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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2016 10:01:50 GMT -5
Relax folks, it's all about the angle Sir, we're talking about wrestling figures, not impressing the ladies with a suggestive picture. Let's keep it PG.
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Post by JKLMD2002 on Mar 7, 2016 10:19:25 GMT -5
I appreciate Mattel getting it right more often than not. At least there's a discernible difference between Heenan and his Family members. :-) And I'm very happy Sasha Banks isn't the same height as Charlotte.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2016 10:30:19 GMT -5
Relax folks, it's all about the angle Sir, we're talking about wrestling figures, not impressing the ladies with a suggestive picture. Let's keep it PG. .......my bad Wrong thread
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Post by poindizzle on Mar 7, 2016 10:57:06 GMT -5
Did Mattel actually ever say we make correct scale products? Maybe they did, I really am legit asking.
They generally do approximate scale well. This isn't perfect, but less than ten years ago we had a Paul Bearer figure that was as tall as an Undertaker. Comparing Mattel to Hasbro might be a stretch, but Mattel to Jakks isn't. Truth is that Jakks was way behind the curve of what an average action figure looked like ten years ago. See Toybiz Marvel Legends, SOTA Street Fighter, Mattel DC Superheroes/DCUC, and others to see how far off-model they were from industry standard.
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Post by shanemarvel7 on Mar 7, 2016 11:06:54 GMT -5
I'll take better pics . But the scaling isn't that bad , I was so use to Jakks where Taker and Rey were the same size .
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Post by master of the WORLD! on Mar 7, 2016 12:02:00 GMT -5
I think the scaling is just fine especially for a $20ish line. they wont ever be perfect but they are close enough. if they were higher end figures that were $50+ then id prob think maybe they should be perfect
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2016 12:04:59 GMT -5
I think the scaling is just fine especially for a $20ish line. they wont ever be perfect but they are close enough. if they were higher end figures that were $50+ then id prob think maybe they should be perfect Price is wholly irrelevant. If I sold you a car for $100 and you came to collect it and it was a bike, you wouldn't say, oh well it was only $100 so who cares Attention to detail needs tweaking slightly and it'd be a great improvement
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Post by master of the WORLD! on Mar 7, 2016 12:13:53 GMT -5
We aren't talking cars we are talking about action figures. I see what youre saying but my point is that they are $20 figures MAYBE budget has to do something with a lot of decisions. maybe they would need to tool new parts that would drive the price up (that's what I assume anyway)
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Post by POOR-ly Cuyler on Mar 7, 2016 12:14:18 GMT -5
I think the scaling is just fine especially for a $20ish line. they wont ever be perfect but they are close enough. if they were higher end figures that were $50+ then id prob think maybe they should be perfect Price is wholly irrelevant. If I sold you a car for $100 and you came to collect it and it was a bike, you wouldn't say, oh well it was only $100 so who cares Attention to detail needs tweaking slightly and it'd be a great improvement Seems a bit extreme. Would be more like if you bought a fullsize car, and they give you a mini cooper or a Humvee instead.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2016 12:15:46 GMT -5
Price is wholly irrelevant. If I sold you a car for $100 and you came to collect it and it was a bike, you wouldn't say, oh well it was only $100 so who cares Attention to detail needs tweaking slightly and it'd be a great improvement Seems a bit extreme. Would be more like if you bought a fullsize car, and they give you a mini cooper or a Humvee instead. Haha yeah a little bit
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Post by Halloween King on Mar 7, 2016 12:44:15 GMT -5
The scale is not correct but these are toys so I dont really care. I think it's horrible that people think Mattel is the greatest thing since sliced bread because of scale.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2016 16:07:55 GMT -5
Jakks did at least two years ago and those were trash True. But it's an inaccurate comparison to say look at hasbros and then look at Mattel. Hasbros never claimed to be scale or "highly detailed action figures" Hasbro made 4 inch action figures, not scale figures The technology from 1991 has changed Hasbros were the best.
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Post by kgchampion on Mar 7, 2016 17:52:22 GMT -5
People are forgetting about perspective. Studd is behind Perfect, so he will appear shorter than he is. If they were side by side, it will be more accurate. It's why Taker looks smaller all the way in the back, but he's really a very tall figure.
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Post by poindizzle on Mar 7, 2016 19:00:30 GMT -5
I get the argument from all sides, I really do. When we were children and we clubbed each other with LJNs or played with Hasbro or Jakks or whomever used to make wrestling toys, we didn't care about scale. As adults, we approach things analytically. Its what we do in most aspects of life at our age. It doesn't necessarily benefit us to worry so much about toys, but we can't help it. Cheap or not, we know deep down in our adult brains that have become attuned to our spending, just how much a figure actually costs. How much time did we clock at work to afford these figures? His much time did we invest seeking this toy? How much time do we spend in these forums researching the toy? These are merely adult things to think when we have this hobby. And this is why we critique. Again, is it beneficial? Not necessarily, but it is perfectly natural.
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Post by Greensborohill on Mar 7, 2016 19:17:27 GMT -5
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Post by Greensborohill on Mar 7, 2016 19:19:49 GMT -5
Also, a display tip in regards to scale. Over the years I've found that figs look taller than they really are when placed on the left hand side. So figs that should be taller but aren't go on the left. Figs that are too tall & shouldn't be go on the right.
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Post by PJ on Mar 7, 2016 19:31:53 GMT -5
Did Mattel actually ever say we make correct scale products? Maybe they did, I really am legit asking. They generally do approximate scale well. This isn't perfect, but less than ten years ago we had a Paul Bearer figure that was as tall as an Undertaker. Comparing Mattel to Hasbro might be a stretch, but Mattel to Jakks isn't. Truth is that Jakks was way behind the curve of what an average action figure looked like ten years ago. See Toybiz Marvel Legends, SOTA Street Fighter, Mattel DC Superheroes/DCUC, and others to see how far off-model they were from industry standard. Nope they never claimed it would be perfect scaling. Just that there would be differences between taller guys and the smaller guys. And in the first pic posted in this thread they did that. Sure Sasha looks very small in that pic, but she is the smallest one in the group and everyone else in the pic are taller than the people they should be and shorter than the ones they should be also. So there's various scales
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Post by mrbiggs on Mar 7, 2016 20:31:09 GMT -5
Did Mattel actually ever say we make correct scale products? Maybe they did, I really am legit asking. They generally do approximate scale well. This isn't perfect, but less than ten years ago we had a Paul Bearer figure that was as tall as an Undertaker. Comparing Mattel to Hasbro might be a stretch, but Mattel to Jakks isn't. Truth is that Jakks was way behind the curve of what an average action figure looked like ten years ago. See Toybiz Marvel Legends, SOTA Street Fighter, Mattel DC Superheroes/DCUC, and others to see how far off-model they were from industry standard. Yes, Mattel said that their figures were all going to be correct scale, one inch per foot on their WWE figures, in Toyfare magazine a few months before the first figures were released. They stated that their WWE figures were going to be the most realistic wrestling figures ever made, paying close attention to likenesses, scale, costume designs, tattoos, etc. I believe the issue came out about 2 months before the actual product first hit shelves.
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Post by HandsomeHollywood on Mar 7, 2016 22:07:06 GMT -5
I think the scale is fine. It's not accurate, no, but like OP said when it came to Jakks scale wasn't a thing. My Eddie Guerrero towered over my Lesnar.
At least guys and divas are taller or shorter than who they're supposed to be, even if the difference is inaccurate.
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Post by PJ on Mar 7, 2016 22:41:32 GMT -5
Did Mattel actually ever say we make correct scale products? Maybe they did, I really am legit asking. They generally do approximate scale well. This isn't perfect, but less than ten years ago we had a Paul Bearer figure that was as tall as an Undertaker. Comparing Mattel to Hasbro might be a stretch, but Mattel to Jakks isn't. Truth is that Jakks was way behind the curve of what an average action figure looked like ten years ago. See Toybiz Marvel Legends, SOTA Street Fighter, Mattel DC Superheroes/DCUC, and others to see how far off-model they were from industry standard. Yes, Mattel said that their figures were all going to be correct scale, one inch per foot on their WWE figures, in Toyfare magazine a few months before the first figures were released. They stated that their WWE figures were going to be the most realistic wrestling figures ever made, paying close attention to likenesses, scale, costume designs, tattoos, etc. I believe the issue came out about 2 months before the actual product first hit shelves. But they never said it was going to be a perfect scale. There is no way they could do that unless they were going to make 15+ different leg and torso molds to every height between Rey Mysterio and Andre the Giant. They said in their first Toy Fair interview that they would have different sizes so there would be a difference in sizes. And if you look at the pic in this thread everyone is correct from shortest to tallest. They might not be the perfect scale (size differences) as their real cou terparts, but if you were to line those figures up with the real wrestlers from shortest to tallest. The figures would line up in the same order as their real counterparts. I have that magazine also with the Basic series 1 Triple H silloett on the cover. Or was it the Tomart where they showed us they werecalso using Gentle Giant Studios for their scanning process?
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