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Post by bababooey on Feb 17, 2016 10:57:25 GMT -5
Seth plays his role great, but if they don't give him a good role to play it won't make a difference. Same goes for the rest of the roster. The writing is killing the product. The talent is there.
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Post by punksnotdead on Feb 17, 2016 10:58:21 GMT -5
He's going to get cheered like crazy when he returns. Seth Rollins has the natural babyface momentum that Vince stays awake at night wishing Roman Reigns could build. Rollins earned everyone's respect the old fashioned way, by being an awesome heel. If they let him return as a babyface, it will be to thunderous applause.
My guess? They're going to bring him back as a heel though. They aren't going to insert babyface Rollins into the middle of the main event picture while they're trying to still build Roman as a top face. He'll just steal all of his momentum, kind of similar to what Ambrose is doing now haha. WWE doesn't have any legit heels outside of Triple H right now. Rollins is the only full time main event heel within a thousand miles of the title and that's why he'll return as a heel imo. I guess if Bray goes over Brock, or even Taker, at Mania, then he's right in the thick of it, but necessity points to Rollins coming back heel.
In a perfect world, Roman Reigns turns heel and joins the Authority. At which point, we see Rollins come back and run down the Authority. That could last for half the year or longer. Ambrose could also turn heel, but it doesn't make sense to align Ambrose with the Authority imo.
But yes, I think the show will be unequivocally better when Rollins returns, specifically the main event scene that has been ailing since he went out.
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Post by J12 on Feb 17, 2016 10:59:51 GMT -5
He's going to get cheered like crazy when he returns. Seth Rollins has the natural babyface momentum that Vince stays awake at night wishing Roman Reigns could build. Rollins earned everyone's respect the old fashioned way, by being an awesome heel. If they let him return as a babyface, it will be to thunderous applause. My guess? They're going to bring him back as a heel though. They aren't going to insert babyface Rollins into the middle of the main event picture while they're trying to still build Roman as a top face. He'll just steal all of his momentum, kind of similar to what Ambrose is doing now haha. WWE doesn't have any legit heels outside of Triple H right now. Rollins is the only full time main event heel within a thousand miles of the title and that's why he'll return as a heel imo. I guess if Bray goes over Brock, or even Taker, at Mania, then he's right in the thick of it, but necessity points to Rollins coming back heel. In a perfect world, Roman Reigns turns heel and joins the Authority. At which point, we see Rollins come back and run down the Authority. That could last for half the year or longer. Ambrose could also turn heel, but it doesn't make sense to align Ambrose with the Authority imo. But yes, I think the show will be unequivocally better when Rollins returns, specifically the main event scene that has been ailing since he went out. Pretty much all of this. I've said it at least a dozen times, but I'll say it again, Mega Heel Champion Roman Reigns vs. Face of the Company Seth Rollins should be main eventing Wrestlemania 33. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2016 11:02:17 GMT -5
I'm a huge fan of Rollins, but I know that his return won't magically make the product better again. It's gonna take one hell of a lot more to fix all that. Still, he'll be very much welcomed back when he does return. As for whether he returns as a face or not, only time will tell.
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Post by Miztery on Feb 17, 2016 11:30:27 GMT -5
You would think it would get much better when he returns but after that initial burst of momentum, who knows. I mean he was the #1 guy for over half a year and WWE ratings plummeted. Now that wasn't his fault, it was creative's fault. So if they don't book him better this time I don't think it'll get much better. I still think he and HHH have some beef so if we have an authority champion when he returns I think he'll jump right back into the main event scene. The product misses John Cena more than anyone.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2016 12:01:34 GMT -5
SAVE US CROSSFIT JESUS
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2016 12:09:16 GMT -5
If he's a face, yeah. His title reign was horrendous. I don't blame him, but it was by far one of the worst I've ever seen. His matches are what saved it, because he always delivered. But the long, droning promos every week, and looking less credible than the IC or US Champion was just so..bad. I get that the heel is supposed to lose, but when you lose as much as Seth did, how is anyone supposed to take him seriously? It's not a "must see" fight if you are so sure he'll lose.
Seth is just a natural babyface. He feels forced as a heel, and his character reminded me of a discount Edge.
Still, I definitely look forward to his return as I think they'll turn him babyface, and that'll be fun.
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Post by TurboEddie on Feb 17, 2016 13:52:46 GMT -5
I would love for Roman Reigns to be a heel and Seth Rollins return as a face and for them to feud in the Fall.
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Post by Joey Cush on Feb 17, 2016 14:07:48 GMT -5
He's going to get cheered like crazy when he returns. Seth Rollins has the natural babyface momentum that Vince stays awake at night wishing Roman Reigns could build. Rollins earned everyone's respect the old fashioned way, by being an awesome heel. If they let him return as a babyface, it will be to thunderous applause. My guess? They're going to bring him back as a heel though. They aren't going to insert babyface Rollins into the middle of the main event picture while they're trying to still build Roman as a top face. He'll just steal all of his momentum, kind of similar to what Ambrose is doing now haha. WWE doesn't have any legit heels outside of Triple H right now. Rollins is the only full time main event heel within a thousand miles of the title and that's why he'll return as a heel imo. I guess if Bray goes over Brock, or even Taker, at Mania, then he's right in the thick of it, but necessity points to Rollins coming back heel. In a perfect world, Roman Reigns turns heel and joins the Authority. At which point, we see Rollins come back and run down the Authority. That could last for half the year or longer. Ambrose could also turn heel, but it doesn't make sense to align Ambrose with the Authority imo. But yes, I think the show will be unequivocally better when Rollins returns, specifically the main event scene that has been ailing since he went out. Pretty much all of this. I've said it at least a dozen times, but I'll say it again, Mega Heel Champion Roman Reigns vs. Face of the Company Seth Rollins should be main eventing Wrestlemania 33. Not. Gonna. Happen. Face Cena Vs "face" Reigns where Cena officially passes the torch over to Reigns will be your Mania 33 main event. |
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Post by Himmy! on Feb 17, 2016 14:08:44 GMT -5
Love Rollins and can't wait to have him back. Hell of a talent.
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Post by J12 on Feb 17, 2016 14:13:00 GMT -5
Pretty much all of this. I've said it at least a dozen times, but I'll say it again, Mega Heel Champion Roman Reigns vs. Face of the Company Seth Rollins should be main eventing Wrestlemania 33. Not. Gonna. Happen. Face Cena Vs "face" Reigns where Cena officially passes the torch over to Reigns will be your Mania 33 main event. If they're still trying to get over Roman Reigns as a babyface by Wrestlemania 33, they're going to have a lot bigger issues than what to schedule as the main event. |
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Post by Joey Cush on Feb 17, 2016 14:23:56 GMT -5
Not. Gonna. Happen. Face Cena Vs "face" Reigns where Cena officially passes the torch over to Reigns will be your Mania 33 main event. If they're still trying to get over Roman Reigns as a babyface by Wrestlemania 33, they're going to have a lot bigger issues than what to schedule as the main event. I see no world where WWE pulls the trigger on a heel Reigns by next year. They have invested 2 years and what will be 2 Mania main events to get him over as the top babyface. I would love nothing more than a returning Rollins to get his rightful spot as the top face in the company facing his biggest rival Roman Reigns at WrestleMania 33 but I cant see them doing it because then they admit that Reigns project failed. What a shame too. WWE missed out on way too many self-written feuds because they were stubborn and thought their plan was better. |
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Post by J12 on Feb 17, 2016 14:32:59 GMT -5
If they're still trying to get over Roman Reigns as a babyface by Wrestlemania 33, they're going to have a lot bigger issues than what to schedule as the main event. I see no world where WWE pulls the trigger on a heel Reigns by next year. They have invested 2 years and what will be 2 Mania main events to get him over as the top babyface. I would love nothing more than a returning Rollins to get his rightful spot as the top face in the company facing his biggest rival Roman Reigns at WrestleMania 33 but I cant see them doing it because then they admit that Reigns project failed. What a shame too. WWE missed out on way too many self-written feuds because they were stubborn and thought their plan was better. You could very certainly end up being right, which is a scary thing to think about. With what little optimism I have left, though, I'm giving consideration to the idea that it simply gets to a point where they have no choice but to do something else. A lot of this is predicated on how gun shy they are at Wrestlemania. If they just go all in - Roman wins the title cleanly and the show goes off the air with him celebrating, I think it's more likely that they can maybe curtail the backlash enough to sustain what they're trying to do for a little while in the months after Wrestlemania. If they get cold feet again, though, and close Mania with some big post match angle that takes the heat off of Roman, my biggest fear is that they go through it all over again. A babyface champion Roman Reigns is going to be bad, but the Roman Reigns vs. The World drama extending another whole year would be far, far worse. If you're going to do it, do it. |
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Post by K5 on Feb 17, 2016 14:44:37 GMT -5
i haven't really stayed up to date with a lot of the creative direction of wwe for years as i feel it's pretty abysmal, but i'm a huge wrestling lover so i always find myself coming back to watch the great matches you guys will be talking about on here. for example, that 5 man match on raw got a lot of hype so i went back and watched it - i even watched braun/bigshow to see how bad it would be, luckily they spared us!
seth rollins is an amazing wrestler. initially my least favourite in the shield, he quickly became my pick because of his stellar performances and extremely well rounded arsenal making for a huge quality in dynamics within his matches. just went over and beyond my initial expectations and has done a few omg moments that are nothing short of amazing.
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Post by Joey Cush on Feb 17, 2016 14:49:03 GMT -5
I see no world where WWE pulls the trigger on a heel Reigns by next year. They have invested 2 years and what will be 2 Mania main events to get him over as the top babyface. I would love nothing more than a returning Rollins to get his rightful spot as the top face in the company facing his biggest rival Roman Reigns at WrestleMania 33 but I cant see them doing it because then they admit that Reigns project failed. What a shame too. WWE missed out on way too many self-written feuds because they were stubborn and thought their plan was better. You could very certainly end up being right, which is a scary thing to think about. With what little optimism I have left, though, I'm giving consideration to the idea that it simply gets to a point where they have no choice but to do something else. A lot of this is predicated on how gun shy they are at Wrestlemania. If they just go all in - Roman wins the title cleanly and the show goes off the air with him celebrating, I think it's more likely that they can maybe curtail the backlash enough to sustain what they're trying to do for a little while in the months after Wrestlemania. If they get cold feet again, though, and close Mania with some big post match angle that takes the heat off of Roman, my biggest fear is that they go through it all over again. A babyface champion Roman Reigns is going to be bad, but the Roman Reigns vs. The World drama extending another whole year would be far, far worse. If you're going to do it, do it. Its really a wait and see. They had to put the title on him eventually and it didnt turn out well. My optimism with this company died when Bryan Vs Sheamus was to be at Mania 30. And while last year with Rollins cashing in was great, this only happened because of how bad the reaction was for Reigns going in. |
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Feb 17, 2016 14:59:43 GMT -5
I hope it will be better when he returns. I doubt it will be much better though, because no one wrestler can fix the problem with the show.
For Seth's part, he was a pretty terrible main event heel all things considered, but I feel like he could be better suited to a babyface role.
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Post by The Constable on Feb 17, 2016 15:04:34 GMT -5
I think he will return at either
Money in the Bank to win a second briefcase
Or Summerslam to win back the title or insert himself back into the title picture
If he were to turn face it would have to be the right angle like Triple H screws him over leading to a fued with him against the authority (I honestly think Seth could pull the anti authority character a lot better than *cough* Roman *cough* or even Dean Ambrose maybe)
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Post by Charlie f'n Kelly on Feb 19, 2016 14:58:08 GMT -5
My ideal Rollins return was to have Roman as champion, Dean win the Rumble, and shortly before WM, have Rollins return and want his rematch for the title since he never actually lost it and have the Shield triple threat at WM for the title.
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Post by Midnight on Feb 19, 2016 18:09:56 GMT -5
Rollins is fantastic, when he does return he probably will receive a thunderous reaction. Vince just can't except that Roman will never be as over as he wants him to be. Rollins could be a great face to go against the Authority.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2016 18:13:42 GMT -5
I do not think the product will get better automatically once he gets back, I don't know if that has ever been the case for any wrestler. I did enjoy his in-ring work, his promos would put me to sleep though. They would put him in so many segments, I just got tired of seeing him. So hopefully once he comes back his promos aren't as long, or at least they don't put him in as many segments as they did before.
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