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Post by The IT Factor on Dec 11, 2015 23:02:44 GMT -5
It doesn't matter what Triple H said. He's not the guy at the helm of creative on the main roster. Nothing, absolutely NOTHING is gonna change, until Vince is gone.
Until Vince "I'd rather have a half-full arena cheering who I want, over a full arena cheering whoever they want" steps down, WWE is never gonna get better.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2015 23:14:04 GMT -5
Lol
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Post by J12 on Dec 11, 2015 23:32:46 GMT -5
In listening to the conference call, I got the feeling more than a couple times that Triple H is very much aware of the frustration and, by and large, probably agrees with a good amount of the criticism. As always, though, for the sake of NXT, and his future, he has to more or less stay out of it. He's not going to badmouth Vince or the company that puts food on his table and allows him to do what he does with NXT. He danced around the question, and he kind of had to.
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Post by c-scope on Dec 12, 2015 0:02:12 GMT -5
Best way to fix a problem is to admit you have one. They've acknowledged it, so let the healing begin. well, hunters acknowledged it, i dont know about Vince. Lol
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Post by Rob on Dec 12, 2015 2:15:15 GMT -5
At this point, The whole product needs to be completely revamped. The set is old and tired, I highly miss the days of unique stage set ups that separate a PPV from a regular Raw/SD. They need to fire every writer they have and start from scratch because its just not working. Vince needs to ing retire, plan and simple.
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Post by The Constable on Dec 12, 2015 3:02:31 GMT -5
Cyanide in Vince's coffee. Then you get Hunter then WWE is ed for sure
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Post by ~*Young $ Money*~ on Dec 12, 2015 9:45:43 GMT -5
it's not like NXT is x-rated or anything though. What investors would be against what NXT is??? Investors are NOT going to want to see the guys who are over to be featured stars. They want established guys like Cena. Why take a risk, when you have a homerun when it comes to profit margins? NXT isnt moving the margins. In fact, its possible that NXT might even run in the red. They can justify the existence as a way to keep the competition away and groom new stars for the future. NXT is also a wrestling show. How many 20 minute promos do we see? How many minutes are spent hyping social media or plugging a network show? WWE owns the network and could EASILY construct a show that mimmicks Raw. They arent pressed for time. NXT is about cutting the fluff and delivering the wrestling. The storylines are told INSIDE the ring and on commentary. NXT can take its time developing stars. There is no rush. In WWE, they need to move at a much quicker pace regardless if that character is ready or not. They are on tighter time constraints. NXT is not. Investors don't give a rat's ass who is on the TV or program as long as they are making money. It is pretty laughable to think other wise. They just worry about that bottom line. The money. WWE can take their time with building the stars also, they just choose not too. There is no reason someone needs to get elevated and thrown into the main event right away. That's part of the problem, is that they don't give the guys on the main roster enough time to build up.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2015 9:58:35 GMT -5
Step One: Get Rid Of Vince McMahon
Step Two: Get rid of Kevin Dunn
Step Three: Hire Adam From Whatculture for the creative team
Step Four: Hire Scott Hall for the creative team
Step Five: Have some of the NXT creative team writing for the main roster shows
Step Six: Watch as the product gets a lot better
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2015 13:08:48 GMT -5
Vince and his buck-toothed buddy need to step aside and let HHH take over.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2015 13:11:05 GMT -5
I'm absolutely astonished people think HHH is going to suddenly fix everything.
The same HHH that the internet has hated for 15 years.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2015 13:13:02 GMT -5
I'm absolutely astonished people think HHH is going to suddenly fix everything. The same HHH that the internet has hated for 15 years. I've always liked HHH, just for the record. Hell of a worker, and he knows the business. NXT is the prime example of this.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2015 13:15:07 GMT -5
I'm absolutely astonished people think HHH is going to suddenly fix everything. The same HHH that the internet has hated for 15 years. I've always liked HHH, just for the record. Hell of a worker, and he knows the business. NXT is the prime example of this. Not singling you out, but I keep reading on various forums to "kick Vince and Dunn out and give it to HHH" and I'm just astonished. All these years I've been on these forums, and HHH was the Antichrist, now people want him running WWE? It's just quite a difference.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2015 13:20:20 GMT -5
I've always liked HHH, just for the record. Hell of a worker, and he knows the business. NXT is the prime example of this. Not singling you out, but I keep reading on various forums to "kick Vince and Dunn out and give it to HHH" and I'm just astonished. All these years I've been on these forums, and HHH was the Antichrist, now people want him running WWE? It's just quite a difference. He's proven that he can give to the business in a positive way from many different aspects. 1) He's still seen as one of the boys, so he connect with the wrestlers on a level that Vince doesn't. 2) He single-handedly brought Sammartino and Warrior back home. He convinced Sting to sign with WWE after so many years of Vince failing to do it. 3) NXT. 4) He listens to the fans. Or at least, he tries too. I'm not denying that Vince is one Hell of a genius, but he's out of touch with what we want to see today. I know you weren't singling me out, but I wanted to get my point across all the same. We good, fam.
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Dec 12, 2015 14:09:24 GMT -5
Hunter will not be able to do with the main roster as he has done with NXT. Even with a person in charge, he will need to answer to investors and have certain image and product to portray. it's not like NXT is x-rated or anything though. What investors would be against what NXT is??? NXT is a one hour niche show for Internet fans on WWE's own network. Raw is a three hour prime time show on mainstream cable.
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Post by The IT Factor on Dec 12, 2015 14:45:38 GMT -5
I'm absolutely astonished people think HHH is going to suddenly fix everything. The same HHH that the internet has hated for 15 years. I think it has to do with the fact that between him, Vince, Dunn, & Stephanie, Haitch is the lesser of 4 evils. I wouldn't exactly call him "the savior of wrestling" like some people have, but he does stand a better chance of fixing WWE, than any of the other three.
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Dec 12, 2015 14:49:24 GMT -5
I'm absolutely astonished people think HHH is going to suddenly fix everything. The same HHH that the internet has hated for 15 years. I think it has to do with the fact that between him, Vince, Dunn, & Stephanie, Haitch is the lesser of 4 evils. I wouldn't exactly call him "the savior of wrestling" like some people have, but he does stand a better chance of fixing WWE, than any of the other three. But he was the one who shovelburied everyone for years with his political almighty booking power even before he was head of creative. He has more power now than ever. Seems like he's the greater of all evils. Or somehow we convince ourselves that he has less power now than he did when he wasn't head of creative.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Dec 13, 2015 18:22:36 GMT -5
Investors are NOT going to want to see the guys who are over to be featured stars. They want established guys like Cena. Why take a risk, when you have a homerun when it comes to profit margins? NXT isnt moving the margins. In fact, its possible that NXT might even run in the red. They can justify the existence as a way to keep the competition away and groom new stars for the future. NXT is also a wrestling show. How many 20 minute promos do we see? How many minutes are spent hyping social media or plugging a network show? WWE owns the network and could EASILY construct a show that mimmicks Raw. They arent pressed for time. NXT is about cutting the fluff and delivering the wrestling. The storylines are told INSIDE the ring and on commentary. NXT can take its time developing stars. There is no rush. In WWE, they need to move at a much quicker pace regardless if that character is ready or not. They are on tighter time constraints. NXT is not. Investors don't give a rat's ass who is on the TV or program as long as they are making money. It is pretty laughable to think other wise. They just worry about that bottom line. The money. WWE can take their time with building the stars also, they just choose not too. There is no reason someone needs to get elevated and thrown into the main event right away. That's part of the problem, is that they don't give the guys on the main roster enough time to build up. And thats what I said. They want the money makers....direct or indirect.
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Post by theMOESIAH on Dec 13, 2015 18:38:27 GMT -5
Paul Heyman needs to be promoted to head of creative immediately.
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Post by Quazimoto on Dec 13, 2015 21:07:32 GMT -5
You know... I feel like the one thing that would make WWE drastically change the product at this point is the USA network pretty well demanding they get more edgy in an effort to boost ratings. I can't imagine they're super thrilled with the falling ratings lately, given that advertisers are already hesitant to buy time on wrestling broadcasts.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2015 22:21:49 GMT -5
Good ol bait and switch What you quoted in the title isn't even what he said I noticed that too
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