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Post by thedecision on Mar 23, 2016 8:15:22 GMT -5
Rereleases will kill the hobby
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Post by wrestlingdelorean on Mar 23, 2016 8:15:27 GMT -5
Need a fourth option. I don't like them, but I don't care that they do them. Saves me money.
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Post by Browser Brody on Mar 23, 2016 8:23:13 GMT -5
they bother me zero. ive bern collecting since day one and have had a chance at every figure. re-releases just mean i can skip them and save a bit of loot that week.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2016 8:35:36 GMT -5
I can't stand re-releases.
Instead of making an old figure I already have they should make a new figure I don't have yet.
If someone doesn't have the figure they're re-releasing yet then they should have to suffer or pay extra on the secondary market.
Why should a true collector (me) have to suffer because an inferior collector (not me) wants a second chance at picking up a figure they missed out on the first time around? This is a form of rewarding failure.
The only time a re-release is good is when it is of a figure I don't have yet.
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Post by Rob7274 on Mar 23, 2016 8:46:40 GMT -5
I don't mind re-paints as long as the figure was good to begin with (Right body parts etc...) and as long as the headsculpt is good and hasn't been used a hundred times.
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Post by wayneyb on Mar 23, 2016 8:55:59 GMT -5
I have the original Bossman but not the new one. .what's the difference between them? I don't care about collector's value, but I do like to see stuff like Taker and Bossman, where slight changes make an old figure new again. It wouldn't break my heart if Bill took another shot at E12 Kane w/ red left shoulder peg(WM31 Elite doesn't count even though it was good) and Wrestlemania 12 HBK. I thought Boss Man was a straight re-release too but there are some minor changes. No ball and chain, also he now only has one badge on his sleeve, and inverted shoulder design. Big Boss Man name on shirt pocket is larger too. Minor changes but a slight variation on his first elite. Not enough of a change for me to drop £24.99 on it personally. The next Boss Man I want will be in black SWAT gear
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Post by ero on Mar 23, 2016 9:01:35 GMT -5
I prefer straight re-releases so I don't feel compelled to buy a figure again just because it has a minor tweak or new accessory (looking at you, George Steele!). And I appreciate the re-releases because they give people a second chance at figures. I think Bossman for instance was handled well because he has different packaging that appeals to MOC collectors but he's an exclusive, so we don't have to worry about him affecting the health of the regular retail line. I do question it in the DM line because that's quite a price hike, but if it's a DM being re-released, then that's cool.
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Post by marino13 on Mar 23, 2016 9:03:04 GMT -5
Doesn't bother me one bit. I'm not collecting these because I want to resell them someday.
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Post by ZDB on Mar 23, 2016 9:08:03 GMT -5
I don't like them but at this point there's no way to avoid them
I accept them re-using parts they won't ever get use for again (Bossman)
I accept them doing completely different paint schemes (WM30 Heritage Kane)
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Post by hbchris on Mar 23, 2016 10:48:01 GMT -5
The re-release of SDCC Undertaker is lame. Apparently someone forgot the whole point of an exclusive. That one never should have been re-released in nearly identical form.
On the other hand, in general, I'm fine with re-releases, especially in the basic waves. It's great that a popular figure can return in later waves instead of being in one wave and gone forever. Back in the ancient olden days of the '80s figures would be restocked and on shelves for a year or more (intentionally!) and there'd be ample opportunity to buy what you wanted, and while I'd never want to return to that, I do think there's a lot of value in making certain figures available for more than just a a month or two.
If that happened within regular Elite waves I guess I'd be a bit salty about it, since there are fewer waves per year than basics and only 6 figures per wave (even more so with Defining Moments, where there are only 4 per year), but seeing them re-released in Best Of series or the Network series or whatever to allow more people to get their hands on them is cool.
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Post by bigm25 on Mar 23, 2016 11:26:24 GMT -5
I'm totally fine with it, I started collecting in 2013 so I missed a ton of great figs and since then with all the re releases lately I've been able to catch up. I don't get why people are pissed about figures like the gold King Booker, The Elite 14(?) has white attire, this one has gold. I understand instances like George where its virtually the same figure, just don't buy it be happy u get to save money unlike myself lol. The stupid part about it is that these are the same people complaining but (for example) have 5 macho man figs in different colors.............
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Post by jsmells on Mar 23, 2016 11:36:29 GMT -5
Star Wars re-re-re-re-re-re-releases stuff, and it's still going strong. It won't kill crap as long as there are A- Nerds and B- Nerds who like wrestling.
I think the best option is change SOMETHING. These aren't high-end collectibles where a straight up re-release is going to really effect it. I get it if these were highly detailed 1/6 scale figures that cost $150+. They're not. They're mass produced, and honestly slightly overpriced, toys.
So yeah, give someone another Cactus Jack, but give him different pants, shirt, accessories. Re-release Elite 12 Kane, but give us him with both arms sleeved (he had that look early on for a bit.) I don't use toys as a status symbol or overpay so I don't care. I think FULL ON re-releases are lazy, but I get the idea. Kill scalpers/flippers markets, give those who got in later or missed out a shot. Then you have to balance not ticking off those who already have it, so just make a small tweak.
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Post by legendsguy on Mar 23, 2016 11:43:30 GMT -5
repacks and repaints will kill it in due time. we dont get a surplus of new stars all the time so once you stop producing new stuff people lose interest rather quickly. GI Joe is about dead thanks in large part to repacks and repaints. SW wont die because a new movie comes out every 3 years ..lol... and thats not even in the same realm as wrestling. thats an iconic movie(s).
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Post by MR._SOCKO on Mar 23, 2016 11:49:36 GMT -5
I get why they would do it but I'm not a fan. I'd rather have a new figure of someone else while they're still under contract. I'd be annoyed if we were told we couldn't someone like Beefcake when so many spots were wasted on rereleases.
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Post by DestroyerOfNations on Mar 23, 2016 11:59:13 GMT -5
Maybe I'm biased since I got into the Mattel game after lines like Legends, Entrance Greats, and DM's were finished, but I'm fine with re-releases. I picked up most of those earlier figures on the secondary market with some crazy jacked up prices, L6 Warrior for $80 on eBay was the most expensive, so I'm happy for any collector who can pick up something they missed for decent prices. And if it comes in the form of a re-release that's even better.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2016 12:25:20 GMT -5
I think the ones that are truly upset about it, are the ones that are collecting for value. and saying "we can have a new 1st time in the line or someone else" Mattel has like 5 different elite related lines.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2016 12:32:51 GMT -5
I understand that parts sharing, repaints and re-releases are part of this hobby...but I definitely favor repaints over straight re-releases. Would I prefer new, original releases? Hell, yeah! But, if re-releases are going to happen, I'd rather they be changed up a bit. Allow newer collectors a chance to get a kevin nash, booker, jake, etc. for their collection, but don't completely alienate the people who were already on board and scored the now-hard-to-find figures when they were fresh on the pegs.
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Post by punksnotdead on Mar 23, 2016 12:47:08 GMT -5
Rereleases bad repaints good E12 Kane --> Two Sleeve Kane E13 Edge --> purple Edge E16 Diesel --> WM12 Diesel L1 Dusty --> NWA Dusty L3 Rock --> WM17 Rock L5 Savage --> WM3 Savage Nailed it. As long as Mattel isn't giving us a straight rerelease, fine. I'm not buying any of the new HOF wave but at least they're giving me a chance at getting a guy in a new attire.
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Post by Glorydaysofwrestling on Mar 23, 2016 12:49:04 GMT -5
If they have a different paint job it's fine (Booker T) but straight re-release figs suck. For the people saying oh you only think they suck because you want to sell your figures...definitely not the case. Those re-release figs are taking up a spot of a new character or a repaint of an older fig. I could give a crap about scalpers and selling like that.
And as for exclusives being re-released how is the figure an exclusive? Should we just stop trying to buy or track down exclusives now? Will they just be released again in the future? I'll just save more money with all these same figs coming out and I'm sure others are with me...and that my friends cannot be good for the line.
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Post by bosox3 on Mar 23, 2016 12:50:31 GMT -5
I don't mind it at all. Im not collecting for the someday I can cash in. I love being able to get the ones I missed out without being Fleeced by greedy people on ebay
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