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Post by James St. James on Mar 18, 2016 4:17:23 GMT -5
I, like most people, would love for the Divas Championship to change back to the Woman's Championship, especially now that Sasha Banks and Becky Lynch have been blowing my mind in the ring and they deserve a prestigious championship.
The Divas Championship is a whore. It has no prestige. They put it on nearly every woman that was in the company at some point the second they progressed past the point in their skills where they might accidentally break their neck.
There are also precious few ladies who deserve to be called a champion that have held it, and NOT the Woman's Championship before its deactivation. Beth Phoenix, Mickie James, Michelle McCool and Layla were all very respectable in ring competitors. Kelly Kelly, Maryse, Brie Bella, KAITLYN? Not so much. Dont get me wrong, I think a lot of these Divas improved tremendously over their careers and deserve credit for that, but they do not deserve to be recognized by history in such a prestigious way.
That is why the belt needs to go and the Women's Championship, along with it's history and the last recognized champion being Layla, need to be reinstated. Natalya would still have time to get it at some point. And Sasha Banks wouldn't have to be mentioned in the same breath as every other diva in the last 8 years.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2016 4:22:39 GMT -5
Look more into the history of the Women's Championship/Moolah and you might change your mind.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2016 6:31:20 GMT -5
I'm more concerned with that stupid Total Divas spot they keep running with Eva Marie.... Seriously, why in the hell would you suggest that two women form a tag team when there is no women's tag team division or women's tag team championship?? Aside from just to create a lame reality show plot about Eva dying her hair. -Insert Cornette face here-
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Mar 18, 2016 6:40:18 GMT -5
Maryse for a while in 2008-2009 was pretty much the best diva they've ever had. Hot as hell, wrestled in a way that fit her character, and knew how to be a heel. She seemed to lose interest in it pretty quick though, and the company kinda lost interest in her.
But if "everyone has held it and killed its prestige" was a reason to scrap a title, there'd be no intercontinental anymore.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2016 6:40:21 GMT -5
If the daughter of Ric Flair isn't enough to get them to change it back to the Women's Championship, then no woman champion will sadly.
It's a shame. A ugly hunk of metal designed for mediocre women like the Bella's or Candice Michelle. Women like AJ, Nattie, Beth Phoenix, Paige, Charlotte, Sasha, and Becky deserve better.
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Post by Joe/Smurf on Mar 18, 2016 7:10:03 GMT -5
Maryse and Kaitlyn definitely don't deserve to be in that category. They were both perfectly cromulent.
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Post by Midnight on Mar 18, 2016 7:31:34 GMT -5
They definitely need to bring back the Women's Championship because you know it actually looked like a championship title.
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Post by Boy Wonder on Mar 18, 2016 8:01:43 GMT -5
If the daughter of Ric Flair isn't enough to get them to change it back to the Women's Championship, then no woman champion will sadly. You wait until Aurora Helmsley gets that title. But I agree. It's an ugly belt and an insult to women athletes. I imagine if it doesn't get fixed before, it'll get changed when HHH takes over the company. |
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Post by Daria on Mar 18, 2016 8:29:01 GMT -5
The woman's title has been held by managers, a man, won due to bikini contests, etc it's really not that great as people make it lol. Just change the title of the divas title, that's all. There's really no issue with calling it the divas title (I don't see why the 4hw have an issue with it, you never see guys complain about being called wwe superstar it's just a title)
To say aj was better then the Bella's (at least Nikki) is laughable
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Post by The neferious brotha Hargrove on Mar 18, 2016 8:39:12 GMT -5
It won't change not as long as Vinny Mac is in charge , sex sells and the divas division make a lot of money for Vinny Mac , besides even if they change the title it won't make the title anymore prestigious , it didn't work for the ic title when went to the classic look, they won't put in the time to make storylines better , so it is a waste to bother
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Post by ARUN on Mar 18, 2016 8:40:25 GMT -5
I agree. Would love to see the old women's championship come back. Interesting how NXT uses the women's title and not the "divas" title.
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Post by marino13 on Mar 18, 2016 9:24:04 GMT -5
I'd love it if WWE had a one night tournament aired as a Special Event on the network for the WWE women's championship. They could include Women from both WWE & NXT. It could be a great way to get some new interesting match ups. Could you imagine a Sasha vs Asuka final?
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Post by punksnotdead on Mar 18, 2016 9:34:15 GMT -5
I'm not really caught up on the name, Diva's is just a branding tool, or the lineage, but I would like to see them redesign the belt to something a little less... flamboyant. We are moving into this territory with WWE where we can finally take women as seriously as men and the women having a giant butterfly belt is kind of mockingly misogynistic?
It's whatever though I guess. The tag titles look like giant pennies. So what are you going to do...
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Mar 18, 2016 9:40:41 GMT -5
I don't care about the name. Divas is a branding tool, just like TNA having their title being the Knockouts Title. Make it look more like a prestigious title though. Looking like a butterfly is not good.
Also, I wouldn't praise the Women's Title line too much. It's certainly had some awful history at times (Hervina anyone?). I wouldn't put Kaitlyn or Maryse on the list of bad champions either.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2016 9:40:51 GMT -5
I'm not really caught up on the name, Diva's is just a branding tool, or the lineage, but I would like to see them redesign the belt to something a little less... flamboyant. We are moving into this territory with WWE where we can finally take women as seriously as men and the women having a giant butterfly belt is kind of mockingly misogynistic? It's whatever though I guess. The tag titles look like giant pennies. So what are you going to do... This exactly |
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Post by James St. James on Mar 18, 2016 11:24:11 GMT -5
The woman's title has been held by managers, a man, won due to bikini contests, etc it's really not that great as people make it lol. Just change the title of the divas title, that's all. There's really no issue with calling it the divas title (I don't see why the 4hw have an issue with it, you never see guys complain about being called wwe superstar it's just a title) To say aj was better then the Bella's (at least Nikki) is laughable The title never changed hands due to a bikini contest. It was an evening gown in a pool match. 1999 was a clusterf***, no doubt. I think what happened is that when Sable didnt work out they didnt know what to do with it until Stephanie won it in February 2000. All of those awful gimmick matches happened within 6 months of each other. The Butterfly belt has been around for 8 YEARS. |
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Post by Kanenite on Mar 18, 2016 11:49:51 GMT -5
They could probably make a new design but I'm fine with it being the Divas Championship.
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Post by LostHawk05 on Mar 18, 2016 13:24:07 GMT -5
I wonder if there are any women on this board who care to weigh in with their thoughts on them being called Divas and fighting over a butterfly belt.
When my daughter was younger and would watch with me she loved the look of the title. So, if WWE is trying to target 7 year old girls I guess they nailed it.
Doesn't surprise me that a bunch of 15-30+ year old men don't like it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2016 13:34:09 GMT -5
I'm fine with it. Most of them are terrible
In a few years if the division has changed significantly then maybe. If not leave it how it is.
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Post by havoc7179 on Mar 18, 2016 13:45:52 GMT -5
I always thought with Paige sometimes referred to as the Anti Diva, she would have done a Lance Storm and renamed it for a while. At this point, it's not changing, and I doubt it will for a while.
Somewhat off topic. WWE should one day rank the titles. We know the WWE World Heavyweight Title is the best, but I was always confused as to whether the WWE Title or World Heavyweight Title were equals or whether one was better. At times the WWE title seemed bigger. Then the World Heavyweight Title. Never made sense. And, where is the US and IC title come into play? It used to be the IC champion was close in line to the main title. Not anymore. Title need to seem like big deals.
In boxing it works out that all the titles are essentially equal since it's dependent on weight class. Here, not so much. So, it makes sense that one title can be better than the other.
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