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Post by Joey Cush on Jan 24, 2016 23:58:37 GMT -5
I'm probably in the minority here but I thought the Rumble match was terrible.
- Reigns eliminating Rusev in a minute made little to no sense. Would have liked to have seen either a big superstar at #2 or if AJ had to be 3, then Curtis Axel at 2. - Camera on Reigns face during AJs monumental debut was vintage WWE. - AJs zero offense was terrible. He was made out to be a nobody essentially after his entrance ended. Though I dig Owens eliminating AJ - With that, dont set up Owens Vs Styles and Owens Vs Zayne in the same match because both could/should be long term programs. Now they have to choose for Mania. - The Reigns beatdown made no sense. drag him Under the ropes, beat him up so bad he cant move. Then to bring a stretcher out and bring him to the back where he is for remainder of match is not something your top babyface champion should be doing. Thats a recipe for a complete disaster, which it was. - Lesnar/Wyatts stuff was fine, didnt see this match happening at all until Monday night but I have no complaints. - HHH return was obvious the second Reigns made his "return" and just killed the rest of the match for me, even more-so than before.
I thought Roman Reigns Vs Triple H needed to happen at WrestleMania, to give Reigns his big singles win at Mania. There was so much to this story that the title was NOT needed, almost seems secondary to the feud now. Reigns brutally attacked Triple H at TLC and HHH returns and costs Reigns the WWE title. Thats all you really need.
I was hoping the WWE Championship would be used for a different program, some other guys but with the injuries sustained to so many guys I suppose they had no choice. But they seem pleased with continuing this Reigns mega push regardless
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Post by Chip on Jan 24, 2016 23:58:48 GMT -5
I love Triple H the office guy but Ive been over Triple H the wrestler for about 10 years now. My feels pretty much summed up... its not like he came in at #6 or even #20 he came out right at the end, he's not a crippled old man. the entire story made perfect sense. the end game is to get Reigns over and they are putting more effort into than than anything they've done the last 5 years or so
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2016 23:59:23 GMT -5
Lol.. Triple h has a new shirt also. I wonder how many people will buy it lmao
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Post by Kanenite on Jan 24, 2016 23:59:42 GMT -5
Nice to see it from that angle so we could see the Titantron and in the process see what the crowd seen. The camera work just showing Reigns' face was kinda weird.
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Post by attitudesback on Jan 25, 2016 0:00:51 GMT -5
I did find bits of it baffling logically. Think about it;
- Wyatt's eliminating Brock. Surely they could've just done this for everyone and had Bray win the title. - Why didn't the LON just eliminate Reigns there and then?
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Post by HVMMONS on Jan 25, 2016 0:02:32 GMT -5
So does that mean since Curtis Axel was never eliminated from the 2015 Royal Rumble that AJ Styles is headed to Wrestlemania?!
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Post by Rob on Jan 25, 2016 0:03:27 GMT -5
Now i see why Reigns was pulled out of the match mid way, Dude was legit pouring sweat and gassed out literally a minute into the Rumble when AJ came out.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2016 0:03:52 GMT -5
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Post by #DI-WHY? on Jan 25, 2016 0:06:09 GMT -5
Styles shirt is sold out
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Post by marino13 on Jan 25, 2016 0:06:55 GMT -5
You're like, 0-15 on use of the word bury tonight. Easily defeating younger talent so Hunter could win the title, strictly with the sole purpose of dropping it to Roman at Mania because of the company's desperateness to get him over is pretty much the perfect example of "burying." Bray, Ziggler, Ambrose, Zayn, Neville, etc were all easily discarded by a 45-year-old who hasn't wrestled in nearly a year. For anybody who complains about Taker killing The Wyatt Family, what happened tonight was 10x worse. They literally sacrificed half their roster in an effort to put Hunter over tonight, and Roman over at Mania. Luke Harper eliminated Neville. And Strowman eliminated Zayn. But I assume you didn't watch and just read about it afterwards, so we'll let your ignorance pass.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2016 0:10:24 GMT -5
Styles shirt is sold out That's a good thing!
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Post by ThugSuperstar on Jan 25, 2016 0:10:48 GMT -5
Easily defeating younger talent so Hunter could win the title, strictly with the sole purpose of dropping it to Roman at Mania because of the company's desperateness to get him over is pretty much the perfect example of "burying." Oh, so the reason you use the term so poorly is because you don't understand it. Burying is what happened to Zack Ryder. He was destroyed to the point of no return. Who from this match came out looking worse than when they went in? Or even better yet, who did HHH bury exactly? - Bray got eliminated by two men - He tossed out Reigns, but will lose to him clean so Reigns isn't buried - Ambrose went evenly back and forth with him until HHH did one thing to get rid of him None of those guys are in a situation where they were booked to look like garbage. I'm watching some of the match right now. As soon as Triple Ego comes into the ring, the first thing he does is easily Pedigree Ziggler and discard him like yesterday's trash. And then Ambrose hit him with about a hundred different punches, kicks, etc only for him to eliminate Ambrose with a knee and a ridiculous looking back body drop from the apron to the outside of the ring. Bray's only elimination came with three other guys helping him, and he's now going to go onto Wrestlemania to get fed to Lesnar. The company would rather make half their roster look like complete fools just to attempt once again to put over Reigns and Wrestlemania. If you don't see a problem with that, then I don't know what we're discussing here.
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Post by #DI-WHY? on Jan 25, 2016 0:11:07 GMT -5
Styles shirt is sold out That's a good thing! It really is, but I really wanted one xD
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Post by ThugSuperstar on Jan 25, 2016 0:11:52 GMT -5
Easily defeating younger talent so Hunter could win the title, strictly with the sole purpose of dropping it to Roman at Mania because of the company's desperateness to get him over is pretty much the perfect example of "burying." Bray, Ziggler, Ambrose, Zayn, Neville, etc were all easily discarded by a 45-year-old who hasn't wrestled in nearly a year. For anybody who complains about Taker killing The Wyatt Family, what happened tonight was 10x worse. They literally sacrificed half their roster in an effort to put Hunter over tonight, and Roman over at Mania. Luke Harper eliminated Neville. And Strowman eliminated Zayn. But I assume you didn't watch and just read about it afterwards, so we'll let your ignorance pass. Regardless of who eliminated them, the end result was still the same.
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Post by J12 on Jan 25, 2016 0:12:29 GMT -5
The stubbornness of this company never ceases to amaze. Roman Reigns is not over. People don't care about him. Putting him against Triple H in the main event of Wrestlemania isn't going to change that. It isn't going to create a new star. It's going to make people cheer Triple H. Just like they did tonight. Just like they've done with virtually everyone Reigns has faced.
The Roman Reigns experiment has failed. And it will continue to fail.
And Triple H is WWE Champion in 2016, because of course he is.
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Post by TurboEddie on Jan 25, 2016 0:13:05 GMT -5
Now that was a good Royal Rumble!
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Post by Nivro™ on Jan 25, 2016 0:13:13 GMT -5
I love Triple H the office guy but Ive been over Triple H the wrestler for about 10 years now. My feels pretty much summed up... its not like he came in at #6 or even #20 he came out right at the end, he's not a crippled old man. the entire story made perfect sense. the end game is to get Reigns over and they are putting more effort into than than anything they've done the last 5 years or so Im not saying he buried the roster but him winning the Rumble & the title is completely unnecessary. You cant force fans to like someone. There is no storyline that is going to put Reigns over like they want. Especially involving Triple H. The problem promoters have always had is they try to "force" things. The fans choose who's over and who's not. I like Reigns, I dont mind Reigns as Champion but you're not going to get him over by force. It just simply doesnt work that way. The fans chose Hogan. The fans chose Austin. The fans even chose Cena but right now the fans are choosing guys like Seth Rollins (who I realize is injured), Dean Ambrose, Kevin Owens, Brock Lesnar and yes even Heath Slater (ok I kid on that one), yet they're putting fans in the "you'll watch it, you'll take it and you'll like it" category.
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Post by marino13 on Jan 25, 2016 0:13:37 GMT -5
Luke Harper eliminated Neville. And Strowman eliminated Zayn. But I assume you didn't watch and just read about it afterwards, so we'll let your ignorance pass. Regardless of who eliminated them, the end result was still the same. Well yeah, I know. The end result is you spew nonsense much more often than not. We got that already.
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Post by Chip on Jan 25, 2016 0:13:59 GMT -5
The pre-show was hot garbage and just goes to show you the mess this company creates. You have Sandow who is MORE OVER THAN EVERYONE ELSE IN THE RING once again do nothing and go nowhere. So instead you get Swagger and Henry botching the end, getting in the rumble and getting tossed both a combined 30 seconds of time in the match. Now hindsight, if it was sandow people would be pissed, but instead you could've had Sandow just last a little while like Titus or even Kofi. But whatever, they dont care about him because he's over.
Ambrose/Owens proved why the fans are right and Vince & Co are completely wrong. 2 guys who are talented, beating the crapout of each other for a title they both want. They delivered on every aspect. It was a perfect wrestling match, loved it. The crowd was in at every move, the guys brought some cool spots and the overall match was just great.
New Day is fantastic. Just everything. They are SO entertaining. The Usos are just average, we really need some freh teams and let the Usos go Us-o-crazy on someone else. Enough of Usos vs New Day. The match was fine, nothing special but Big E shined for sure.
Del Rio & Kalisto just don't have real good chemistry. And again, what was the point of giving Kalisto the US title already? I hated it. Him winning was fine, but imagine if THAT was his first win, after an actual build. Not win the title, lose the title, win the title. This 50/50 booking is AWFUL.
As for the Rumble itself, I loved it. From AJ coming out (holy balls what a pop, and of course the camera HAD to stay focused on Reigns because Reigns) and Zayn's surprise entrant. It was just a very fun Rumble overall. They actually created a lot of potential matchups which is what the belly of a rumble is supposed to be, and props to Jeridad for lasting a long time, looking like a legit threat. That was great. Lesnar murdering Strowman was a sight. I love the idea of Lesnar vs Wyatts, and I don't even know why. I just do. Owens throwing AJ out was PERFECT. His heel heat is at an all time high, he was the right man to do it by far and away and the idea of those two clashing at Wrestlemania is goosebump worthy
Everything about the rumble was great, except for Golden Boy #2. The entire company is giving everything to Reigns and I absolutely hate it. You have 5-6 guys who legitimately got mega reactions from the crowd, and your champion, your savior, your greatest of all time, got mercilessly booed at every chance, and the pop when he was thrown out was bigger than almost any other of the night (including his amazing overcoming the odds come back) Him being taken out like that, getting to sprint back into the match later on was complete horse shit, and again it's plain and simple...this company is going to FORCE Roman Reigns into the #1 star whether we like it or not, and they are literally doing everything they can to make us all just finally say "ok, you win, i give up, YAY REIGNS!"
They had to put the WWE Title on TRIPLE H in 2016 because they know that people will backlash against it so hard they will subtly start loving and cheering Reigns. Even though Dean Ambrose had the crowd on the edge of their seat as one of the final 2. In one match the entire thing was exposed. Reigns is NOT over. Reigns is the guy the company is making over and everyone else is an afterthought.
The story is going to play out, probably force Reigns into a Chamber match at Fastlane to determine the #1 contender, and he'll be first out of the pod, then shut-up & kick-ass to the main event of Wrestlemania where he will overcome the odds and superman punch Vince, Steph, Shane, Linda, and Triple H while winning his THIRD WWE TITLE and carrying the company on his shoulders for the next 5-8 years. This is what they want This is what they are going to do
Everything else is just filler. And they are going to beat us all into submission until we just accept Reigns as our savior king greatest of all time.
But overall they pulled an entertaining show tonight so for the most part I'm pretty happy. I'm definitely looking forward to RAW tomorrow.
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Post by Mr Angry Cena on Jan 25, 2016 0:15:29 GMT -5
Great show.
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