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Post by Todd Pettengill on Dec 15, 2015 0:07:14 GMT -5
WWE to all the people who say they aren't watching anymore....  |
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Post by SodaGuy on Dec 15, 2015 0:07:28 GMT -5
Don't forget Seth. And KO. And Cesaro. Kevin owens wasn't on the main roster so he is out Cesaro has put on great preformaces but overall the matches haven't been consistently good his opponents drag them down And I love Seth and his title run but in ring wise he hasn't been putting consistent good matches since mania How is Kevin Owens "out" when he fits into your "post-Wrestlemania 31" time frame.. |
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Post by cmiller79 on Dec 15, 2015 0:08:15 GMT -5
I still stand behind what I said cena has been having some great matches but there have been a few that weren't that good Cesaro, Owens, and Rollins have had a lot.of great matches this year. a couple post below the one you posted above I gave my reasoning |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2015 0:08:18 GMT -5
I feel ya but it's honestly hard to take you seriously based off what I've seen you post about Sheamus. Lol I'm only kidding and Assuming that's a gimmick you've got, as far as "the state of the wwe" I think it sucks. I think it has sucked in most part for a good while. Years actually. I haven't enjoyed a full WWE show except for WrestleMania or Raw 1000 since probably 2007-8. That's just me though. There is horrible sh*t they run weekly and have done so in a lackadaisical manner for years. Even during the mid-2000's and the AE, there were sh*t segments and angles. Hell some of the worst wrestling matches I have ever seen came from wrestling's most popular era. The problem is the complete overexposure. Of the product. The backstage. The politics. Their booking is booty. Straight. Up. Booty. Reigns isn't the solution to all this trash. But he damn sure isn't the problem. The problem is WWE's cluelessness. People love to act like the people who hate on the product are the problem.. but just be honest and look at the ratings. They suck and are constantly decreasing (long before Sheamus was even in the title picture). If Stone Cold was coming into the company today.. do you think he'd have the kind of career now that he actually had? No chance. And that's a major problem.. they're holding their talent back. This is a golden era of talent.. the best ever in my honest opinion. And yet the actual quality of the product is the worst in my lifetime.. things don't add up. I'm with you on the talent. They've got enough talent to go 15 years with several main event players. But, they don't lol |
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Post by weaseltv on Dec 15, 2015 0:09:00 GMT -5
How did this place turn on roman so damn quick? He was the ONLY person since w.m 31 that has been putting on good matches on a CONSISTENT basis Sure his promos have been lacking but this guys in ring work has improved so much since he won the rumble last year its crazy Its definatly his time hell his time was at s.s but by having sheamus cash in they got another month of programming out of it we'll... as far as... Entertainment... I've always liked the New Day and Bray Wyatt more than anything Reigns has done over the past year... and Wyatt hasn't won anything... And... I like Owens too... The thing is.. in this day and age, there are so many people that can do the physical "wrestling" piece.... There's far less that are more of the complete package of wrestling and speaking... Here's an example - Would Reigns be able to pull off what Bray Wyatt has done on the mic? Could he do what the New Day is doing? If Wyatt or one of the New Day wrestles against Reigns would it be a bad wrestling match because of Wyatt or one of the New Day? |
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Post by ThugSuperstar on Dec 15, 2015 0:09:03 GMT -5
WWE to all the people who say they aren't watching anymore.... Except if they continue to keep on doing what they're doing, a time eventually is going to come when they won't be around anymore... |
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Post by Andrewghbk99 on Dec 15, 2015 0:09:28 GMT -5
And it's sad to see so many people complain about the business and ratings etc. your not there running it. You don't know what they have to go through everyday. It's a lot of pressure and a lot more guidelines and rules that that have to b followed. Give them a break. Even in the worst of times your suppose have your friends back, in this case wwe, and a lot of people are turning their backs bc something they see they don't like. Give me a break
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Post by cmiller79 on Dec 15, 2015 0:09:33 GMT -5
Kevin owens wasn't on the main roster so he is out Cesaro has put on great preformaces but overall the matches haven't been consistently good his opponents drag them down And I love Seth and his title run but in ring wise he hasn't been putting consistent good matches since mania How is Kevin Owens "out" when he fits into your "post-Wrestlemania 31" time frame.. I'm going from if they were on the mania card or main roster during mania |
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Post by Andrewghbk99 on Dec 15, 2015 0:09:48 GMT -5
And it's sad to see so many people complain about the business and ratings etc. your not there running it. You don't know what they have to go through everyday. It's a lot of pressure and a lot more guidelines and rules that that have to b followed. Give them a break. Even in the worst of times your suppose have your friends back, in this case wwe, and a lot of people are turning their backs bc something they see they don't like. Give me a break
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Post by marino13 on Dec 15, 2015 0:10:33 GMT -5
If you watched it and hated it, then I would respect that and at least understand you have a valid opinion. But if you didn't watch, then you comments have no merit. I don't understand what the difference is. If I watched the match then all of my opinions would still be the same. Reigns won in ridiculous fashion the same way Cena has for the past ten years; you've seen one, you've seen 'em all. Big difference. Would you read a film critic's review if he admitted he didn't watch the movie? Would you listen to a sportscaster if they weren't watching the game? |
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Post by Irish Wrestling Entertainment on Dec 15, 2015 0:11:41 GMT -5
The problem is WWE's cluelessness. People love to act like the people who hate on the product are the problem.. but just be honest and look at the ratings. They suck and are constantly decreasing (long before Sheamus was even in the title picture). If Stone Cold was coming into the company today.. do you think he'd have the kind of career now that he actually had? No chance. And that's a major problem.. they're holding their talent back. This is a golden era of talent.. the best ever in my honest opinion. And yet the actual quality of the product is the worst in my lifetime.. things don't add up. I'm with you on the talent. They've got enough talent to go 15 years with several main event players. But, they don't lol To be honest, the Stone Cold thing would be an interesting discussion. I think a lot of people might say that he's just so talented that he'd become 'the guy' regardless.. but I honestly think that could be naivety. And if we can conclude or even suggest that (arguably) the most entertaining wrestler of all time wouldn't be as entertaining in the current era.. we have to first, understand why that is and then we can get to the root of the problem. Meh.. it's just disheartening to see them constantly make the same mistakes, I guess. |
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Post by Todd Pettengill on Dec 15, 2015 0:11:51 GMT -5
WWE to all the people who say they aren't watching anymore.... Except if they continue to keep on doing what they're doing, a time eventually is going to come when they won't be around anymore... They will always be around. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2015 0:12:28 GMT -5
Except if they continue to keep on doing what they're doing, a time eventually is going to come when they won't be around anymore... They will always be around. They're not going anywhere. Not because of none champion. |
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Post by cmiller79 on Dec 15, 2015 0:12:38 GMT -5
I don't understand what the difference is. If I watched the match then all of my opinions would still be the same. Reigns won in ridiculous fashion the same way Cena has for the past ten years; you've seen one, you've seen 'em all. Big difference. Would you read a film critic's review if he admitted he didn't watch the movie? Would you listen to a sportscaster if they weren't watching the game? nope cause they would only be going off what someone else told them |
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Post by ThugSuperstar on Dec 15, 2015 0:12:59 GMT -5
I don't understand what the difference is. If I watched the match then all of my opinions would still be the same. Reigns won in ridiculous fashion the same way Cena has for the past ten years; you've seen one, you've seen 'em all. Big difference. Would you read a film critic's review if he admitted he didn't watch the movie? Would you listen to a sportscaster if they weren't watching the game? If that film they reviewed was the exact same movie that's already been released multiple times before in the past, then of course. |
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Post by SodaGuy on Dec 15, 2015 0:13:32 GMT -5
How is Kevin Owens "out" when he fits into your "post-Wrestlemania 31" time frame.. I'm going from if they were on the mania card R-Truth counts on the "most consistent wrestler since Wrestlemania 31" guideline but Kevin Owens does not. Gotcha.. |
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Post by Mark Martin on Dec 15, 2015 0:13:49 GMT -5
Was Paige even on tonight or did I miss her while watching Family Feud?
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Post by Miztery on Dec 15, 2015 0:13:53 GMT -5
It looks like it's going to end up being Cena vs Reigns. That's not even that bad. What is bad is that we'll probably have to sit through another Bray Wyatt vs Undertaker feud.
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Post by Irish Wrestling Entertainment on Dec 15, 2015 0:16:01 GMT -5
WWE to all the people who say they aren't watching anymore....  Not sure how this opinion still gets thrown about when it's quite clear that viewers ARE turning off. Expect the 2016 figure on that graph to be close to 1997. |
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Post by cmiller79 on Dec 15, 2015 0:16:02 GMT -5
I'm going from if they were on the mania card R-Truth counts on the "most consistent wrestler since Wrestlemania 31" guideline but Kevin Owens does not. Gotcha.. yeah he would count but he hasn't been putting on good matches since then so no reason to discuss him |
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