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Post by Chip on Feb 5, 2016 18:16:42 GMT -5
I'm prefacing this entire thing by saying: this is NOT a bitch-fest or bashing thread.
I was looking at my Elite collection the other day and I realized something random. R-Truth hasn't had an Elite figure since series 15. We are on Elite 41.
Then I looked at the last few Elite sets...
38- Bradshaw, Faarooq, Macho Man 39- Sid, Godfather, Bulldog 40- Umaga, Rude, IRS 41- Lita, Kid, Funk
So my discussion point is this: does it seems like we have been getting an "overload" of Flashbacks. While this is awesome, because the names have been great, the figures have been great and I LOVE Flashbacks/Legends....
How many guys ON THE ROSTER are still waiting for an updated Elite? Or how about the fact that Titus O'Neil and Darren Young STILL don't have Elites at all?
I know Mattel is Flashback-heavy, we all love 'em. But Is it getting to the point where Flashbacks & Legends are taking over the Elite Line? Why not just bring back Legends sets...call it Flashbacks and release a full set of 'em? Or is there another thing they could do?
Again, this is merely a discussion about Flashbacks, not a complaint. Curious as to people's thoughts
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Post by Mark Martin on Feb 5, 2016 18:19:14 GMT -5
The more flashbacks, the better for me personally but I can completely understand if someone who collects the current product is annoyed at the amount of flashbacks we've been getting per series.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2016 18:23:07 GMT -5
Not enough main roster guys could sell well enough anymore. Not a thick enough roster or enough attire changes to warrant it. There'd be a reigns and cena in every series.
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Post by Nivro™ on Feb 5, 2016 18:23:32 GMT -5
I would venture to guess that some of the guys (like R Truth) really havent done anything relevant on WWE TV to get into the Elite line. Most of the guys that have been on RAW/SD every week have had figures made. Now true sometimes they're not always up to date because of attire changes & amount of time it takes to get a figure out (lookin at you Dolph Ziggler), if you're on TV week to week...you tend to get figures (except for tag teams)
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Post by ZDB on Feb 5, 2016 18:24:15 GMT -5
Half flashback and half current or 2 flashback/ 4 current sounds good to me
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Post by PattyRickRick on Feb 5, 2016 18:27:13 GMT -5
I completely agree. Especially since we're going to run out of flashbacks that can be made.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2016 18:29:53 GMT -5
Wholeheartedly disagree. There are not enough characters on the roster to fill out all the slots. It's working fine how it is
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Post by BROKEN on Feb 5, 2016 18:33:24 GMT -5
I want PTP elites
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Post by FWE on Feb 5, 2016 18:34:38 GMT -5
I am someone who collects the current product and is annoyed at the amount of flashbacks we've been getting per series. although, it saves me a lot of money. besides guys like dolph which his new elite was a long overdue, i have almost everybody in elite form as a figure im pretty happy with. (i say almost because i dont count guys who dont appear on tv and are in the superstars page for no reason like kyle edwards or whatever).
i dont mind keeping tag teams basics tho
i think the best solution is making it 2 fb to 4 currents. fb collectors have the hof line, some other exclusive lines, the dm line, and the current roster only have the elite line (in regards to elites)..
i wouldnt kill for an elite ascension and ptp but it could be nice to get them. i agree truth needs a new elite, as well as cesaro (with the arms bands and knee pads), tyler breeze\neville\owens\strowman will get elites but i need them asap. we need updated new day elites, jack swagger with a bigger torso, dudleyz, RUSEVVVV, and that's about it
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Post by PJ on Feb 5, 2016 18:34:43 GMT -5
Why don't they have two separate lines? Because if they were releasing both simultaneously it would probably kill the lines because of over saturation. Stores would have to move double the amount of figures in the same amount of time. This way everyone gets something they like without worrying about pegwarmers stopping new waves hitting the stores. People complain now because pegwarmers cause stores to pass on waves, because the distribution centers aren't shipping their stores the new product until the inventory hits a certain count. Now if they doubles the product the stores wouldn't be cleared out in time for the next waves.
Plus the guys that haven't had Elites yet probably won't ever because Mattel/WWE/retails feel it would be risky for them to release them because they don't have the appeal to warrant a $21+ figure when a $10 basic would suffice.
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Post by mikey1974 on Feb 5, 2016 18:34:43 GMT -5
while I am primarily a FB/Legends-style collector, I admit 3 of them per wave might be a bit much. I would be fine if they went back to 2 per wave. We have RSC exclusives, HOF, and other means to pick up the slack.
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Post by thelostweekend on Feb 5, 2016 18:36:11 GMT -5
WWE's insistence on making sure no one ever gets too over via the even-Steven style of booking has made is so that most of the roster just isn't over despite being probably the most athletically gifted it's ever been. I'd rather see a Flashback than that slot used on someone like R-Truth, who will almost definitely shelf warm even though he hasn't had an Elite in years.
Truth is, not every main roster guy really NEEDS an Elite or is popular enough where a $20 figure of them is going to do much more than shelf warm.
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Post by Figure kingdom on Feb 5, 2016 18:36:21 GMT -5
How many more Miz and Dolph Ziggler does one need? It seems like most main roster guys has an elite. Most of the classic characters have yet to receive an action figure.
I would quit collecting if it was nothing but current roster figures out tbh.
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Post by venomeratt on Feb 5, 2016 18:40:08 GMT -5
I think we'd run out of current roster before flashbacks. Im more interested in flashbacks/new faces.
The trend i see around is alot of the fans of current roster are kids, and kids tend to get the basics because their parents can get them cheaper.
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Post by qdogg on Feb 5, 2016 18:41:32 GMT -5
The line has taken a interesting turn. In 2013 it did not look like we would be getting a lot of future legends. and I dont think I envisioned the Target singles and 4 packs or the return of DM, now we are getting legend 2 packs agqain and 3 or so flashbacks every elite wave. Pretty amazing.
The current roster has been dull too lately. Not a lot worthy of expensive Elite figures. I don't think midcard current roster tags need or deserve expensive Elite's. I prefer them in BP form. Really only Stardust and the Diva figures stood out to me and it seems the more interesting characters are in nxt.
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Post by 'Exotic' Adrian Street on Feb 5, 2016 18:42:39 GMT -5
If they ever make PTP Elites we will definitely be able to find them easily because they will be huge shelf warmers.
I'm with most of these other people. There isn't enough relevant current characters to stop being so Flashback heavy. And the people that are relevant seem to find there way into the Elite line
I love Flashbacks
I kind of like current roster mid carders
So I say keep it like it has been since E38
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Post by poindizzle on Feb 5, 2016 18:44:10 GMT -5
I am hearing both sides of this argument and neither are wrong. It's a tough spot to be in. R-Truth not having a new elite is egregious. His latest headscan is one of the greatest ever made by mattel and the new tattoos would look great. As it is his last fee basics have left off some of the new ink presumably due to budget.
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Post by East Coast on Feb 5, 2016 18:44:43 GMT -5
the amount of flashbacks is pretty much the same as its always been. Ur forgetting that e34/35/36/37 only had 1 flashback.
they stack the last half of the year sets w/ more flashbacks
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Feb 5, 2016 18:45:45 GMT -5
R Truth does not need an elite figure right now.
I know people are gonna argue that The Outcasts group is gonna need Elite figures too but I wouldn't bet on that either. Hell, New Day doesn't even have elite figures out yet and they are super popular on here among the collectors.
As for the Flashbacks, I collect those figures for the most part. And as much fun as it is to get them, it can hurt the old wallet (especially when you live in Canada like me, and have to order certain figures ex. Ringside Kevin Nash and have to pay exchange rate and shipping on top). So I wouldn't mind a cut back on flashbacks but at the same time, I love that so many come out at once now too. It's a catch 22 if there ever was one.
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Post by The King Of Crisps on Feb 5, 2016 18:46:32 GMT -5
Alot of guys havent changed there looks that much.
I could go for a WM Stardust with cape already though.
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