Henchmen4Hire
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Post by Henchmen4Hire on Mar 3, 2016 16:38:14 GMT -5
Recently I got the bug to enjoy wrestling again. I've been hopping around watching videos to catch up on what's going on in the biz today, and one of the things that stands out is Cena getting mercilessly booed in every match ever! I vaguely remember Cena was supposed to be a good guy who supports the troops and 'Murica and is a role model to all the childrens, so I find it wildly entertaining that the fans refuse to have him as a face. And yes, I totally lost my shiz when I saw ONS in 2006 (RVD being one of my favs helped too). There's nothing better than genuine, visceral fan reactions.
I'm watching random matches with Cena, and he comes out like a good guy, he's polite to the ref, he tosses out his gear to the few fans he has rofl. So, what did Cena do!? Why does everyone hate him? I'm watching Wrestlemania 28 right now and already laughing hysterically as the poor guy takes the booing like a real trooper.
For fun, what kind of gimmick would you guys give a Heel Cena?
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Post by IRS on Mar 3, 2016 16:49:29 GMT -5
Why?
Because he's been doing the same thing for 11 years straight. Not only is his gimmick stale, but seeing the company build up a new monster heel, just to feed them to Cena and have them descend into obscurity afterwards, is equally terrible. Also, seeing WWE cut guys off at the knees the moment they start to surpass Cena's popularity, or having them become buddy-buddy with Cena so he can mooch off their popularity.
In the end, it's not really about Cena himself - who has even said he wanted to turn heel, and had thousands of dollars worth of gear made up when he thought it would happen - but WWE's godawful Superman booking, and extreme protection of him. Which, ultimately, is why Roman Reigns is already so hated.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2016 16:57:30 GMT -5
I dunno. I like Cena, and miss him, honestly. RAW always feels like a bigger deal when he's around, and he had some of the best matches of his career last year. I dunno how anyone can STILL say he can't wrestle, because he's proven that he's a great wrestler since like 2005 and gotten better with time. We're obviously moving into a Cena-less world soon...and that's frightening.
If Cena ever, and I don't think he will, turned heel I'd make him a combination of Hollywood Hogan and 2011 CM Punk. Drop smarky "insider" terms that he's going to "bury" his opponents and call people jobbers and what not.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2016 17:29:15 GMT -5
If Cena turned heel, the men would start cheering him, the women and kids would start booing him, and we'd be back where we started again.
Same goes for Reigns.
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Post by marino13 on Mar 3, 2016 18:03:49 GMT -5
For starters I'd put him in ring gear. Ditch the jorts. If he insists on staying in shorts, have him stick to camo shorts.
No more sneakers.
Once the heel turn happens I wouldn't have him give an interview or explanation why for at least a month. Make the fans yearn for his next promo.
Use a variation of this as his theme song...
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Post by POOR-ly Cuyler on Mar 3, 2016 18:17:08 GMT -5
Poor Cena? He's been the top guy for years. And Nikki Bella....
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Post by Red Dragon on Mar 3, 2016 18:35:47 GMT -5
I used to be a Cena hater but then I grew up. I'm all for people having their own opinions but most of the people who hate Cena now are just doing it because they think it's 'cool'. I find it ridiculous the amount of hate he gets.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2016 18:46:37 GMT -5
I used to be a Cena hater but then I grew up. I'm all for people having their own opinions but most of the people who hate Cena now are just doing it because they think it's 'cool'. I find it ridiculous the amount of hate he gets. Blunt, but applicable. I went from a fan, to hating him because..well, I was supposed too, right? Back to loving him lol |
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Post by Gone. on Mar 3, 2016 19:33:09 GMT -5
Watching New Legacy Inc commentate Tabboo Tuesday 2005 was kinda sad. Y'know, the fans wanted a real champion like Kurt Angle or HBK, but instead we got Cena's 5 moves of doom.
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Post by K5 on Mar 3, 2016 19:45:32 GMT -5
he's just the physical representative of everything that's stupid and bad about wrestling today. it's gross.
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Mar 3, 2016 19:57:31 GMT -5
What I find strange is that people turned on him in 2005 and there was no real reason to. He worked hard and slowly went from nothing to a star. It was the perfect build up. If fans turned on him around 2007 I would've understood but 2005 was too soon because he was only the top star for 1 year.
At the end of the day though the booing did him no harm. He is now an active legend, future HOFer and has been a children's hero for 12 years.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2016 20:27:38 GMT -5
People turned on him within his first year on top. Some grew out of it. Some continued to be against him until it became his gimmick being stale. Either way, last year he was putting on some of the best work of his career and did great things with that flag belt prop.
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Henchmen4Hire
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Post by Henchmen4Hire on Mar 4, 2016 0:27:55 GMT -5
Just saw WM29...he had the same match as WM28, except it was more repetitive since Rock joined in on doing the same move for most of the match rofl
I don't hate Cena, it's funny watching these matches.
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Post by BCizzle on Mar 4, 2016 0:39:49 GMT -5
I used to be a Cena hater but then I grew up. I'm all for people having their own opinions but most of the people who hate Cena now are just doing it because they think it's 'cool'. I find it ridiculous the amount of hate he gets. He has had a ton of great matches. His U.S. Title challenge lead to some really great matches just this past year, and was the freshest he has felt in a long time. He really is special when it comes to charisma and connecting with the crowd, like Hulk Hogan back in the days of Hulkamania. But - he is also quite stale, his childish poopy jokes are lame, and he never seems to take his opponents seriously, so when they lose to him they look weak. I guess you could say that about other top guys in the past, but Cena represents just how bland and repetitive the WWE has been the past 5 or 10 years. Sadly, the WWE is following the same formula with Roman Reigns, yet he doesn't have the charisma or great matches Cena does, so it's even more painful. |
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Post by becks007 on Mar 4, 2016 3:08:32 GMT -5
He is someone we all love to hate, and hate to love. He was great as the underdog when he first started out during the ruthless aggression era. Entertaining as the rapper. Then he slowly went away with the thuganomics gimmick when he won the wwe championship for the first time in 2005 and it still is the same gimmick till today, even the same entrance music. He was great then, fun to watch, but after a year or so, I grew tired of him.. The rest of the wwe universe probably felt the same way too because that's when the jeers started to come. And the jeers got louder and louder with every year. Indeed, his current gimmick has gone stale and overstayed it's welcome.
There is no doubt though that he has committed a lot to the company and for the company, and for that, I respect him. He didn't give the company problems like Austin did in the past when he left all of a sudden back in 2002. Or like The Rock did when he left for Hollywood to be an actor. Cena stayed with the WWE, never turning his back to the fans that love him or hate him since he debuted and that's pretty impressive.
But he needs to be rebooted if you will, and be given a different personality, but I honestly don't see that ever happening. Perhaps it's time he slowly step back and make way for the younger guys in the roster. But that is all up to Vince and Co..
Love him or hate him, he is definitely a legend already and a definite future hall of famer..
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Mar 4, 2016 5:09:41 GMT -5
Personally, I feel really bad for him, with his millions of dollars, status as one of the top handful of wrestlers of all time, hot-as-hell girlfriend, movie career, fame, mansion and so on.
Wait, I don't mean "feel really bad for him." That was a typo. I meant to say I'm bitterly jealous of his life and success.
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Post by JC Motors on Mar 4, 2016 9:23:24 GMT -5
Poor Cena? He's been the top guy for years. And Nikki Bella.... I think he means that he's injured |
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Post by POOR-ly Cuyler on Mar 4, 2016 9:26:23 GMT -5
Poor Cena? He's been the top guy for years. And Nikki Bella.... I think he means that he's injured I did too when I saw the thread title. Did you read the OP? Hes feels bad they BOO him.... |
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Post by JC Motors on Mar 4, 2016 10:20:58 GMT -5
I think he means that he's injured I did too when I saw the thread title. Did you read the OP? Hes feels bad they BOO him.... He's been getting booed for years now |
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Post by J12 on Mar 4, 2016 10:45:50 GMT -5
Cena is a really smart guy who understands, respects, and loves the business. I think he probably gets that the majority of people who boo him aren't doing it as some personal attack, but rather, in protest of the lazy way in which WWE has handled his character. And I'm not even talking about winning all the time, but rather, the fact that he's largely been the exact same commodity for over a decade. People seem to forget that Cena has over doubled Stone Cold's time in the spotlight. That amount of time is too much to ask of any linear, one-dimensional character in this day and age.
I do think, however, that Cena's 2014/2015 was largely a response to the segment of the audience who has booed him, not out of spite, but simply as a way of acknowledging their displeasure while working to better himself and the people around him. Summerslam 2014 - his more recent injury was the best eighteen (give or take) months of Cena's career from an in-ring standpoint, and I think fans took notice of that. It certainly made me groan a whole lot less when he came out to cut a largely repetitive promo.
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