some unstoppable force just seems odd to me.
2.) He either needs to figure out personality, and he never will with by the numbers scripting, or pair up with a mouthpiece. The whole "I'm quiet and angry about everything" stuff just doesn't work today.
3.) The attire has to go. He looks like he belongs in a 90's stable like the truth commission. Sure it worked ok for the Shield. But that ship has sailed. He needs to become his own character. The attire and look is off putting. He dresses like someone that is about to gun down a crowd of people. It's just offputting and dull to me.
But those are just my gripes. Everyone had their own ideas.
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Post by Mox on Dec 9, 2015 18:32:33 GMT -5
Overscripted promos is definitely part of it, but he'd be worst off on his own. The gear is a problem. Why can't he just wear a black tank? His moves are Cena level children's crap. He's a mess from a character standpoint. And in the ring I just can't take him seriously. How are you going to make a guy look strong when he looks scared all the time?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2015 18:38:11 GMT -5
I don't view him as an underdog because he wins just about every match that he doesn't get screwed out of. Reigns is athletic, quick, tough, and is literally the best thing WWE has going. I swear I think people complain just to complain. Remember we are also in a PG era as well which quite frankly is why his promos are probably not that great. I would rather have Roman Reigns spearing people instead of Seth Rollins running around with a scared look on his face and calling Human Resources... As for the Tater Tot remark I thought it was funny.
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Post by RV F'N D on Dec 9, 2015 18:39:02 GMT -5
Yeah, the corny jokes are not helping him at all, that was unbelievably brutal to watch, and actually made me glad Sheamus is champ and not Reigns. He may be able to improve on the mic eventually, a mouth piece wouldn't hurt him, but that's easier to do if he's a heel. The Shield attire, music, and crowd entrance need to go, he needs his own identity.
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Dec 9, 2015 18:46:12 GMT -5
Overscripted promos is definitely part of it, but he'd be worst off on his own. The gear is a problem. Why can't he just wear a black tank? His moves are Cena level children's crap. He's a mess from a character standpoint. And in the ring I just can't take him seriously. How are you going to make a guy look strong when he looks scared all the time? Is that not kinda what he wears at the minute? He hasn't wore the Shield gear since before WM31. |
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Post by TurboEddie on Dec 9, 2015 18:59:23 GMT -5
I don't buy Roman Reigns as a main eventer. He's no better than any midcarder.
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Post by marino13 on Dec 9, 2015 19:17:12 GMT -5
Since we are all beating dead horses here, I can't help but to think the best way to get him over as a face is to let him dominate as a heel. Make him the bad ass of few words who runs through anyone in his way. After some time of dominance he will win over the majority of the fans.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2015 19:39:57 GMT -5
Reigns putting on great matches is making me like him more.
I expect the match of Sheamus and Reigns to be awesome despite the bad buildup.
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Post by Planktung on Dec 9, 2015 19:44:06 GMT -5
Reigns isn't money right now, but he can be. By attempting to put him over as a big draw right now, though, WWE are shooting themselves in the foot and corrupting any potential Reigns has at eventually becoming the star they see him as.
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Post by sitruC on Dec 9, 2015 19:54:13 GMT -5
Just too overexposed I guess, but he's improving in the ring a great deal.
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