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Post by HandsomeHollywood on Mar 23, 2016 15:49:31 GMT -5
Hah, what? Way to contradict yourself. I don't have George "the Animal" Steele yet though. But, if you hate re-releases because "inferior collectors" should suffer the high cost of the secondary market...then? Shouldn't you suffer and pay through the nose for George Steele? How could you miss out on a figure you want as a "true collector"? Honestly, not trying to pick on you or anything, just trying to map the thinking.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2016 15:58:15 GMT -5
I don't have George "the Animal" Steele yet though. But, if you hate re-releases because "inferior collectors" should suffer the high cost of the secondary market...then? Shouldn't you suffer and pay through the nose for George Steele? How could you miss out on a figure you want as a "true collector"? Honestly, not trying to pick on you or anything, just trying to map the thinking. Well, I would have to pay that higher price if he wasn't being re-released but now I don't have to. I'll probably pass on him though, because I don't like him that much.
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Post by D.B.K. on Mar 23, 2016 17:16:49 GMT -5
I have no problems with re-releases - It's a good way for newer collectors, so they can catch up/get the figures that were released early in wwe mattel era and I save the money on not buying re-releases. It's a both sides win IMO.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2016 17:18:35 GMT -5
But, if you hate re-releases because "inferior collectors" should suffer the high cost of the secondary market...then? Shouldn't you suffer and pay through the nose for George Steele? How could you miss out on a figure you want as a "true collector"? Honestly, not trying to pick on you or anything, just trying to map the thinking. Well, I would have to pay that higher price if he wasn't being re-released but now I don't have to. I'll probably pass on him though, because I don't like him that much. About that.... There is no "higher price" for Steele. He goes for $10 MOC on eBay. I think rereleased are a good idea, BUT they shouldn't rerelease figures that go for LESS than retail price on the aftermarket. I got my Legends Steele for $5 MOC.
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Post by ellisd on Mar 23, 2016 17:30:02 GMT -5
I don't mind re releases, it helps people who weren't collecting at the time. Plus it saves me money if I already have it. My opinion too
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2016 18:05:43 GMT -5
Well, I would have to pay that higher price if he wasn't being re-released but now I don't have to. I'll probably pass on him though, because I don't like him that much. About that.... There is no "higher price" for Steele. He goes for $10 MOC on eBay. I think rereleased are a good idea, BUT they shouldn't rerelease figures that go for LESS than retail price on the aftermarket. I got my Legends Steele for $5 MOC. That's another reason why I'm totally against re-releases. If Mattel is going to force me to pay more for a figure than I would on the secondary market then it should be for a figure they haven't made yet.
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Post by tommyb on Mar 23, 2016 21:10:12 GMT -5
I'm just not sure how some of you deal with the fact that if you were late to the game you spent triple on retail to have a special item in your collection and then they re-release it. It kind of feels like a slap in the face, I'm not personally offended based on never paying the premium prices however I know many that have. So I'm 100% against duplicate releases and I think long term as much as Mattel hates the secondary market it truly makes many of there figures more sought after and drives there future sales on harder to find figures and exclusives
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Post by LA Times on Mar 23, 2016 21:55:57 GMT -5
I dont mind it. Mattel has been doing it for years dating back to their Best of 2010 Series. I was thrilled to see the Big Bossman rereleased since I never found his E14 figure in stores.
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Post by The Mask of Truth on Mar 23, 2016 22:15:14 GMT -5
I can't stand re-releases. Instead of making an old figure I already have they should make a new figure I don't have yet. If someone doesn't have the figure they're re-releasing yet then they should have to suffer or pay extra on the secondary market. Why should a true collector (me) have to suffer because an inferior collector (not me) wants a second chance at picking up a figure they missed out on the first time around? This is a form of rewarding failure. The only time a re-release is good is when it is of a figure I don't have yet. Aww man, why did they ban this character? He was entertaining as hell.
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Post by Heatwave on Mar 23, 2016 23:29:38 GMT -5
I am ok with it completely. This is my chance to get some figures I have missed out on. Now if they would only re-release Diesel
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Post by crush on Mar 24, 2016 0:54:18 GMT -5
I voted for the second option, though in all honesty I think that there's a very big difference between a rerelease and a repaint. For example, IMO the HOF King Booker is NOT a rerelease, it's a repaint designed to get a version of a popular figure back out there without just releasing it again, and that's fine with me. Honestly, it's something I wish Funko (my main collection these days) would do with some of their retired characters.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2016 0:58:15 GMT -5
no fun any more .they will all be coming out
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Post by The Everlasting Spirit © on Mar 24, 2016 8:49:02 GMT -5
Rereleases bad repaints good E12 Kane --> Two Sleeve Kane E13 Edge --> purple Edge E16 Diesel --> WM12 Diesel L1 Dusty --> NWA Dusty L3 Rock --> WM17 Rock L5 Savage --> WM3 Savage I feel exactly the same and like your idea to rerelease Kane and edge. I would probably buy both of these even though I have the originals.
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Post by qdogg on Mar 24, 2016 9:41:38 GMT -5
It's easy to be upset if you are a old time collector who was there right from the start and bought the product and supported the line. I can understand that.
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Post by fzmadness on Mar 24, 2016 9:58:56 GMT -5
I dont mind them. It gives me or others a chance to go back and pick somene up thy missed or was released before they started collecting. As far as the value argument its like anything else you buy for "value" it can go up but it can also go down. Thats the risk you take. I dont care if one of my "rare" figures gets released. I dont plan on selling the thing anyway so whatever. I am all for a straight re release of Kevin Nash!!!!
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Post by Mr. PerpetuaLynch Motion on Mar 24, 2016 10:34:12 GMT -5
Since I stopped collecting for a good period and missed a bunch of great ones I'm usually pretty ok with it.
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Post by The Everlasting Spirit © on Mar 24, 2016 11:02:23 GMT -5
Just for clarity to me the King Booker in HOF4 is exactly how I think a rerelease should be done.
similar to the idea suggested of having E12 Kane rereleased but as a two sleeves version. This is perfect IMO as it doesn't detract from the original and I know I (and many others) who already have the figure would buy this version too. But we don't feel the effort gone to find the figure was wasted.
While there definately is a cost and value element to this its not all about that. Sometimes it's the effort and collectability value. For example when E12 Kane was going for stupid priced even loose I nabbed it on eBay for just £5 (apx $8-9?). So I won't loose value on this but that fact I obtained a hard to find figure was part of the fun. If Mattel straight rerelease this wth no changes the personal value I feel is slightly tarnished.
On the flip side from Mattels perspective I sometimes look at a figure and I'm on the fence about buying it at full retail price. However sometimes the persuading factor is that if I guess it's particularly impressive and is likely to hold or improve value it can be one of my deciding factors to go ahead and purchase.
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Post by champofakind on Mar 24, 2016 17:27:02 GMT -5
I'm for it if they have a diff look. But look at a guy like Bossman who really only had 2 different iconic attires in the WWF/WWE whatever. So I see why they re-released his elite 14 figure. And I'm sure we will get his swat/corporate look later on.
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