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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2016 16:56:04 GMT -5
I love the fact that people complain because blood gets taken away. Then they give us blood (or something blood-like, whatever) & people complain about it. Gotta love the IWC. Right?! I'm struggling to figure out why this is even an issue.
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Feb 23, 2016 17:22:23 GMT -5
I love the fact that people complain because blood gets taken away. Then they give us blood (or something blood-like, whatever) & people complain about it. Gotta love the IWC. Right?! I'm struggling to figure out why this is even an issue. Because nothing else in the history of wrestling has ever been fake before.
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Post by AJ F'n Brooks on Feb 23, 2016 17:29:03 GMT -5
Because the WWE has portrayed Roman Reigns as a beast. Why should we buy him as an underdog? People bought Daniel Bryan, CM Punk, Shawn Michaels and others as the underdog because the WWE didn't spend months and months showing us them dominating. Reigns can single handily take out the League of Nations, so why should we worry when he's put in a tough situation? It's the same story with John Cena. Cena's at his very best when he's NOT portrayed as the underdog. (vs. Punk, vs. Bryan, vs. Owens, etc.) Every single time they try to book Cena as the underdog (except against Brock), it's laughable. "Oh my god, will Cena be able to lift Mark Henry for the AA at Money in the Bank?" Of course he will, because we've seen him do that and other feats like it before. The Authority vs. babyface angle has been done to death. It worked for Austin because his character was fantastic and it worked for Bryan as the underdog. When someone like Cena did it, it never worked quite as well (vs. Bischoff in 2005, vs. HHH and Steph at the tail end of 2014). I'm not saying all of this as a way to hate on Reigns and I don't think it's quite as simple as "some people just hate Reigns and refuse to look past that." There are multiple people in this thread who don't hate Reigns and feel the same way. Obviously there are fans that do feel the way you said, but it's not everyone. Most of the fans chose Ambrose over Reigns because Ambrose was much more interesting and engaging from the moment the Shield split. It's partially because Dean is great in the role, but also because Dean was given a character and ran with it. It's like the WWE is scared to take a chance with Reigns. They won't take the Shield training wheels off of him since they know the Shield gimmick worked and they're afraid to try something else with him. I'm sure a good porting of the fans who dislike Roman Reigns, dislikes him for what they ear and the speculations that float around the internet. It's not everyone of course. But there's a good portion. Him keeping The Shield stuff shouldn't be a problem. The entrance is unique, the look is unique and the theme song is good. People find anything and everything to nitpick with him.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Feb 23, 2016 17:30:43 GMT -5
Because the WWE has portrayed Roman Reigns as a beast. Why should we buy him as an underdog? People bought Daniel Bryan, CM Punk, Shawn Michaels and others as the underdog because the WWE didn't spend months and months showing us them dominating. Reigns can single handily take out the League of Nations, so why should we worry when he's put in a tough situation? It's the same story with John Cena. Cena's at his very best when he's NOT portrayed as the underdog. (vs. Punk, vs. Bryan, vs. Owens, etc.) Every single time they try to book Cena as the underdog (except against Brock), it's laughable. "Oh my god, will Cena be able to lift Mark Henry for the AA at Money in the Bank?" Of course he will, because we've seen him do that and other feats like it before. The Authority vs. babyface angle has been done to death. It worked for Austin because his character was fantastic and it worked for Bryan as the underdog. When someone like Cena did it, it never worked quite as well (vs. Bischoff in 2005, vs. HHH and Steph at the tail end of 2014). I'm not saying all of this as a way to hate on Reigns and I don't think it's quite as simple as "some people just hate Reigns and refuse to look past that." There are multiple people in this thread who don't hate Reigns and feel the same way. Obviously there are fans that do feel the way you said, but it's not everyone. Most of the fans chose Ambrose over Reigns because Ambrose was much more interesting and engaging from the moment the Shield split. It's partially because Dean is great in the role, but also because Dean was given a character and ran with it. It's like the WWE is scared to take a chance with Reigns. They won't take the Shield training wheels off of him since they know the Shield gimmick worked and they're afraid to try something else with him. I'm sure a good porting of the fans who dislike Roman Reigns, dislikes him for what they ear and the speculations that float around the internet. It's not everyone of course. But there's a good portion. Him keeping The Shield stuff shouldn't be a problem. The entrance is unique, the look is unique and the theme song is good. People find anything and everything to nitpick with him. I don't see the Shield stuff as nitpicking. It's a major character flaw to me. He looks like he can't let go and do his own thing. This is pointless though because this back and forth will never end when it comes to Reigns and you.
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Post by AJ F'n Brooks on Feb 23, 2016 17:37:17 GMT -5
I'm sure a good porting of the fans who dislike Roman Reigns, dislikes him for what they ear and the speculations that float around the internet. It's not everyone of course. But there's a good portion. Him keeping The Shield stuff shouldn't be a problem. The entrance is unique, the look is unique and the theme song is good. People find anything and everything to nitpick with him. I don't see the Shield stuff as nitpicking. It's a major character flaw to me. He looks like he can't let go and do his own thing. This is pointless though because this back and forth will never end when it comes to Reigns and you. Agree to disagree?
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Feb 23, 2016 17:38:22 GMT -5
I don't see the Shield stuff as nitpicking. It's a major character flaw to me. He looks like he can't let go and do his own thing. This is pointless though because this back and forth will never end when it comes to Reigns and you. Agree to disagree? Pretty much.
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Post by Chip on Feb 23, 2016 17:47:25 GMT -5
the problem is not with "fake" blood. its the fact that everyone was all of a sudden starting to think that Reigns was this badass tough guy because he got busted open and beaten up by HHH last night where as if he wasnt bleeding it would just be another random beatdown #152. the point that this company will even make Reigns use FAKE BLOOD to try and fool the fans into liking him is the issue here. the guy is just NOT OVER. he is good. he isnt great. he does not deserve to be a ing 2x WWE Champion ALREADY when so many guys who are infinitely better than he ever will be had to scratch, claw and practically kill themselves just to have a shot at being the #1 guy...then this Reigns kid comes literally out of nowhere, hotshotted to heights beyond everyone on the entire roster for no reasons other than he's samoan, muscular and related to the rock they've spent countless hours of TV forcing this guy at the fans no matter how much backlash they give and it comes to the point they need to use "hollywood" tricks to try and generate sympathy for the guy. or maybe they just wanted to make the beat down look better and reigns didn't want to blade. eh who knows it was still a good segment/moment though watching HHH go full "heel game" and the crowd eating it up
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2016 17:57:15 GMT -5
Embarassing, really. Atleast be a man about it and blade. I don't care for your "But it wasn't his choice!" I don't care, whoever came up with the idea to use fake blood is stupid. Now people are gonna look back at famous bloody matches and be all "Bruh, this is so fake I saw they gave Roman fake blood so Eddie is just using blood packs."
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Post by AJ F'n Brooks on Feb 23, 2016 18:09:07 GMT -5
Embarassing, really. Atleast be a man about it and blade. I don't care for your "But it wasn't his choice!" I don't care, whoever came up with the idea to use fake blood is stupid. Now people are gonna look back at famous bloody matches and be all "Bruh, this is so fake I saw they gave Roman fake blood so Eddie is just using blood packs." Your comment IS embarrassing.
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Post by KPnDC on Feb 23, 2016 18:26:40 GMT -5
Embarassing, really. Atleast be a man about it and blade. I don't care for your "But it wasn't his choice!" I don't care, whoever came up with the idea to use fake blood is stupid. Now people are gonna look back at famous bloody matches and be all "Bruh, this is so fake I saw they gave Roman fake blood so Eddie is just using blood packs." What?
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Post by TheSystem 1.5 on Feb 23, 2016 18:51:25 GMT -5
...people are actually believing this?
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Post by The neferious brotha Hargrove on Feb 23, 2016 19:43:46 GMT -5
Roman > Daniel Bryan
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Post by marino13 on Feb 23, 2016 19:47:25 GMT -5
Look at it this way, on RAW last night we had... F-bombs A McMahon power struggle Blood Back stage fight on a car And yet all those clamoring for the Attitude Era to return are still complaining.
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Post by Sizzle on Feb 23, 2016 20:02:26 GMT -5
There's really no telling whether it was a blade or a blood pack. I'd go with blade if I had to choose.
That gash over his eye was nasty though.
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Post by gawd6sic6™ on Feb 23, 2016 20:44:27 GMT -5
WHO REALLY CARES?
suspension of believe needs to be alive for wrestling. Too many people have turned that off. People need to be legitimate. .... no... no they dont. It's professional wrestling. We love a "fake" sport. If we start picking it apart like the people who don't get it, it's a sad day.
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Post by TheSystem 1.5 on Feb 23, 2016 21:38:09 GMT -5
...people are actually believing this?
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Post by CF9™ on Feb 23, 2016 23:37:14 GMT -5
I feel bad that he didn't actually have to bleed for that reaction, but actually will get credit for the spot & being 'a tough guy' when it was all smoke & mirrors. Not to single you out, as others have assumed the same... but why are we assuming it was smoke and mirrors? When, in the history of refs (and now Byron) passing things to wrestlers before they bleed, have we thought it was a ing packet? Brock bleeds, a ref passes him something, we think he blades. Same thing happens with Roman, and it's a packet?
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Post by CF9™ on Feb 23, 2016 23:48:48 GMT -5
the problem is not with "fake" blood. its the fact that everyone was all of a sudden starting to think that Reigns was this badass tough guy because he got busted open and beaten up by HHH last night where as if he wasnt bleeding it would just be another random beatdown #152.the point that this company will even make Reigns use FAKE BLOOD to try and fool the fans into liking him is the issue here. the guy is just NOT OVER. he is good. he isnt great. he does not deserve to be a ing 2x WWE Champion ALREADY when so many guys who are infinitely better than he ever will be had to scratch, claw and practically kill themselves just to have a shot at being the #1 guy...then this Reigns kid comes literally out of nowhere, hotshotted to heights beyond everyone on the entire roster for no reasons other than he's samoan, muscular and related to the rock they've spent countless hours of TV forcing this guy at the fans no matter how much backlash they give and it comes to the point they need to use "hollywood" tricks to try and generate sympathy for the guy. or maybe they just wanted to make the beat down look better and reigns didn't want to blade. eh who knows it was still a good segment/moment though watching HHH go full "heel game" and the crowd eating it up While I agree with a lot of what you're saying... You're faulting them for them trying to get him over and it possibly succeeding? Isn't that a company's goal? Think about how many guys in the past bled, to either make them look tough or just enhance a segment. Why is it a problem with Reigns?
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Post by Joey Cush on Feb 24, 2016 0:58:32 GMT -5
I feel bad that he didn't actually have to bleed for that reaction, but actually will get credit for the spot & being 'a tough guy' when it was all smoke & mirrors. Not to single you out, as others have assumed the same... but why are we assuming it was smoke and mirrors? When, in the history of refs (and now Byron) passing things to wrestlers before they bleed, have we thought it was a ing packet? Brock bleeds, a ref passes him something, we think he blades. Same thing happens with Roman, and it's a packet? You think he bladed his nose? Lol
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Post by weaseltv on Feb 24, 2016 1:02:29 GMT -5
Anyone that likes blading, just stare at DVons head for a while...
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