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Post by PJ on Dec 14, 2015 16:57:31 GMT -5
In that case everything probably got pushed back a month or two because of the Hogan issue. Even though Austin is a repaint it probably still took time to get the OK to go forward with Austin from both the WWE and Mattel. Especially when these things are planned so far in advance. That's about the only thing that makes sense. But that shouldn't affect DM sting. At least in theory Unless Mattel decided to spread them out. Or if not maybe retailers will hold Sting in their distribution centers longer waiting for the Austin numbers to dwindle. Hopefully though Sting will still be scheduled for a WM release with RSC. Although last year the RR figure was also Hogan and RSC had him before Christmas. Either way I can't wait for the GAB Sting to go up for preorder. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2015 16:59:14 GMT -5
That's about the only thing that makes sense. But that shouldn't affect DM sting. At least in theory Unless Mattel decided to spread them out. Or if not maybe retailers will hold Sting in their distribution centers longer waiting for the Austin numbers to dwindle. Hopefully though Sting will still be scheduled for a WM release with RSC. Although last year the RR figure was also Hogan and RSC had him before Christmas. Either way I can't wait for the GAB Sting to go up for preorder. Lol that's my main concern |
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Post by Dr. Mantis Toboggan MD on Dec 14, 2015 17:17:37 GMT -5
I don't believe that would be the case as they had all 3 Faces of Foley in 2K16. I also doubt the Dude Love would justify a DM spot. What accessories would he have had? However, due to his near conclusion in 2K16, Owen could have been been who they were referring to. Foley's video game contract is different from the rest of his contracts. See Hulk Hogan in All Stars and 2K14 while in TNA. I am not sure what the deal with Foley and WWE is at the moment that they aren't releasing the HoF Cactus Jack, but Foley had signed a new Legends deal late last year, he announced it around the time he showed back up on RAW heading into HiaC. He also was more hesitant to be place back into WWE video games as he didn't like the pay he received for 2K14. I am not sure how he got into All Stars, but for 2K14 WWE had some strange clause that allowed them the rights to use Hogan in a game in the event that the publishing rights changed hands. I think it is a lot more feasible that it would have been Owen. They just released the Owen Documentary and were going to have him in 2K16 which was released late October, so it would have made sense that the DM at the time would have been him as well. Things with Martha fell through, but they still had the rights to release the footage for the documentary. If that doesn't show you that it is less likely, again, what would have Dude Love come with to justify a spot in the DM line as opposed to the HoF or Flashback lines? |
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Post by 'Exotic' Adrian Street on Dec 14, 2015 17:31:20 GMT -5
Foley's video game contract is different from the rest of his contracts. See Hulk Hogan in All Stars and 2K14 while in TNA. I am not sure what the deal with Foley and WWE is at the moment that they aren't releasing the HoF Cactus Jack, but Foley had signed a new Legends deal late last year, he announced it around the time he showed back up on RAW heading into HiaC. He also was more hesitant to be place back into WWE video games as he didn't like the pay he received for 2K14. I am not sure how he got into All Stars, but for 2K14 WWE had some strange clause that allowed them the rights to use Hogan in a game in the event that the publishing rights changed hands. I think it is a lot more feasible that it would have been Owen. They just released the Owen Documentary and were going to have him in 2K16 which was released late October, so it would have made sense that the DM at the time would have been him as well. Things with Martha fell through, but they still had the rights to release the footage for the documentary. If that doesn't show you that it is less likely, again, what would have Dude Love come with to justify a spot in the DM line as opposed to the HoF or Flashback lines? Maybe a tag belt, bandana and deco? Idk. Really what did Razor, Hogan, Taker, Sting come with to justify a DM spot? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2015 17:37:58 GMT -5
Speaking of replacement DMs. Given the HOF Cactus situation, I'm thinking Undertaker was a replacement for Dude Love. Bill said they were working on a guy the didn't end up having the rights to. Taker was shown when cactus was. If the knew he couldnt be a dm, probably wouldnt of tried for hof. Im going to assume the dm was piper |
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Post by POOR-ly Cuyler on Dec 14, 2015 17:43:22 GMT -5
Speaking of replacement DMs. Given the HOF Cactus situation, I'm thinking Undertaker was a replacement for Dude Love. Bill said they were working on a guy the didn't end up having the rights to. Taker was shown when cactus was. If the knew he couldnt be a dm, probably wouldnt of tried for hof. Im going to assume the dm was piper Id guess Piper or Owen. The Piper podcast thing and death, but doesnt time right. Owen because of the DVD that finally happened, which just came out recently like Taker. Bill might have gotten giddy and started Owen after DVD news came out |
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Post by cableV on Dec 14, 2015 17:45:54 GMT -5
Foley's video game contract is different from the rest of his contracts. See Hulk Hogan in All Stars and 2K14 while in TNA. I am not sure what the deal with Foley and WWE is at the moment that they aren't releasing the HoF Cactus Jack, but Foley had signed a new Legends deal late last year, he announced it around the time he showed back up on RAW heading into HiaC. He also was more hesitant to be place back into WWE video games as he didn't like the pay he received for 2K14. I am not sure how he got into All Stars, but for 2K14 WWE had some strange clause that allowed them the rights to use Hogan in a game in the event that the publishing rights changed hands. I think it is a lot more feasible that it would have been Owen. They just released the Owen Documentary and were going to have him in 2K16 which was released late October, so it would have made sense that the DM at the time would have been him as well. Things with Martha fell through, but they still had the rights to release the footage for the documentary. If that doesn't show you that it is less likely, again, what would have Dude Love come with to justify a spot in the DM line as opposed to the HoF or Flashback lines? As of today I have not been told I have the rights to make an Owen. MDT knew they didn't have the rights to Owen and wouldn't have started working on him. They thought they had the rights to Foley and all his 'faces', but do not. Or did not at the time. Don't forget about the Santa Foley render that we saw. There were multiple Foley's in development. As for accessories, he would have had as many as Hogan and Razor and a more color demanding attire. Tie dyed shirt, sunglasses, bandanna/headband and tag belt. I'm not trying to convince anyone it was Dude Love, I just think it's a strong possibility knowing what we do now. |
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Post by cableV on Dec 14, 2015 17:49:59 GMT -5
Speaking of replacement DMs. Given the HOF Cactus situation, I'm thinking Undertaker was a replacement for Dude Love. Bill said they were working on a guy the didn't end up having the rights to. Taker was shown when cactus was. If the knew he couldnt be a dm, probably wouldnt of tried for hof. Im going to assume the dm was piper Was Cactus shown by Mattel or just the digital images by WWE.com? If so, that's a good point. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2015 18:17:36 GMT -5
Taker was shown when cactus was. If the knew he couldnt be a dm, probably wouldnt of tried for hof. Im going to assume the dm was piper Id guess Piper or Owen. The Piper podcast thing and death, but doesnt time right. Owen because of the DVD that finally happened, which just came out recently like Taker. Bill might have gotten giddy and started Owen after DVD news came out I would of hoped for owen. Only reason i say piper is because thats when the contract issue became news and then his death. Still holding out for owen |
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Post by PJ on Dec 14, 2015 18:21:46 GMT -5
Taker was shown when cactus was. If the knew he couldnt be a dm, probably wouldnt of tried for hof. Im going to assume the dm was piper Id guess Piper or Owen. The Piper podcast thing and death, but doesnt time right. Owen because of the DVD that finally happened, which just came out recently like Taker. Bill might have gotten giddy and started Owen after DVD news came out Why would he have done that thought? Everyone knew (at least Mattel, WWE, Martha) the DVD didn't mean a figure. The DVD was allowed because the WWE won their case with Martha to use their media library. But things outside of their media footage (figures...etc) Martha would still have to sign off on and that isn't ever happening. |
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Post by POOR-ly Cuyler on Dec 14, 2015 18:24:50 GMT -5
Id guess Piper or Owen. The Piper podcast thing and death, but doesnt time right. Owen because of the DVD that finally happened, which just came out recently like Taker. Bill might have gotten giddy and started Owen after DVD news came out Why would he have done that thought? Everyone knew (at least Mattel, WWE, Martha) the DVD didn't mean a figure. The DVD was allowed because the WWE won their case with Martha to use their media library. But things outside of their media footage (figures...etc) Martha would still have to sign off on and that isn't ever happening. Idk, and we dont know for sure. Just that the DVD news came end of spring/begin of summer and I guess I still dont know if thats long enough to get a new elite |
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Post by WCWThunderRosa on Dec 14, 2015 18:30:00 GMT -5
Speaking of replacement DMs. Given the HOF Cactus situation, I'm thinking Undertaker was a replacement for Dude Love. Bill said they were working on a guy the didn't end up having the rights to. Taker was shown when cactus was. If the knew he couldnt be a dm, probably wouldnt of tried for hof. Im going to assume the dm was piper Cactus was not shown when Taker was. Taker was shown in July. Cactus' render showed up in October. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2015 18:38:50 GMT -5
Unless the scheduling has switched to march/June/sept/Dec?
Would make sense to have a big new DM coming out just before Xmas next year to drive sales up as I'm guessing ministry Taker didn't do so well (I loved it though) and won't set tills alight over this Xmas period due to coming out a while back now so demand will have petered out by Xmas, I'd have thought anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2015 23:02:11 GMT -5
Taker was shown when cactus was. If the knew he couldnt be a dm, probably wouldnt of tried for hof. Im going to assume the dm was piper Cactus was not shown when Taker was. Taker was shown in July. Cactus' render showed up in October. I was wrong about the date. But proves that he couldnt of been the dm |
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Post by WCWThunderRosa on Dec 14, 2015 23:38:53 GMT -5
Cactus was not shown when Taker was. Taker was shown in July. Cactus' render showed up in October. I was wrong about the date. But proves that he couldnt of been the dm Not really. The render of Cactus Jack was released by accident. |
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Post by kennyw86 on Dec 15, 2015 0:04:45 GMT -5
I am not sure what the deal with Foley and WWE is at the moment that they aren't releasing the HoF Cactus Jack, but Foley had signed a new Legends deal late last year, he announced it around the time he showed back up on RAW heading into HiaC. He also was more hesitant to be place back into WWE video games as he didn't like the pay he received for 2K14. I am not sure how he got into All Stars, but for 2K14 WWE had some strange clause that allowed them the rights to use Hogan in a game in the event that the publishing rights changed hands. I think it is a lot more feasible that it would have been Owen. They just released the Owen Documentary and were going to have him in 2K16 which was released late October, so it would have made sense that the DM at the time would have been him as well. Things with Martha fell through, but they still had the rights to release the footage for the documentary. If that doesn't show you that it is less likely, again, what would have Dude Love come with to justify a spot in the DM line as opposed to the HoF or Flashback lines? Maybe a tag belt, bandana and deco? Idk. Really what did Razor, Hogan, Taker, Sting come with to justify a DM spot? This. These new dms are great, but none have been worth the extra money from an elite. Dm cena had 2 belts, 2 cloth shirts, and the chain necklace. None of the new ones have come close. |
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Post by hellojoeivers on Dec 15, 2015 5:31:46 GMT -5
Maybe a tag belt, bandana and deco? Idk. Really what did Razor, Hogan, Taker, Sting come with to justify a DM spot? This. These new dms are great, but none have been worth the extra money from an elite. Dm cena had 2 belts, 2 cloth shirts, and the chain necklace. None of the new ones have come close. I'm sure Bill mentioned in a Q&A that sometimes they eat into the budget just to get the rights to certain wrestlers (when you think that most of the recent DM's have been first time figures, kind of makes sense) I could have dreamed that though Anyway, yeah, chronologically speaking, it looks like due to the reshuffling, they could just be bumping everything back a few months and skipping the Royal Rumble figure, then resuming around Wrestlemania with Austin |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2015 6:50:44 GMT -5
I was wrong about the date. But proves that he couldnt of been the dm Not really. The render of Cactus Jack was released by accident. Good god.. |
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Post by jabird27 on Dec 15, 2015 7:24:10 GMT -5
Let's also remember guys that the last two or three Defining Moments figures all hit retail locations before RSC got their initial shipment. With Undertaker and Sting, they arrived nearly a month early at retail.
Why RSC has gotten their orders late on this series, who knows.
BUT my point is that I fully expect this new DM Austin to pop up around late, late January, and mid to late February.
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Post by 'Exotic' Adrian Street on Dec 15, 2015 8:12:48 GMT -5
This. These new dms are great, but none have been worth the extra money from an elite. Dm cena had 2 belts, 2 cloth shirts, and the chain necklace. None of the new ones have come close. I'm sure Bill mentioned in a Q&A that sometimes they eat into the budget just to get the rights to certain wrestlers (when you think that most of the recent DM's have been first time figures, kind of makes sense) I could have dreamed that though Anyway, yeah, chronologically speaking, it looks like due to the reshuffling, they could just be bumping everything back a few months and skipping the Royal Rumble figure, then resuming around Wrestlemania with Austin I'm not disagreeing with you because I don't keep up with it like a lot of people on here but, I don't know how it would eat into their budget to get the rights to these people. They only do anybody anymore if they have a Legends deal with WWE. Or at least that's what I've read over, and over and over Regardless I have bought 2 of every one of the newer DM's and hope to continue to do so, whether they are a regular Elite price or the inflated DM price |
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